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    Exclamation House Kills Amendment Protecting Americans from Credit Discrimination Based on Politics

    Democrats Kill Amendment Protecting Americans from Credit Discrimination Based on Politics, Religion

    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...credit-system/

    FRANCES MARTEL 30 Jan 2020

    Democrats in the House of Representatives voted on Wednesday against an amendment to a proposed bill that would prevent the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) from forcing credit reporting agencies to evaluate Americans based on political opinions or religious beliefs.

    Without such an amendment, Republicans warn, the powerful CFPB would have the legal authority to make nearly any criteria mandatory for a private credit evaluation company to take into consideration, paving the way for a system in which the federal government has the power to assign numerical scores to individuals based on their loyalty to a certain political party, membership in civil society groups that the government approves or disapproves of, or other private behaviors.

    The system, they say, would mirror the newly minted “social credit system” in place in China, which bans citizens from key social services like public transportation if they lose too many points behaving in a way the Communist Party disapproves of.

    The CFPB, the brainchild of Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), is an executive agency that does not answer to the presidency, making it unaccountable to anyone but its head. The constitutionality of giving an unelected body the power to impose its demands on private individuals and corporations has been the subject of extensive debate, and the unique power given to a bureau director triggered an aggressive fight for the seat after founding director Richard Cordray, chosen by President Barack Obama, resigned.

    Republicans moved on Wednesday to amend the 1970 Fair Credit Reporting Act in light of the existence of the CFPB. The failed amendment would have prevented the Bureau from forcing private credit scoring companies to “make use of information related to political opinions, religious expression, or other expression protected by the First Amendment, whether obtained from a social media account of a consumer or other sources.”

    The amendment would have been tacked onto Rep. Ayanna Pressley’s (D-MA) Student Borrower Credit Improvement Act, or Comprehensive CREDIT Act of 2020, which grants the CFPB power to order private credit evaluation companies not to take into account what Pressley and her fellow Democrats consider unfair criteria. Having bad credit could keep an American from buying a car or a home, limiting their economic potential. Pressley’s bill would, in particular, prevent unexpected medical expenses or unpaid student loans from harming a person’s credit.

    The bill, which passed, decrees:

    A consumer reporting agency may not furnish any consumer report containing any adverse item of information relating to a delinquent or defaulted private education loan of a borrower if the borrower has rehabilitated the borrower’s credit with respect to such loan by making 9 on-time monthly payments (in accordance with the terms and conditions of the borrower’s original loan agreement or any other repayment agreement that antedates the original agreement) during a period of 10 consecutive months on such loan after the date on which the delinquency or default occurred.

    It then tasks the CFPB to implement a “credit rehabilitation” system to help individuals reach the point necessary for the above protection to apply to them.

    The amendment banning the CFPB from including First Amendment expressions in its “credit rehabilitation” – in ways such as improving someone’s credit for “good” speech or excluding them from the program for “bad” speech – would not have significantly limited the scope of the Comprehensive CREDIT Act.

    Yet Democrats rejected the amendment with 208 votes; only 15 House Democrats voted in favor of the free speech protections. Some, like Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI), abstained.

    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) warned following the vote that the CFPB, if the new law passes the Senate without such protections, would now have the power to use any aspect of a person’s life to change their credit score, with significant potential for abuse.

    “In keeping with their theme of handing over more control to the government, Democrats now support giving the CFPB unchecked authority on credit score modeling, without any built-in measure to stop potential abuse of power or violation of our Constitutional rights,” McCarthy said in a statement following the vote. “There is a terrifying parallel to the practices of China’s communist regime, which seeks to control the actions of their population with a social credit score. This kind of oppressive practice is antithetical to American freedoms and ideals.”

    The Chinese social credit system is political, not financial – the Communist Party assigns a numerical value to every citizen in the country based on “good citizenship,” largely defined as loyalty to the party. China’s expansive surveillance system monitors every action, online and in the real world, every citizen takes and scores a person based on each one. Among the activities known to affect a social credit score are jaywalking, curbing one’s dog, littering, and speaking ill of the government online (“disturbing public order”). Ethnic and religious minorities fear that practicing any religion under communist rule will hurt their social credit scores, particularly Christians and ethnic Uyghur Muslims, millions of which are currently languishing in concentration camps. Among other vulnerable groups are anti-Xi Jinping Marxist activists, human rights attorneys, Communist Party members considered disloyal to Xi, or musicians suspected of using their art to promote non-Communist values.

    The Chinese social credit system has “blacklisted” over 13 million people as of May, when Beijing made its latest figures public. It has blocked 23 million attempted purchases of train, public bus, and airplane tickets. The consequences for having a low credit score range from being banned from traveling anywhere or patronize businesses like hotels in the country to being forced to use an “embarrassing” ringtone that immediately identifies one as a “discredited individual.”

    China has begun exporting this system, along with its surveillance technology, to countries in the Western Hemisphere like Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia.

    The CFPB was nominally created to protect Americans from economic malfeasance in the aftermath of the 2008 economic crisis.

