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Thread: LP Candidate in NC: Ron Paul embraces Trump and fascism

  1. #31
    Is Haugh actually running in 2020? I can't find anything claiming he's a candidate for any office at this time and there is no "special election" for the US Senate in 2020. A standard election, yes, but no special election. CORRECTION ETA: He's a candidate for NC House but not US Senate.

    In other words, this looks like the random thoughts of a random state office candidate and only posted to stir up anti-LP sentiment. Aka trolling. Why ya trollin' AF?
    Last edited by devil21; 06-07-2020 at 10:32 AM.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Is Haugh actually running in 2020? I can't find anything claiming he's a candidate for any office at this time and there is no "special election" for the US Senate in 2020. A standard election, yes, but no special election. CORRECTION ETA: He's a candidate for NC House but not US Senate.

    In other words, this looks like the random thoughts of a random state office candidate and only posted to stir up anti-LP sentiment. Aka trolling. Why ya trollin' AF?
    sean haugh
    @EmperorSean
    Libertarian for US Senate in North Carolina in 2020, special election. Also still running for NC House, District 31.
    I'm going by what he said.

    Nothing more than a public service message.

    I think people should know, if they are planning to support this man, that he thinks RP is embracing fascism.

    I'd call out this leftarian POS just as quickly as I would an honest leftist.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 06-07-2020 at 10:38 AM.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I'm going by what he said.

    Nothing more than a public service message.

    I think people should know, if they are planning to support this man, that he thinks RP is embracing fascism.

    I'd call out this leftarian POS just as quickly as I would an honest leftist.
    Perhaps he is anticipating Burr stepping down over the insider stock sales stuff. Still, it's pretty weak to post the Twitter thoughts of some non-serious candidate as being indicative of anything, like he's a standard bearer or something. His NC House campaign committee is named "HI COLIN I HOPE YOU ARE WELL SEAN" ffs.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Thanks AF!
    I attacked him on Twitter & he blocked me Tom Woods & other Ron Paul supporters.

    This Guy BTW supports Obamacare!
    I didn't even attack him and he blocked me. He refused to respond to any reasonable questions. He is a coward. He continues to attack Tom Woods, the Libertarian Mises Caucus, etc. and blocks them so they can't see what he is up to.

    You’re blocked
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    If you look at his tweets and retweets, he is a full-on social justice warrior, supports Antifa, believes that the US is filled with "murdering Nazis", etc.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  7. #35
    @EmperorSean?

    The LP is fielding candidates for emperor now?
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    Screw that guy. He wouldn't stand a chance without Ron Paul supporters.
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Sounds like intentional trolling to gain support and followers from moderates/left. I did not know who this guy, now I do.
    The guy has been discussed and promoted here in the past.

    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Apparently he talked to a couple LP members who were activists for Sean Haugh, the beer-drinking LP candidate for Senate, and that couple of people said they liked Warren. That (in his mind) somehow translated into "Libertarians love Elizabeth Warren."
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'm with AF. I'm an anti-voter agnostic. I went to the polls on the way home from work. Meh, it was on the way. I'm in N.C. Voted for Sean Haugh (L) for Senate. In an editorial today I read, and will have to paraphrase, a Dem that was bent. Basically, she said that Hagan would have won over Tillis if the 3.75% of the people that voted for Haugh took the time to understnd politics. Lol. Sorry, deary, I'm pretty sure that those 3.75% knew exactly what they were voting for.
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    What's funny is that I know a few libertarians who aren't voting for Haugh. So a good portion of his votes are in pure protest.

    (My pure anecdotal opinion.)
    Sean Haugh for US Senate - video production by ladyjade3!

    Seems that he was more than happy to utilize (grift?) Ron Paul supporters when it served his purposes.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Seems that he was more than happy to utilize (grift?) Ron Paul supporters when it served his purposes.
    BOOM! Goes the dynamite!

    Grifting seems to go hand in hand with too many "liberty advocates" over the years.

