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Voting (i.e. legal robbery) inevitably leads to barbarity; it makes no difference in the end who's doing the voting.
However, in the current political situation, it is you, with your irrational hatred of all foreigners, who are the barbarians.
Cosmopolitanism is a sign of a high culture and civilization: provincialism, a sign of decline and collapse.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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It doesn't inevitably lead to anything and it makes an immense amount of difference who votes.
I have no irrational hatred of anyone and the communists are the barbarians, communism is just short of cannibalism in its barbarity.
You have that exactly backwards.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
No one claiming to be remotely informed can call $22trillion in national debt, with hundreds of trillions in unfunded liabilities, where every FRN in existence is created from debt and where none of us legally own anything simply because you can't pay a debt with more debt, to be "rich" and "prosperous". All that you view as "wealth" is debt and best believe that the creditors fully intend to collect on every last fiat penny of that debt. Immigrants that come here thinking that this is a "rich" country are ignorant of the reality of the situation. The funny part is that apparently you are no more educated to the reality than they are. It's a 3rd grade level education talking point, nothing more.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
That freedom may not become popular in my lifetime. That the takers outnumber the producers and that will not change in my lifetime. That we live in a militarized police state that will only get worse due to the latest fear tactics. That generations have and will continue to get robbed by people of greed. That government always has been, is, and always will be an oppressive violence on the human condition. That the only freedom I or any of you really have anymore is the freedom inside our own minds - and they want to get at that.
I guess I am just entering the last stages of grief for what was my God given liberties. My heart and spirit will always be free, but my body is tied to this earth. There is nothing new under the sun and I am alright with that. Tyranny ain't going anywhere, but neither will liberty. They belong together like hot and cold, light and dark, love and hate. Without one we could not recognize the other. We didn't fight to keep our liberty. I have high hopes that future generations will fight to get it back. The Yin and the Yang.
Also, not giving a rat's $#@! can be very liberating. Seeking pleasure is in itself not a pleasurable experience - likewise embracing pain can be quite comforting.
These days I choose to let others do the suffering for me....RPFs members do a great job of taking care of that. I want to maintain a fulfilled life and politics/politicians/programs haven't done a damn thing to fulfill me, ever. I maintain as an interested individual, but am done getting emotionally invested. RPFs has also helped show me the futility in that. How about you?
Now, I am not saying burn the motherfucker down, as I enjoy my comforts too. What I am saying is that I have my marshmallows ready, not my fire extinguisher. I am good with the future, even if the future will not be as it was in the past. The past kind of sucked anyway.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
There is an abundance of resources here that are relatively easy to access, that is all the immigrants know or care about and that is all I was talking about and all that matters as far as this subject is concerned.
If we ended welfare and restored liberty there would be more and truer prosperity and they would still come here and vote for socialism in order to easily access it.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
The Bastiat Collection · FREE PDF · FREE EPUB · PAPER Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)
- "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
-- The Law (p. 54)- "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
-- Government (p. 99)- "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
-- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)- "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
-- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)· tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·
If the definition of "liberty" you have cited is supposed to be a "more accurate" one for Swordsmyth's "new playbook", then I am failing to see how it undercuts his claim that liberty is exclusive of "the freedom to engage in tyranny". If anything, entry 1c from your citation rather seems to support that claim. (And note that this is so regardless of whether or not you agree with the position in support of which Swordsmyth made that claim - i.e., regardless of whether or not you think Swordsmyth is completely full of $#@! about immigration.)
This is (yet another) perfect illustration of why it is silly and pointless to play the "dueling dictionaries" game for anything other than resolving disputes over etymology or colloquial usage. They really need to assign a new category of informal fallacy for this kind of thing: call it argumentum ad vocabulum ...
Last edited by Occam's Banana; 02-13-2019 at 02:51 PM.
The Bastiat Collection · FREE PDF · FREE EPUB · PAPER Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)
- "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
-- The Law (p. 54)- "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
-- Government (p. 99)- "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
-- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)- "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
-- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)· tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·
Thanks for the correction! I suppose that which post it was had gotten lost in the shuffle among pages and pages of trumpette drivel, and I was looking at the wrong post. My bad, and apologies to AF for saying that he scrubbed the post, when he didn't! At least he's standing behind those words.
I have an autographed copy of Revolution: A Manifesto for sale. Mint condition, inquire within. (I don't sign in often, so please allow plenty of time for a response)
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