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    Pentagon fails its first ever audit

    #notsurprised
    Pentagon fails its first-ever audit, official says

    Idrees Ali, Mike Stone


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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon has failed what is being called its first-ever comprehensive audit, a senior official said on Thursday, finding U.S. Defense Department accounting discrepancies that could take years to resolve.

    The Pentagon in Washington, U.S., is seen from aboard Air Force One, March 29, 2018. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas - RC125AF3E6D0



    Results of the inspection - conducted by some 1,200 auditors and examining financial accounting on a wide range of spending including on weapons systems, military personnel and property - were expected to be completed later in the day.
    “We failed the audit, but we never expected to pass it,” Deputy Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan told reporters, adding that the findings showed the need for greater discipline in financial matters within the Pentagon.
    “It was an audit on a $2.7 trillion dollar organization, so the fact that we did the audit is substantial,” Shanahan added.

    The U.S. defense budget for the 2018 fiscal year that ended on Sept. 30 was about $700 billion. The Pentagon is a huge agency with multiple branches of the military, costly weapons systems, large personnel needs, numerous military bases of various sizes at home and abroad and troops deployed in far-flung locales.

    Shanahan said areas the Pentagon must improve upon based on the audit results include compliance with cybersecurity policies and improving inventory accuracy. In a briefing with reporters, he did not provide a figure detailing how much money was unaccounted for in the audit.
    It was unclear what consequences there would be after the audit, but Shanahan said the focus would be on fixing the issues.
    “We need to develop our plans to address the findings and actually put corrective actions in place,” Shanahan said.
    “Some of the compliance issues are irritating to me. ... The point of the audit is to drive better discipline in our compliance with our management systems and procedures,” Shanahan added.

    A 1990 federal law mandated that U.S. government agencies be audited, but the Pentagon had not faced a comprehensive audit until this one was launched in December.
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    Defense officials and outside experts have said it may be years before the Pentagon is able to fix its accounting gaps and errors and pass an audit.
    “To clarify, the audit is not a ‘pass-fail’ process. We did not receive an ‘adverse’ finding - the lowest possible category - in any area,” U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Joseph Buccino, a Pentagon spokesman, said in an email.

    “We did receive findings of ‘disclaimer’ in multiple areas. Clearly more work lies ahead of us,” Buccino added.














    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon has failed what is being called its first-ever comprehensive audit, a senior official said on Thursday, finding U.S. Defense Department accounting discrepancies that could take years to resolve.




    The Pentagon in Washington, U.S., is seen from aboard Air Force One, March 29, 2018. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas - RC125AF3E6D0


    Results of the inspection - conducted by some 1,200 auditors and examining financial accounting on a wide range of spending including on weapons systems, military personnel and property - were expected to be completed later in the day.
    “We failed the audit, but we never expected to pass it,” Deputy Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan told reporters, adding that the findings showed the need for greater discipline in financial matters within the Pentagon.
    “It was an audit on a $2.7 trillion dollar organization, so the fact that we did the audit is substantial,” Shanahan added.
    The U.S. defense budget for the 2018 fiscal year that ended on Sept. 30 was about $700 billion. The Pentagon is a huge agency with multiple branches of the military, costly weapons systems, large personnel needs, numerous military bases of various sizes at home and abroad and troops deployed in far-flung locales.
    Shanahan said areas the Pentagon must improve upon based on the audit results include compliance with cybersecurity policies and improving inventory accuracy. In a briefing with reporters, he did not provide a figure detailing how much money was unaccounted for in the audit.
    It was unclear what consequences there would be after the audit, but Shanahan said the focus would be on fixing the issues.
    “We need to develop our plans to address the findings and actually put corrective actions in place,” Shanahan said.
    “Some of the compliance issues are irritating to me. ... The point of the audit is to drive better discipline in our compliance with our management systems and procedures,” Shanahan added.
    A 1990 federal law mandated that U.S. government agencies be audited, but the Pentagon had not faced a comprehensive audit until this one was launched in December.
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    Downsize it.
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  4. #3
    Good that there is an audit .
    Do something Danke

