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  1. #31
    America will lose.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    The only great thing about this election is that one of them will lose.
    If Gary Johnson manages to win a state or two, and it goes to the House, both of them will lose.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Trump has raised $60 million and has $2 million on hand.
    isn't the nominee going to get a boatload of $$ from the RNC?

    i think the 'self-funding' part was just the run-up during the debates and what not.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    isn't the nominee going to get a boatload of $$ from the RNC?
    Nah, not really.

    The RNC (or DNC) never provide the bulk of the funding.

    And, in this case, they know Trumptard is going to crash and burn.

    So, it's triage now.

    ...support him with words to avoid the backlash, wait for the inevitable and plan for 2020.

    He's not getting any real financial support.

    He'll have to use some of his own money that he pretends to have.

    ...which is to say, he won't have any money.

    i think the 'self-funding' part was just the run-up during the debates and what not.
    It was a lie designed to make rubes believe he was independent of "the establishment."

    ...with whom he is in fact good friends.

    ...and to whom he in fact owes several hundreds of millions of dollars for some of his less than successful real estate deals.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Nah, not really.

    The RNC (or DNC) never provide the bulk of the funding.

    And, in this case, they know Trumptard is going to crash and burn.

    So, it's triage now.

    ...support him with words to avoid the backlash, wait for the inevitable and plan for 2020.

    He's not getting any real financial support.

    He'll have to use some of his own money that he pretends to have.

    ...which is to say, he won't have any money.



    It was a lie designed to make rubes believe he was independent of "the establishment."

    ...with whom he is in fact good friends.

    ...and to whom he in fact owes several hundreds of millions of dollars for some of his less than successful real estate deals.
    bah. you clearly don't want America to be Great Again.

    off to Canada with you.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    bah. you clearly don't want America to be Great Again.

    off to Canada with you.
    Will Canada be Yuge?

    ...because if it's not Yuge, I don't think I could go.

    My place of residence must be Yuge.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Will Canada be Yuge?

    ...because if it's not Yuge, I don't think I could go.

    My place of residence must be Yuge.
    don't even know how to spell it. It's uuuuuuuge

    you obviously don't have any best words.

    = Loser

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    America will lose.
    Why? Because panderin' Rand didn't win?

  11. #39
    I can't imagine a scenario where the Clintons lose. Not that it matters either way. Both major party candidates equally suck.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Hillary's been preparing since she met Bill. She's pure evil; she does nothing but plan.
    Practice doesn't make perfect. Practice makes permanent. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Hillary is the Cersei Lannister of American politics. She's constantly plotting and planning, but she does neither well and nearly all of it is self defeating.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Even the neocons are distancing themselves from the crazy.
    I think at this point, people care less about what those stooges think and more about winning. Being against Trump, no matter what team your on, only benefits Trump. It seems the more people attack him the more popular he gets and the more he's considered an "outsider."

    I can't stand Trump but I do like that the neocons who attack him end up being looked down upon by people who used to look up to them.
    Dishonest money makes for dishonest people.

    Andrew Napolitano, John Stossel. FOX News Liberty Infiltrators.


    Quote Originally Posted by Inkblots View Post
    Dr. Paul is living rent-free in the minds of the neocons, and for a fiscal conservative, free rent is always a good thing
    NOBP ≠ ABO

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Practice doesn't make perfect. Practice makes permanent. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Hillary is the Cersei Lannister of American politics. She's constantly plotting and planning, but she does neither well and nearly all of it is self defeating.
    And yet she will win, by a gigantic margin.

    ...because her opponent is the semi-literate man-child that you've been promoting.

    Well done.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    LOL no

    Is that the same poll that claimed Trump is going to lose the GOP primary?

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Is that the same poll that claimed Trump is going to lose the GOP primary?
    Where were these? I thought that we were all aware that Trump was winning in all of the GOP primary polls, Trump made sure everyone was aware of this every minute of last year.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Is that the same poll that claimed Trump is going to lose the GOP primary?
    The polls always had Thumper winning the GOP primary.

    They were accurate, despite the amazement by we sentient folks.

    These too will be accurate.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by roho76 View Post
    I think at this point, people care less about what those stooges think and more about winning. Being against Trump, no matter what team your on, only benefits Trump. It seems the more people attack him the more popular he gets and the more he's considered an "outsider."