    I know I've been burned once, and I reckon just about every honest person here got suckered into writing a check or donating resources to some scumbag who had no interest at all in advancing the cause but was just looking for a fast buck.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  10. #38
    A large part of Big L is made up of useful idiot freaks and losers, cultural left appeasers desperate not to be seen as one of the baddie Republicans but not ready to full on embrace communism. Ron Paul was a great man for being principled and always consistent in his beliefs but there is a sad truth to the idea that it was the cult of personality around him that appealed more than a genuine belief in liberty although a lot also born out of a shared opposition to the Iraq War that no longer unites us. Ron Paul's movement took a lot of the sane & pragmatic thinking libertarians into the GOP camp which brought us the Tea Party and yes eventually Trump who of course is not a libertarian at all but did smash the Trotskyite neocon establishment, some of the more idealistic Ron Paul supporters who supported him simply because he was an "honest politician" and outsider drifted into the Bernie Sanders camp who also of course is anything but a libertarian.

    I think a lot has been accomplished by working thru the GOP, there is at least a seat at the table which is far more than the game of paddy cake and naked dancing fat men that Big L is all about.
    Last edited by jkob; 06-07-2020 at 04:42 PM.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Ron Paul was able to do what he did because he was a man of making friends, building coalitions and finding common ground while being able to disagree when he had to.

    This idiot Sean who is attacking Ron Paul reminds me of many left libertarians [Edit]. Closed minded, tent narrowing, purists.

    [Edit]
    Remember debating with lefty friends that said Ron Paul was racist because of the whole news letter thing from last century, then I go on about how the Democratic party was racist, and they said "Parties and people change" Well you don't say
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    Remember debating with lefty friends that said Ron Paul was racist because of the whole news letter thing from last century, then I go on about how the Democratic party was racist, and they said "Parties and people change" Well you don't say
    I'd dare say that there is a faction of the Libertarian Party that has assumed that they have achieved critical mass to come out in the open. They are attempting a purge.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  14. #41
    The Libertarian Party just can't seem to stop making a spectacle of themselves.

    "The Patriarch"

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    $#@! the LP and a bunch of Leftarians.
    Gtanted Trump also used to identify as a Dem/ Left and funded numerous leftist progressive socialists, modern breed to left wing cons is out of control.


    And his 'embrace' claim is obviously fakenews. Views like this and consitent criticism of interventionist neocons like the ones funding GOP-Adelson/Trump 2016 is far from "embrace" even if there has been some common ground found on some issues off and on to try and nudge GOPA leader in a better direction.

    Neocons Hijack Trump’s Syria Policy
    written by ron paul monday october 30, 2017


    https://youtu.be/MEIAH_Kpfzk

  16. #43
    This person takes Ron Paul to task, then sides with antifa and BLM. What a ridiculous creature. Ron Paul is insufficiently libertarian but $#@!ing antifa is an ally.

    This antifa:


    $#@! the LP it's been a dead party for decades.
    NeoReactionary. American High Tory.

    The counter-revolution will not be televised.

  17. #44

    https://www.twitter.com/EmperorSean/...39943540436992
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  18. #45
    A “Libertarian” candidate that supports shutdowns...


    https://www.twitter.com/EmperorSean/...20272867037184
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    A “Libertarian” candidate that supports shutdowns...


    https://www.twitter.com/EmperorSean/...20272867037184
    Tell you the honest truth?

    I can think of nothing better to happen for a whole generation of kids than to be shut out of the government indoctrination centers.

    Please "$#@!ter" that to this Emperor Sean fellow...I'm curious as to what he'd say.

    ETA - Disregard, I see he blocked you.

    (And why are all these nobodies calling themselves King this and Emperor that and Charlemagne the other?)
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 07-14-2020 at 07:44 PM.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    BOOM! Goes the dynamite!

    Grifting seems to go hand in hand with too many "liberty advocates" over the years.