    “Every day, the good people at that independent agency crack down on dishonest and deceptive practices like the ones that helped cause the crash,” President Obama said in July 2016, sitting next to Warren, who designed the agency. “The proof is in the more than 27 million consumers who in just five years have gotten refunds and other relief from credit card companies, payday lenders, debt collectors, and others that tried to rip them off.”

    Yet the Bureau has faced repeated accusations of abuse of power, particularly under Cordray, its founding director. In perhaps the most absurd example of overreach, the CFPB attempted in 2015 to punish a land development company for not maintaining roads in Tennessee at the standard the Bureau deemed appropriate. Industries or organizations the left disapproves of, like firearms manufacturers or politically conservative religious groups, could similarly find themselves in CFPB crosshairs.

    The CFPB’s constitutionality has been controversial given the fact that the president has only limited oversight on the agency through a narrow list of reasons to remove a director. Lawsuits have attempted to bring the constitutionality of the agency to the Supreme Court but have yet to successfully do so. The Supreme Court in October agreed to hear a challenge to the constitutionality of the CFPB.

    Democrats’ move to prevent free speech safeguards from being added to the CFPB’s credit evaluation powers occurred just as Warren launched a campaign against “disinformation,” a word the Chinese regime often uses to censor anti-communist speech.

    “Anyone who seeks to challenge and defeat Donald Trump must be prepared to take on the full array of disinformation that foreign actors and people in and around his campaign will use to divide Democrats, suppress Democratic votes, and erode the standing of the Democratic nominee,” Warren wrote on Twitter on Wednesday. “Campaigns and tech companies can take a number of steps to slow the spread of misinformation right now. And as president, I’ll take a series of actions to further address the spread of disinformation.”

    Warren did not define “disinformation” or offer examples of how she would use executive power to silence “disinformation.”

    Other Democratic presidential candidates have posited a separate point system for evaluating good citizenship. Andrew Yang has named his social credit system “modern time banking.”

    “Volunteer activity and community engagement would be tracked by an app and seeded, initially, by the government. After that, local administrators would oversee the program,” Yang explained on his website, comparing the point system to loyalty programs at chain restaurants.
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    Typical Democrats. Always doing something to alienate conservatives.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Sounds like a lot of hypotheticals that credit card companies, banks, credit reporting agencies, along with their many lobbyists won't like. Meh. No need for more regulation, even if it sounds good on the surface. What else was in the bill?

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    Demoncrats are the party of the Beast.
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    We have thousands of laws, just write one at the state level that prohibits businesses
    from turning away those of us that like to eat and pay for services away based on
    our belief system; Religion , politics, whatever..........
    If that doesn't come to pass, conservatives or constitutionalists etc should knuckle down
    and build an alliance that refuses to patronize offending business.
    If half the population boycotted these businesses they would soon go bankrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    We have thousands of laws, just write one at the state level that prohibits businesses
    from turning away those of us that like to eat and pay for services away based on
    our belief system; Religion , politics, whatever..........
    If that doesn't come to pass, conservatives or constitutionalists etc should knuckle down
    and build an alliance that refuses to patronize offending business.
    If half the population boycotted these businesses they would soon go bankrupt.
    Not necessary. Do you think the banking industry would sacrifice a valuable metric on the financial risk of individuals to hurt conservatives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    Not necessary. Do you think the banking industry would sacrifice a valuable metric on the financial risk of individuals to hurt conservatives?
    Yes.

    They have money, now they want power.
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    Democrats vote against a bill which would add regulations to an industry and people here are upset. Maybe it is just that it was Democrats and not the bit about stopping a new regulation? If it was Trump- "ah see how many regulations he is getting rid of!"

    And there is no indication that banking wants to discriminate against customers based on their politics. An amendment in search of a problem.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-30-2020 at 08:36 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Democrats vote against a bill which would add regulations to an industry and people here are upset. Maybe it is just that it was Democrats and not the bit about stopping a new regulation? If it was Trump- "ah see how many regulations he is getting rid of!"

    And there is no indication that banking wants to discriminate against customers based on their politics.
    Try reading before you comment.

    This is about a government agency, government should not be discriminating based on politics.

    And unless the banking industry is deregulated and opened up to true competition (including the end of the Fed) it is effectively part of the government and shouldn't be allowed to discriminate based on politics either.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    And there is no indication that banking wants to discriminate against customers based on their politics. An amendment in search of a problem.
    There are many examples of them doing it already.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There are many examples of them doing it already.
    Link?

    Who are they and what do they actually do?

    https://www.federalregister.gov/agen...tection-bureau

    The Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection (CFPB) is an independent bureau within the Federal Reserve System that empowers consumers with the information they need to make financial decisions in the best interests of them and their families. The CFPB was created under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd-Frank Act).

    The purpose of the CFPB is to promote fairness and transparency for mortgages, credit cards, and other consumer financial products and services. The CFPB will set and enforce clear, consistent rules that allow banks and other consumer financial services providers to compete on a level playing field and that let consumers see clearly the costs and features of products and services.

