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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    Long gone are the days of Ron Paul types on the courts.
    When pray tell were those days???



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    Quote Originally Posted by QFraud View Post
    When pray tell were those days???
    While not perfect, the 19th Century was pretty good.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ligant View Post
    Gorsuch was CFR member, how can you say that he was good on paper?
    ^^^
    This is the exact reason why libertarians will never win, anything, ever.

    Purity is also the same reason why BLM is hurting Democrats in the polls. They started off with extremely high approvals but couldn't exercise any self-control and made it about marxist ideology, joined with ANTIFA and destroyed their own movement. Libertarians shoot themselves in the foot in the same way, every single time.

    Apparently the same so called libertarians are so pure in their beliefs that they also support the neocons in their full on 4 year war against someone who is consistently against war, MIC, deep state, in rhetoric and action

    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    Kavanaugh has been reliably conservative. Much more so than I ever thought.

    Gorsuch has been there for almost four years and with a handful of exceptions has also been reliable conservative.
    Yeaaaa but they're not good enough so lets just attack them and complain about RBG being gone, seems like the better plan.
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  6. #34
    Can't they just appoint a regular judge and add some sour cream?

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    ^^^
    This is the exact reason why libertarians will never win, anything, ever.

    Purity is also the same reason why BLM is hurting Democrats in the polls. They started off with extremely high approvals but couldn't exercise any self-control and made it about marxist ideology, joined with ANTIFA and destroyed their own movement. Libertarians shoot themselves in the foot in the same way, every single time.

    Apparently the same so called libertarians are so pure in their beliefs that they also support the neocons in their full on 4 year war against someone who is consistently against war, MIC, deep state, in rhetoric and action



    Yeaaaa but they're not good enough so lets just attack them and complain about RBG being gone, seems like the better plan.
    This

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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Interesting point from Ted Cruz:


    https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/statu...10787992719360
    Uh huh. We had a 4-4 Court 9 months before the 2016 election but I don't recall Cruz demanding that Merrick Garland or any other nominee get a hearing, much less a vote. It appears McConnell isn't the only hypocrite in the Senate.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Uh huh. We had a 4-4 Court 9 months before the 2016 election but I don't recall Cruz demanding that Merrick Garland or any other nominee get a hearing, much less a vote. It appears McConnell isn't the only hypocrite in the Senate.
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status...17940686450698
    Cruz most likely wants to run for president again, so I don't see him being picked as Trump nominee.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Uh huh. We had a 4-4 Court 9 months before the 2016 election but I don't recall Cruz demanding that Merrick Garland or any other nominee get a hearing, much less a vote. It appears McConnell isn't the only hypocrite in the Senate.
    Yeah. Every Democrat also is. No shortage of Democrat quotes talking about what a miscarriage it is to not confirm Garland. Same people don't want an appointment for Ginsberg.

    Elections have consequences. Not confirming a Ginsberg replacement is probably more ridiculous than not confirming Garland. Ginsberg had no business being on the Supreme Court the last few years because of her declining physical and mental health. She shouldn't be rewarded for her bad behavior in not retiring. She thought Hillary was a lock to win. She made a bad bet and lost. Time for Trump to confirm someone.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    Yeah, right. Like there is anyone he could nominate that would actually lead the Orange man to winning the election. There are no votes to pick up with a nomination. True chartreuse constitutionalists aren't going to change their mail-in ballot from Jorgensen or Blankenship for orangie porngie.

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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Uh huh. We had a 4-4 Court 9 months before the 2016 election but I don't recall Cruz demanding that Merrick Garland or any other nominee get a hearing, much less a vote. It appears McConnell isn't the only hypocrite in the Senate.
    Why are there still people who don't understand the logic? Obama and Senate were different parties during the election year. This time its the same party. Thats the entire point of why a president chooses to nominate and the senate can choose to confirm or not.
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Why are there still people who don't understand the logic? Obama and Senate were different parties during the election year. This time its the same party. Thats the entire point of why a president chooses to nominate and the senate can choose to confirm or not.
    Don't bring logic into this, you are spoiling the "there's not a dime's worth of difference" high.
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  17. #44
    My choice is Dan Griffith.







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  18. #45
    An interesting option that the left would have a hard time attacking, a Cuban American.

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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Why are there still people who don't understand the logic? Obama and Senate were different parties during the election year. This time its the same party. Thats the entire point of why a president chooses to nominate and the senate can choose to confirm or not.
    No one's disputing the Senate's authority to confirm. I was merely pointing out the gross hypocrisy of McConnell and other Trump enablers. McConnell's statements in 2016 weren't based on the fact that the presidency and senate were of different parties -- he and other GOP Senators argued that the voters should have a say.

    McConnell: "The American people are perfectly capable of having their say on this issue, so let's give them a voice. Let's let the American people decide. The Senate will appropriately revisit the matter when it considers the qualifications of the nominee the next president nominates, whoever that might be."

    Grassley: "A majority of the Senate has decided to fulfill its constitutional role of advice and consent by withholding support for the nomination during a presidential election year, with millions of votes having been cast in highly charged contests. As Vice President Biden previously said, it's a political cauldron to avoid."