    I know I've been burned once, and I reckon just about every honest person here got suckered into writing a check or donating resources to some scumbag who had no interest at all in advancing the cause but was just looking for a fast buck.
    Most libertarians are grifters from what I see . We all gotta be good at something I've found what they excel at
    Last edited by oyarde; 07-14-2020 at 07:41 PM.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Tell you the honest truth?

    I can think of nothing better to happen for a whole generation of kids than to be shut out of the government indoctrination centers.

    Please "$#@!ter" that to this Emperor Sean fellow...I'm curious as to what he'd say.

    ETA - Disregard, I see he blocked you.

    (And why are all these nobodies calling themselves King this and Emperor that and Charlemagne the other?)
    There is a big positive to shutting down government leftist indoctrination centers. An even bigger bonus would be to defund them, instead of entitled bureaucrats and unionized teachers doing nothing and getting paid for it.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  23. #49
    Why give an obviously unserious candidate a platform? He's a nobody.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    There is a big positive to shutting down government leftist indoctrination centers. An even bigger bonus would be to defund them, instead of entitled bureaucrats and unionized teachers doing nothing and getting paid for it.
    Defund Schools!

    I've never used one as an adult, every child of mine were totally homeschooled and all are productive adults now.

    I'm told I still must pay for government indoctrination centers because "social contract" or some such rubbish.

    Well, regardless, government has failed to live up to its end of the bargain.

    I want a refund of property taxes.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Why give an obviously unserious candidate a platform? He's a nobody.
    The LP presidential candidate has openly stated her support for a Marxist terrorist group.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The LP presidential candidate has openly stated her support for a Marxist terrorist group.
    Relevant to a nobody state House candidate how, exactly? A couple of people speak for hundreds of thousands of others? That's as collectivist as it gets and certainly is not a libertarian mindset in the first place.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Why give an obviously unserious candidate a platform? He's a nobody.
    Because he was supported in the past on this forum.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Because he was supported in the past on this forum.
    So giving him more exposure now is the answer? I prefer to ignore people that are wastes of time and resources instead of giving them more publicity.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    So giving him more exposure now is the answer? I prefer to ignore people that are wastes of time and resources instead of giving them more publicity.
    Well the benefit of exposure is to expose (Tom Woods does this kind of stuff often) - someone living in NC who would normally support an LP candidate now knows not to support this guy, can counter by writing things saying that dude is not a good representation of libertarianism (fvckin' Libertarians for Trump...), or at most only give that guy a protest vote

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Relevant to a nobody state House candidate how, exactly? A couple of people speak for hundreds of thousands of others? That's as collectivist as it gets and certainly is not a libertarian mindset in the first place.
    From a nobody candidate to the presidential nominee, to the ex-Paulites who are now Bernie Bros, the willingness to embrace Marxist terrorists indicates a fairly large swath of support for Marxism within the LP and supports the claim that I have been making that many of the "Movementarians" from years back to today, had no interest whatsoever in advancing liberty and limited government and individual rights, but just wanted to smash $#@! for the sake of smashing $#@!.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Because he was supported in the past on this forum.
    Yes, and that too.

    Grifting leftarians should be exposed.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    From a nobody candidate to the presidential nominee, to the ex-Paulites who are now Bernie Bros, the willingness to embrace Marxist terrorists indicates a fairly large swath of support for Marxism within the LP and supports the claim that I have been making that many of the "Movementarians" from years back to today, had no interest whatsoever in advancing liberty and limited government and individual rights, but just wanted to smash $#@! for the sake of smashing $#@!.
    And they are here, on this site and in this thread.
    But at least some of them don't just want to smash things, they want to smash things to make room for communism.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, and that too.

    Grifting leftarians should be exposed.
    ALL parties should be exposed.

    Individualism is the new trend, we have no need or use for the state, or the parties involved.


    Signed,

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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    ALL parties should be exposed.

    Individualism is the new trend, we have no need or use for the state, or the parties involved.


    Signed,

    Proud to be an Agorist.

    Here's an example of wildly successful policing, WITHOUT government police, in an American city RIGHT NOW:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...er-is-On-Point
    Chris

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    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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