FSP & Age of Consent - split thread

[Origanalist]

You can really get some valuable information on RPFs.

OK dannno.

[HVACTech]

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And a sizeable chunk of those millions are Constittuionalists of some sort or another. SMH.

source?

[Feeding the Abscess]

Yes, there are statements to this effect floating around Facebook (and other websites).

To Christian Liberty's point, Ian Freeman said that if a parent of the 6 year old decided to retaliate against the person who [insert sexual activity with 6 year old here], that that was also 'none of his business'.

[angelatc]

Actually, in Germany the full AOC for all sexual activity is eighteen.

Uh, it's actually 14.

The age of consent in Germany is 14, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination, in which case a conviction of an individual over the age of 21 requires a complaint from the younger individual; being over 21 and engaging in sexual relations with a minor of that age does not constitute an offense by itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_o...Europe#Germany

Which sort of supports what my German friend said about the male teacher pursuing the 15 year old student .... they didn't consider it a big deal and were sort of baffled about why it was all over the newspapers in our town.

I'm one of the reasons we can't have nice things, I guess. I'm certainly not going to lobby for sexual freedom, but there's a difference between pre and post-pubescent. A 6 year old is not sexually mature in any definition of the word, but a 14 year old female usually is.

[FSP-Rebel]

Seriously tho, what happened here?

[Rothbardian Girl]

Uh, it's actually 14.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_o...Europe#Germany

Which sort of supports what my German friend said about the male teacher pursuing the 15 year old student .... they didn't consider it a big deal and were sort of baffled about why it was all over the newspapers in our town.

...You misread/are selectively reading my comment, and Wikipedia isn't the best source. There are three "tiers" for AOC in Germany.

14 years old - may have sex with other youths under age 18.

16 years old - may have sex with adults of any age, provided these adults aren't in a position of temporary or legal guardianship and/or aren't gifting the teenager with money, favors, etc.

18 - full "legalization" (allowed to work as a prostitute or in porn).

Where things become confusing is this: if the 14-year old is in a relationship with an 18-21 year old, the adult is not automatically guilty of statutory rape as he/she would be in the US. The German authorities only become involved if a complaint is filed by either the minor or their guardians. If the guardians file a report and the minor objects to this report (claims it was consensual), the outcome of the report hinges on whether the minor is found to be psychologically mature enough. If that is indeed the case, then the judge will typically side with the minor. However, a judge may decide differently if the adult is not 21 but rather 30-40. (Which, incidentally, is the scenario I am railing against in this topic. All of these FSP degenerates are in their 30s.) In other words, it's culturally frowned upon for adults to chase kids, but there isn't automatic hand-wringing at a 14 and an 18-19 year old being involved with each other, like there would likely be in the US.

The German penal code is available online in English if you google it.

[tod evans]

Has anyone actually said that it should be legal to have sex with a 6 year old, or is this just a massive strawman? So far I havent seen anyone say it. Tod Evans seems to think the solution is effectively vigilantism, which I don't think is the ideal or moral solution, but that's still not the same thing as putting up with it.

I'm of the opinion that federal money and the goons it buys should not be involved in any criminal prosecutions.

Your reading of that opinion as vigilantism is wrong both in theory and on its face.

Federal monies have permitted the entire legal system to be corrupted, a minimal amount of study should lead you to the same conclusion.

[osan]

FSP, the supporters of having sex with children, as young as 6, maybe younger, not exactly my type of society.

Where'd you read/hear this? I cannot imagine too many free staters being on board with this.

[pcosmar]

A 6 year old is not sexually mature in any definition of the word, but a 14 year old female usually is.

And yet,,continually when a young adult (Teen) is having sex it is referred to as Pedophilia even in these forums.

and any and all discussion devolves from that point.

AGE OF CONSENT LAWS ARE BOTH UNNECESSARY AND RIDICULOUS.

Removing Pedophiles when found should be a case of Justifiable homicide.

Punishing people for having normal sex is not the role of government.

[angelatc]

...You misread/are selectively reading my comment, and Wikipedia isn't the best source. There are three "tiers" for AOC in Germany.

14 years old - may have sex with other youths under age 18.

16 years old - may have sex with adults of any age, provided these adults aren't in a position of temporary or legal guardianship and/or aren't gifting the teenager with money, favors, etc.

18 - full "legalization" (allowed to work as a prostitute or in porn).

Where things become confusing is this: if the 14-year old is in a relationship with an 18-21 year old, the adult is not automatically guilty of statutory rape as he/she would be in the US. The German authorities only become involved if a complaint is filed by either the minor or their guardians. If the guardians file a report and the minor objects to this report (claims it was consensual), the outcome of the report hinges on whether the minor is found to be psychologically mature enough. If that is indeed the case, then the judge will typically side with the minor. However, a judge may decide differently if the adult is not 21 but rather 30-40. (Which, incidentally, is the scenario I am railing against in this topic. All of these FSP degenerates are in their 30s.) In other words, it's culturally frowned upon for adults to chase kids, but there isn't automatic hand-wringing at a 14 and an 18-19 year old being involved with each other, like there would likely be in the US.

The German penal code is available online in English if you google it.

That's about what I said. There is no crime at all until somebody complains.

[Christian Liberty]

I'm of the opinion that federal money and the goons it buys should not be involved in any criminal prosecutions.

Your reading of that opinion as vigilantism is wrong both in theory and on its face.

Federal monies have permitted the entire legal system to be corrupted, a minimal amount of study should lead you to the same conclusion.

I'm cool with getting rid of the federal government entirely Crime should be prosecuted at the state level at highest, preferably county or city.