    I can't stand Trump but I do like that the neocons who attack him end up being looked down upon by people who used to look up to them.
    At the end of the day people are going to have to come to terms that you can't trash your cake and eat it too.

    At the end of the GOP convention, one presumes, balloons and confetti will rain down from the rafters. Republican leaders can stand and cheer the nomination of Donald Trump -- or they can stay home and denounce it as the travesty it is. They can't do both.

  20. #47
    Sanders is already kissing Obama's ass after just reportedly being very angry with him after their meeting last Sunday. Today's meeting had Sanders singing a different tune. Sanders has been promised (I'm guessing) major input on the platform (haha, meaningless and will be disregarded). He's asked for the firing of Wasserman-Schultz and the removal of Barnie Frank and someone else from one the convention committees. Dunno if he'll get that. Dems are looking very united in their hatred of Trump and I believe most of Bernie's free $#@! army will do as they're told and vote for old piano legs, in spite how much they hate her. They've also got Pocahontas out there railing against Trump and supporting Clinton and there isn't a Dem or socialist who doesn't worship her. Clinton would be easy to destroy but Trump can't stay on message long enough to do it. Just yelling "Crooked Hillary" isn't enough. He needs to detail the racket that is the Clinton Foundation but he rarely does. The only question is is how much the rest of the population loathes Hillary. We've had decades of the power mad psycho bitch and she is hated by millions. Whether it's enough to get them all voting for Trump I don't know.

    The thought of that hag getting elected is just terrifying. Imagine what she'll appoint to the SCOTUS. Kiss what gun rights remain goodbye because she wants the 2nd gone. She won't make any appointments who could be wild cards. She'll know them inside out and they'll do as she expects.

  21. #48
    I find it funny that everyone thinks Bernouts will vote for Hillary considering how she's treated Bernie supporters yet no one thinks idiot republicans will turn out for Trump. the only republicans that are going to vote for Hillary are hard core NeoCons who love her war tendencies. NASCAR and "mericuh", republicans are going to vote for Trump. Heavily. I can just feel it. The establishment GOP seem worried that their pets aren't necessarily going along with their bull$#@!.
    Dishonest money makes for dishonest people.

    Andrew Napolitano, John Stossel. FOX News Liberty Infiltrators.


    Quote Originally Posted by Inkblots View Post
    Dr. Paul is living rent-free in the minds of the neocons, and for a fiscal conservative, free rent is always a good thing
    NOBP ≠ ABO



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  23. #49
    Bernie has been quietly shutting down for weeks and bashing Trump instead of Hillary. I think he's been in the bag for a long time, maybe from the very beginning. I almost think his impossible run was quietly encouraged. It gave Hillary a practice target who had no chance so she could remain sharp, instead of being completely uncontested, and siphoned in lots of youth who will now be encouraged to support her and other Dem initiatives.

    A lot of those kids will definitely flame out and return to apathy, or look elsewhere for political satisfaction. We've already seen it happen in this movement with Rand's diminishing returns.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    And yet she will win, by a gigantic margin.

    ...because her opponent is the semi-literate man-child that you've been promoting.

    Well done.
    Man-child is on track to win the popular vote by landslide with 73 million votes, as per the "monster wave" analysis of primary voting patterns, as conceded to be valid by the NY Times:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-monster-vote/

    This estimate is even higher than my projection of Trump coming in with 3 to 7 million more votes than Hillary, but its based on similar data and premises.
    -----Peace & Freedom, John Clifton-----
    Blog: https://electclifton.wordpress.com/2...back-backlash/

  25. #51
    Normally when someone becomes the "presumptive nominee" they get a bump in polls in h2h general election match ups. If Clinton isn't beating Trump by 5-10 points by next week I'll be surprised.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Sanders is already kissing Obama's ass after just reportedly being very angry with him after their meeting last Sunday. Today's meeting had Sanders singing a different tune. Sanders has been promised (I'm guessing) major input on the platform (haha, meaningless and will be disregarded). He's asked for the firing of Wasserman-Schultz and the removal of Barnie Frank and someone else from one the convention committees. Dunno if he'll get that. Dems are looking very united in their hatred of Trump and I believe most of Bernie's free $#@! army will do as they're told and vote for old piano legs, in spite how much they hate her.
    Bernie should have demanded the same exact deal Hillary got in 2008---a major cabinet post, substantial autonomy in that position, and the inside track for a clear shot at the nomination in 2020 or 24 for a real progressive of his choosing. He should also demand a change in the party rules going forward so that there are far fewer superdelegates (say 5-10% of delegates), who cannot all declare their choice at the start of the primaries, thereby skewing the media coverage and voting behavior of the rank and file.

