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Unfortunately, the person who posted a link to the spreadsheet containing nat'l com folks email addies no longer works for some reason.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/95122650/rn...mbers-2012.xls
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Here were the rules committee members at least, as of August, so there are some from each state: http://www.rlc.org/wordpress/wp-cont...ontactInfo.pdf
Note this from December, however, he had no challengers then that I recall:
And in a warning shot to any potential challengers, Priebus writes that he has the votes of more than 150 RNC members locked down. Only 85 votes are needed to win the chairmanship.
Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/politics/Re...#ixzz2HJDTUM00
Last edited by sailingaway; 01-07-2013 at 11:38 AM.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
It's important not to fall into the same traps we did before. I'm all for going against the establishment when it accomplishes something, but when over 90% of the people who are voting for the chairman are the establishment, this just isn't a winnable cause, and would just increase resistance against the few people we got elected to the committee positions.
Are 90% really with establishment? I don't know the battle lines here, but if we could make this a battle about Rule 15 with our guy proposing its repeal, .... well the vote on that sounded awfully even. Don't know how that would play in the 'RNC voting membership'
he could propose turning control of state delegation make up and control of rules changes back to the states.
If nothing else it would highlight the issue again and remind people who is on which side.
Last edited by sailingaway; 01-07-2013 at 01:25 PM.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
My guess is they, as a whole, relish the fact of stripping local delegates of their voting rights as we're the small fish in their pond. While we've made some inroads in getting decent people on the RNC, there's surely an old guard up there that sees the grassroots reasserting itself and likes this rule that nips us in the bud. Especially, if we take Reince's word that he has 150 henchmen that's got his back, I bet they also are supporters of this rule. I would've thought there'd be more attention given to this upcoming meeting by more conservative outlets to pressure for a change but haven't seen much and the media is in silent mode to boot.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Traps? What you're proposing IS a trap for ourselves. They already know who we are and they already know what we want.
One thing that I learned from my local county GOP meeting where we had great results is that you don't hide and do back room deals, and run the numbers to win. You run a real campaign, with real candidate, with a real team that believes in their real message.
Why do you think Mark Willis running for chair won't accomplish anything? How do you know Preibus has solid 90% support? Because he said so? lol!!!
Most of these people are just playing along to get a long, there is no other contender so of course they tell the 'leader' what he wants to hear.
How do you know there won't be votes against Preibus if there was a secret vote? It happens all the time.
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I hear what you're saying and am maintaining optimism about mounting a solid challenge against Pubus but I wouldn't be surprised if he won't allow a secret vote a la Boehner. However, I am hoping that these at large delegates see what's going on in the base of the party and realize their further support of the status quo could have them in some $#@! at their next state conventions when activists attempt to pull a coup on them.
AJ Spiker apparently just came out in support of Priebus. Don't know if he was aware there was a challenge.
http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/rep...3#comment-formFrom AJ Spiker, Iowa GOP Chairman
"As voting members of the Republican National Committee,
the state of Iowa offers its support for the re-election of
Reince Priebus.
Over the past year we have spoken with Reince regularly
and have been impressed with his attention to detail, fundraising
prowess and desire to help Iowa retain its "First in the Nation"
status in the Presidential Election process.
Though Reince inherited a situation that saw the RNC in
debt, donations down and confidence struggling, he turned the
Party around by cutting waste, limiting overhead and restarting
many of the fundraising programs that had fallen dormant.
Republicans must always hold themselves to a higher standard and
this requires our generous donors to trust us to use their
contributions wisely.
Reince has always been readily available to listen to our
concerns, answer questions and ensure we feel comfortable with
the direction of our Republican Party. We believe he has done a
superb job turning around a party that was in disarray and we
look forward to working with him in the future. Together we can
grow our party, engage grassroots activists and continue to
promote the conservative principles of our platform.
As voting members of the RNC, the Iowa delegation
supports Reince Priebus for Republican National Committee
Chairman and encourages members across the country to do the
same. We are excited at the possibilities the future holds and
look forward to Republican success in 2013 and beyond."
AJ Spiker - State Chairman
Steve Scheffler - National Committeeman
Tamara Scott - National Committeewoman
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
^^^ Yea, Preibus also said, for the record, that we didn't submit our paperwork in time to have Ron Paul officially nominated at the RNC.
& he lied.
Heres the thing, if AJ Spiker has already come out in support, it is almost impossible to expect him to publicly retract it. His credibility and his word is important right now, especially if he wants to be re-elected again for 2016.
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still, I wonder if when Spiker won, if that wasnt' the first call Priebus, who did know about the challenge, made...
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
We have to play the long game here. Priebus has the votes so it's pointless challenging him.
In the future Spiker might get a chance to be RNC head and then maybe we can undo all the sh&t they've done or maybe we can do it from the inside and influence him some way.
Just talked to Ben Swann, he is going to do a piece on Mark Willis.
Pretty cool!
p.s. he is a little more optimistic than some of you are being right now. lol
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I'm sure he is going to encounter some cost Do you think we should start a money bomb or chip in. He has airfare costs and other unforeseen.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Here is what I know.
he has 4 of the 6 written nominations, he needs 2 more from 1 other state to complete the 6.
Here is a list of States that have come in support of Chairman Priebus:
New Jersey - Including Gov. Christie
Iowa
New Hampshire
West Virginia
Minnesota
Washington
Conneticut
Puerto Rico
Oregon
Indiana
Pennsylvania
Arkansas
New York
Utah
Hawaii
New Mexico
Tennessee
Oklahoma
California
Colorado
Kentucky
Louisiana
Mississippi
Virginia
Wisconsin
This makes 75 votes.. not the 150 that Reince Priebus claims he has. We still need 2 RNC members from 1 state to secure the nomination for Mark Willis for RNC Chair. Get at it!
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"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Here's the DP link if those of you with accounts want to bump it: http://www.dailypaul.com/269097/this...e-nominated-he
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
If you see this message, email your state committeemen.
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I put the link provided by sailing in a google doc but I'm a little hesitant to make it fully public.
What do you guys think? Is their contact all public information anyways?
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I found it on the internet, myself. But saving the actual info in case the link goes down is probably a good idea.
Texas actually seems like a very good idea, particularly if our guy will give a strong statement against the rules that were passed. Texas hated them. I'm going to cross post these last threads into the Texas subforum so those subscribed there will get emails. We had a ton of Texas delegates.
Last edited by sailingaway; 01-08-2013 at 05:41 PM.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Thank you!
What I'm thinking tentatively, if others support it, is we make this about the rules change, and at least try to push changing them back. A TON disliked the rules change and it might get Willis more support. Meanwhile, those more establishment and worried about challenging Priebus might at least pressure him on the rules change. Then if we win, we win, and if we lose, Priebus might be under pressure to get the rules changed.
What do you think?
And what would Willis think since he is the one running?
Last edited by sailingaway; 01-08-2013 at 06:55 PM.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
I've sent an email out to most of the Missouri grassroots coordinators through out the State - I have a contact for Ed, but I'd like to get the input from those close to him and other activists through out the state about how to go about presenting this. Will keep updated as I continue.
good idea to test the waters, and thank you!
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
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