    Cornyn: "At this critical juncture in our nation's history, Texans and the American people deserve to have a say in the selection of the next lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. The only way to empower the American people and ensure they have a voice is for the next President to make the nomination to fill this vacancy."[quote]

    Cornyn also said the following on the Senate floor: "It’s only a matter of fundamental fairness to apply the same rules to the same situation, no matter who’s in the majority or who’s in the minority,” Cornyn argued on the Senate floor on March 17, 2016.

    Then there's Lindsey Graham, arguably the biggest hypocrite, who said in 2016, "I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."
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  21. #48
    To be human is to be a hypocrite. I for one look forward to the day of our computer overlords with humans becoming mere batteries for silicon sentience.



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    Latest reporting suggests that if Prez Trump altered gender diversity and did not pick a woman, alternate would most likely boost ethnic diversity along the lines of Biden's "First South Asian VP pick in history, Kamala Harris' diversity play that in the past has raised question about big money role in judicial picks.

    Trump's shortlist down to 4 Supreme Court nominees, sources tell ABC News
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    From left to right: Amul Thapar, Amy Coney Barrett and Barbara Lagoa.


  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    No one's disputing the Senate's authority to confirm. I was merely pointing out the gross hypocrisy of McConnell and other Trump enablers. McConnell's statements in 2016 weren't based on the fact that the presidency and senate were of different parties -- he and other GOP Senators argued that the voters should have a say.

    McConnell: "The American people are perfectly capable of having their say on this issue, so let's give them a voice. Let's let the American people decide. The Senate will appropriately revisit the matter when it considers the qualifications of the nominee the next president nominates, whoever that might be."

    Grassley: "A majority of the Senate has decided to fulfill its constitutional role of advice and consent by withholding support for the nomination during a presidential election year, with millions of votes having been cast in highly charged contests. As Vice President Biden previously said, it's a political cauldron to avoid."

    Cornyn: "At this critical juncture in our nation's history, Texans and the American people deserve to have a say in the selection of the next lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. The only way to empower the American people and ensure they have a voice is for the next President to make the nomination to fill this vacancy."

    Cornyn also said the following on the Senate floor: "It’s only a matter of fundamental fairness to apply the same rules to the same situation, no matter who’s in the majority or who’s in the minority,” Cornyn argued on the Senate floor on March 17, 2016.

    Then there's Lindsey Graham, arguably the biggest hypocrite, who said in 2016, "I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."
    The only reason the voters were an issue is because they had not made their will clearly known in past elections, they had elected a leftist POTUS and a right wing Senate.

    The voters made their will clear in this cycle by giving us a Republican POTUS and a Republican Senate to handle any vacancies that occurred in this period.

    There is no hypocrisy.
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    What occurred to me right away was that they could delay Ginsberg's actual burial for weeks, to prevent Trump from naming a nominee. He could derail that by appointing someone now.
    I think I heard he is going to nominate someone this week and that they will be a woman. For sure he will nominate a woman.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The only reason the voters were an issue is because they had not made their will clearly known in past elections, they had elected a leftist POTUS and a right wing Senate.

    The voters made their will clear in this cycle by giving us a Republican POTUS and a Republican Senate to handle any vacancies that occurred in this period.

    There is no hypocrisy.
    Of course there is. Read again what Cornyn and Graham said, especially Graham, who described exactly the situation we're currently in.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlue33 View Post
    An interesting option that the left would have a hard time attacking, a Cuban American.
    EM.

    LOL

    Left's attacks on cuban-american political opponents have been so harsh that some might not be even fit to be printed in history books.

    In this recent example, both honorable figures are minorities and guy depicted in blue suit is Cuban American :


    Another Cuban American Rafael Ted Cruz faced horrific attacks during 2016 election primary season from his political opponent (even if not hardcore Left). Many these days seem to think everything is fair in love, war and politics.
    Or perhaps it's been always the case, left's attacks on another minority SCOTUS pick Clarence Thomas probably also cannot be repeated in history books.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Amy Coney Barrett was one of the top choices last time so I assume she's still in the running or first choice this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    Anyone know much about her? All I see are fluff pieces about her gender and religion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    If somebody can give me a list that summarizes all the good rulings Amy Coney Barrett has made, it would be greatly appreciated.
    It would be good to know more about her. A one issue Supreme Court nomination would be very bad. Everything I hear about her revolves around abortion, nothing about anything else. We don't need another Roberts in there.
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Merely "getting someone better than RGB" is not the threshold for quality here.... the threshold and metric should be "how in line are they with the Constitution?"
    The Senate has to approve it.
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  32. #57
    That Pennsylvania judge that recently said that the governors lock down of the state was unconstitutional would be a pretty good choice.
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    Brian4Liberty,

    I do find in interesting that RBG has not shown up yet on the funeral list for Arlington National Cemetery. I have checked each day. Might be done today but not on this weeks list.

    https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Fu...neral-Schedule

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  35. #60
    It’s not hypocrisy, it’s strategy. The Democrats would have done the same thing.

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