    To guarantee the leadership complies, hold out from suspending his campaign and get his name placed into nomination at the convention, thus guaranteeing him an independent nomination speech. If they welsh on his terms he can call them out on it in his primetime speech. Only by negotiating with backbone this way, will Sanders get anything meaningful out of the Hillary coronation.
    -----Peace & Freedom, John Clifton-----
    Blog: https://electclifton.wordpress.com/2...back-backlash/

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    Man-child is on track to win the popular vote by landslide with 73 million votes, as per the "monster wave" analysis of primary voting patterns, as conceded to be valid by the NY Times:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-monster-vote/

    This estimate is even higher than my projection of Trump coming in with 3 to 7 million more votes than Hillary, but its based on similar data and premises.
    How's he going to do that with 25% women, 10% of the minority vote?
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Lovecraftian4Paul View Post
    Bernie has been quietly shutting down for weeks and bashing Trump instead of Hillary. I think he's been in the bag for a long time, maybe from the very beginning. I almost think his impossible run was quietly encouraged. It gave Hillary a practice target who had no chance so she could remain sharp, instead of being completely uncontested, and siphoned in lots of youth who will now be encouraged to support her and other Dem initiatives.

    A lot of those kids will definitely flame out and return to apathy, or look elsewhere for political satisfaction. We've already seen it happen in this movement with Rand's diminishing returns.
    Bernie's a commie and even a corporate whore, racketeering big D Democrat is better in his view than Trump or even a regular Republican. He never hit Clinton on anything other than her Goldman Sachs speech and her vote for the Iraq war. The really dirty stuff like the fake charity also know as the Clinton Foundation, he was dead silent on. He didn't run one negative ad against her. Ultimately, he wants the left side of the isle protected and he was not about to do long term harm to them. He just wants to force his side more to the left. I don't think there was any colluding between the two. I'd say Clinton saw him as a royal pain in the ass.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    How's he going to do that with 25% women, 10% of the minority vote?
    Trump is currently at 37% and rising with Latinos, and 26% with blacks. Republicans won the women’s vote 49%-48% in the 2010 midterms, only barely lost it (47%) in the 2014 midterms, and the GOP won the white women’s vote outright 56%-43% in 2014. And the monster vote analysis strongly suggests the white voter turnout factor has been deeply underrepresented in normal polling, but is correctly predicted by the actual primary voter data. Trump is in a far more stronger election position than is being presented by the media.
    -----Peace & Freedom, John Clifton-----
    Blog: https://electclifton.wordpress.com/2...back-backlash/

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    Trump is currently at 37% and rising with Latinos, and 26% with blacks. Republicans won the women’s vote 49%-48% in the 2010 midterms, only barely lost it (47%) in the 2014 midterms, and the GOP won the white women’s vote outright 56%-43% in 2014. And the monster vote analysis strongly suggests the white voter turnout factor has been deeply underrepresented in normal polling, but is correctly predicted by the actual primary voter data. Trump is in a far more stronger election position than is being presented by the media.
    He still needs over 90% turnout and around 60% vote share from non college educated white to win anything more than the safe GOP states. As of now, even Kansas could be a swing state.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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  32. #57
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    He still needs over 90% turnout and around 60% vote share from non college educated white to win anything more than the safe GOP states. As of now, even Kansas could be a swing state.
    Utah, as well- it could even go Libertarian.
    There is no spoon.

  34. #59
    It comes down to states , and marxist cities within the marxist states . I cannot see the Dem machine being defeated.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Bernie's a commie and even a corporate whore, racketeering big D Democrat is better in his view than Trump or even a regular Republican. He never hit Clinton on anything other than her Goldman Sachs speech and her vote for the Iraq war. The really dirty stuff like the fake charity also know as the Clinton Foundation, he was dead silent on. He didn't run one negative ad against her. Ultimately, he wants the left side of the isle protected and he was not about to do long term harm to them. He just wants to force his side more to the left. I don't think there was any colluding between the two. I'd say Clinton saw him as a royal pain in the ass.
    How much bad press did Ron give McCain? Bad-mouthing others is not a way to win friends and influence people. The best way is to stay positive.
    There is no spoon.

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