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    finding U.S. Defense Department accounting discrepancies that could take years to resolve.
    Sounds like they need a bigger budget to hire more accountants, to prevent this problem in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Sounds like they need a bigger budget to hire more accountants, to prevent this problem in the future.
    They should just offer @oyarde 10% of any money he finds, he'd have it all cleared up inside a year.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Good that there is an audit .
    It's just a waste of money. They're spending money to figure out where money was spent.

    I can tell you right now where it was spent: defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They should just offer @oyarde 10% of any money he finds, he'd have it all cleared up inside a year.
    Easy Peasy , be running like a well oiled machine with an efficiency model to be envied worldwide .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    #notsurprised
    #no$#@!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Downsize it.
    I think that 3 hours is the longest you've ever gone without contradicting yourself. Congratulations!

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Having a large military hanging around is bad too............................................... .......................Unless you are in the middle of a defensive war.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Pentagon fails its first ever audit
    Don't worry they'll be plenty of chances to fail more audits.

    All this means, obviously, is that the Pentagon just needs more money.
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  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I think that 3 hours is the longest you've ever gone without contradicting yourself. Congratulations!
    We are in the middle of a defensive war?

    Tell us about it.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    I don't see any reductions, all you people will need to change the way you live. And may be the western world will to in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I don't see any reductions, all you people will need to change the way you live. And may be the western world will to in general.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    There won't be, if America scales back, then personnel just sit on the border doing little else. "No president" one called out in 2011 when Ron Paul was trying to gain support and answering a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    There won't be, if America scales back, then personnel just sit on the border doing little else. "No president" one called out in 2011 when Ron Paul was trying to gain support and answering a question.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    You can deny it, and that is what you are doing. Like stating that are web use doesn't cause pollution, when it does.

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    You can deny it, and that is what you are doing. Like stating that are web use doesn't cause pollution, when it does.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I don't see any reductions, all you people will need to change the way you live. And may be the western world will to in general.
    My personal military is very lean . Every round is accounted for .
    Do something Danke

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    Americans to love their myths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Americans to love their myths.
    Projection.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  25. #22
    @Swordsmyth is factually correct on this one. The third world is a bigger polluter than the industrialized world, even if you believe in whatever climate conspiracy is in vogue today.
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    As the conspiracy theory goes... the last time trillions of dollars was publicly unaccounted for, a plane flew into the pentagon the next day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I don't see any reductions, all you people will need to change the way you live. And may be the western world will to in general.
    "you people"?

    Get a job you leech.
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Republicanguy again.
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  30. #26
    Pentagon failed their first audit? Shocking.
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  31. #27
    You mean they actually allowed an audit???




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  32. #28
    You can chose to deny facts, as many on here do, but you are the minority. Claim to belief in a higher power, denounce the left wing liberals, as lazy bastards, and bitches who don't want to work, and have no healthcare, and deserve nothing, and morally bankrupt, and so on. And then have a cheek about life, so long as people follow the beliefs you do.

    That isn't a sustainable future, any more than the UN universal human rights declaration that everyone can have a family, or more right to procreate. There are limits.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    There are limits.
    You have no say in what they are..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    It's all about Freedom

  34. #30
    Well nobody has a say, but the point being about the UN right on family is, there is a limit to our environment, so a population of many billion has its affect on our home planet, we don't have the Moon or Mars to go to, there is no interest for anyone or a company to go there, other than NASA doing some exploring.

    Unless may be in a few centuries time it could be possible to travel somewhere to an Earth size world, that could support human life. That is unlikely, traveling that far that is.

    Life is often full of pressure, dominance, and selfishness. So neither individual can exist in a communist society or a libertarian society, it is a mix.

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