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    John Kerry Accused Of Violating Logan Act After He Admits To Secret Iran Talks

    Though he previously denied it when allegations first surfaced last Spring, former Secretary of State John Kerry has now disclosed he's personally had semi-frequent face to face contact with top Iranian officials to discuss US-Iran relations since Trump entered office.
    Kerry confirmed and explained in detail his recent meetings with Iranian Former Minister Javad Zarif in an interview with radio host Hugh Hewitt to promote his new memoir, Every Day Is Extra.
    During the interview Kerry disclosed that he met with Zarif "three or four times" and discussed political issues and challenges between the United States and Iran in what could constitute a significant and clear violation of the Logan Act.


    Though it's almost never been enforced, the 1799 Logan Act states that unauthorized diplomacy with foreign powers by private American citizens is a crime. Notably, two Trump-connected individuals that prominent Liberals and editorials demanded be prosecuted under the Logan Act include former national security advisor Michael Flynn and Trump senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner.
    When asked point blank during the radio show about his rumored meetings with top Iran officials, Kerry admitted, "I think I've seen him three or four times," but attempted to claim he was not trying to "coach" Iran on how to navigate President Trump's pullout of the Iran nuclear deal.
    Kerry is of course now a private citizen out of government but holds significant clout and influence with the Iran FM as the two hammered out the details of the JCPOA brokered under President Obama in the first place.
    .⁦@JohnKerry⁩’s arrogance and repeated attempts to undermine this administration by salvaging the #IranDeal are striking. The deal was sold to Americans based on a pack of lies and deception. The President’s decision to withdraw was correct. https://t.co/QN3KQanmE1
    — Marsha Blackburn (@MarshaBlackburn) September 12, 2018
    However, by Kerry's own explanation it looks precisely like he was doing this: "What I have done is tried to elicit from him what Iran might be willing to do in order to change the dynamic in the Middle East for the better," Kerry said. He also shared his belief that American policy in the Middle East would be much better off if the White House had stayed in the agreement, and that the global community would be more stable and secure.


    It certainly appears that Kerry by his own admission is indeed trying to "coach" the Iranian FM on how to deal with the current White House. And the discussions clearly included chiding the Trump administration over its Iran policy while in Kerry's own words the "open[ing] of diplomatic channels" was on his mind.
    Meanwhile some Republican lawmakers have already, hours after the interview, unleashed charges that Kerry is engaged in rogue diplomacy and is undermining the active, elected administration.
    It was only a matter of time before he put his foot in his mouth, and promoting his new book means we're likely about to hear a lot more self implicating details spilled.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...mits-logan-act
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    How come they have been pretending for a year it didn't happen?

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    update: On Thursday night, after news of John Kerry's Wednesday Hugh Hewitt Show radio interview in which he admitted meeting with Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif "three or four times" since Donald Trump took office for unauthorized discussions touching on the Iran nuclear deal, President Trump slammed the "illegal meetings" as serving to "undercut" White House diplomatic dealings with Iran.
    Trump further hinted that Kerry violated the Logan Act by rhetorically asking whether Kerry is officially registered as a foreign agent.
    The president tweeted: John Kerry had illegal meetings with the very hostile Iranian Regime, which can only serve to undercut our great work to the detriment of the American people. He told them to wait out the Trump Administration! Was he registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act? BAD!
    John Kerry had illegal meetings with the very hostile Iranian Regime, which can only serve to undercut our great work to the detriment of the American people. He told them to wait out the Trump Administration! Was he registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act? BAD!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 14, 2018
    Multiple conservative commentators said Kerry finally admitted to prior charges that he was conducting secretive talks behind Trump's back aimed toward salvaging the 2015 nuclear deal.
    Later in the same day as the Hugh Hewitt Show admissions, former Secretary of State Kerry appeared on FOX and was interviewed by Dana Perino.
    "I think everybody in the world is sitting around talking about waiting out President Trump," Kerry said to Perino. "You've got our allies, remarkably the people that we've worked with the closest through the years who are sitting there saying, 'What's next?'" Kerry added.
    John Kerry on Syria, Iran deal, Democrats ahead of midterms https://t.co/DEtsIrgA7e
    — Afringrad (@primus123456789) September 13, 2018
    In reaction to the Dana Perino interview former Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer said on "Special Report" Kerry was likely advising Iran on how to "wait out" the tenure of President Trump.
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    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...mits-logan-act
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Trump must be thinking really hard about a successor in 2024(2020?! Hi @Aratus). He wants to be like Putin.

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    How many golden showers by the Iranian hookers?
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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    Last edited by timosman; 09-14-2018 at 08:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Trump must be thinking really hard about a successor in 2024(2020?! Hi @Aratus). He wants to be like Putin.
    What if he ends up sorta like Andrew Johnson by about five senators, or less?
    Seriously though, FLORENCE is either going to be compared to HARVEY or IRMA.
    If KATRINA instead is namedropped by GOP folks first, this is a very bad sign 4
    our POTUS. I think it is going to deluge the Carolinas, and DJT for once is about
    to really earn his salary. I am seriously praying for everyone due south of me...

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    Good for Kerry. Peace with Iran. Stop the Zionist agenda.



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    Does Trump have the authority to rescind the passport of an American citizen? If so, he should do just that, just for laughs.
    Last edited by specsaregood; 09-14-2018 at 12:44 PM.

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    Who says John Kerry is a US Citizen? The Logan Act applies to "US Citizens". I seriously doubt Kerry is a 14th Amendment US Citizen, by legal definition. Anyone that has been US SecState is very well aware of what a legal entity called a "US Citizen" is and how to NOT be one, so as to not be held liable for violations of US Code, like the Logan Act.
    Last edited by devil21; 09-14-2018 at 12:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Does Trump have the authority to rescind the passport of an American citizen? If so, he should do just that, just for laughs.
    The good folks around the Younger POTUS Bush once put Teddy Kennedy on the no-fly-list
    becuz he had this pattern of going back and forth between LOGAN up here & good ole D.C!

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    If the word inside Democrat circles is to "wait out" Trump, and some groups are going
    to try to go the distance in terms of impeachment, even if Pence is sworn in, what is he
    going to drastically change? The promise of returning things to what I'd call "normalcy
    normal" suggests what KERRY said to the Iranians is that they avoid all the baited lures
    that could flare WW3 for the NEXT two years. 2020 looms. Was he thinking that the GOP
    looses very badly in about two years? A better deal can be cut? In 1968, a woman who
    feverently backed Richard Nixon went to the North Veitnamese and said a better deal was
    possible. LBJ was furious. He felt undercut once again. DEMOCRATs = SIT & WAIT. Just sayin.

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