    The functions of the CFPB to assist people in borrowing money or using other financial services include: implementing and enforcing Federal consumer financial laws; reviewing business practices to ensure that financial services providers are following the law; monitoring the marketplace and taking appropriate action to make sure markets work as transparently as they can for consumers; and establishing a toll-free consumer hotline and website for complaints and questions about consumer financial products and services.
    They don't "score" anybody.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-30-2020 at 08:45 PM.

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    That is not the Consumer Protection Bureau- the subject of the proposed amendment. Their job is to fight for complaints like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    That is not the Consumer Protection Bureau- the subject of the proposed amendment. Their job is to fight for complaints like that.
    And the Demoncrats are trying to empower them to change your credit rating.
    Speak out and say the CFPB should be ended and kiss your credit goodbye, and that's just the beginning, leftist insanity is always stronger in government than in the private sector.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And the Demoncrats are trying to empower them to change your credit rating.
    Speak out and say the CFPB should be ended and kiss your credit goodbye, and that's just the beginning, leftist insanity is always stronger in government than in the private sector.
    The CFPB does not determine a person's credit rating. The private rating bureaus do. If there is a problem with ratings, the CFPB may get involved but they don't set the rules.

    https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/article...-credit-scores

    How is a credit scoring system developed?

    To develop a credit scoring system or model, a creditor or insurance company selects a random sample of customers and analyzes it statistically to identify characteristics that relate to risk. Each of the characteristics then is assigned a weight based on how strong a predictor it is of who would be a good risk. Each company may use its own scoring model, different scoring models for different types of credit or insurance, or a generic model developed by a scoring company.

    Under the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA), a creditor’s scoring system may not use certain characteristics — for example, race, sex, marital status, national origin, or religion — as factors. The law allows creditors to use age, but any credit scoring system that includes age must give equal treatment to applicants who are elderly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The CFPB does not determine a person's credit rating. The private rating bureaus do. If there is a problem with ratings, the CFPB may get involved but they don't set the rules.

    https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/article...-credit-scores
    Read the OP or stop making irrelevant comments.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Read the OP or stop making irrelevant comments.
    The OP doesn't follow facts. It has lots of "could" and "maybe". It is a bad article. But then again, it is Breitbart.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-30-2020 at 09:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Link?

    Who are they and what do they actually do?

    https://www.federalregister.gov/agen...tection-bureau



    They don't "score" anybody.
    The dragon a stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

    5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world. b

    9Whoever has ears, let them hear.

    10“If anyone is to go into captivity,

    into captivity they will go.

    If anyone is to be killed c with the sword,

    with the sword they will be killed.” d

    This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.



    11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

    18This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. e That number is 666.



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    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The OP doesn't follow facts. It has lots of "could" and "maybe". It is a bad article. But then again, it is Breitbart.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    And that is where he ran out of arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The OP doesn't follow facts. It has lots of "could" and "maybe". It is a bad article. But then again, it is Breitbart.
    Something something pot, something something kettle.

    You should really review your own threads if you're complaining about facts vs. maybes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    And that is where he ran out of arguments.
    Right after you did.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Democrats vote against a bill which would add regulations to an industry and people here are upset. Maybe it is just that it was Democrats and not the bit about stopping a new regulation? If it was Trump- "ah see how many regulations he is getting rid of!"
    Are you honestly trying to tell me that the left voted against this in a spirit of "de-regulation" and NOT because they like the idea that political enemies can be destroyed by the banksters, simply by de-funding those who are politically "problematic".

    Seriously...you're trying to say that?

    And there is no indication that banking wants to discriminate against customers based on their politics. An amendment in search of a problem.
    Sez you...

    Bank of America to Stop Financing Makers of Military-Style Guns


    Stop gaslighting people...it is getting really tiresome.

    Not just the banks, but all manner of leftist, globalist, hyper-corps are more than willing to piss off their customers in order to pursue "woke" political objectives.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-30-2020 at 09:39 PM.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Are you honestly trying to tell me that the left voted against this in a spirit of "de-regulation" and NOT because they like the idea that political enemies can be destroyed by the banksters, simply by de-funding those who are politically "problematic".

    Seriously...you're trying to say that?



    Sez you...

    Bank of America to Stop Financing Makers of Military-Style Guns


    Stop gaslighting people...it is getting really tiresome.

    Not just the banks, but all manner of leftist, globalist, hyper-corps are more than willing to piss off their customers in order to pursue "woke" political objectives.
    Everyone knows the big banks are anti 2nd amendment , anti weed , etc and anti freedom .
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    And there is no indication that banking wants to discriminate against customers based on their politics.
    What's that you were saying @Zippyjuan ?

    Wells Fargo, Fifth Third Banks Yank $5.4 Million From ‘Bigoted’ Brown Kids At Christian Schools

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/31...stian-schools/

    JANUARY 31, 2020 By Joy Pullmann

    Wells Fargo and Fifth Third announced this week they will no longer donate to help poor, minority children attend better Christian schools, because the banks’ leaders think Christian teachings about sex are bigoted. Last year, the two corporations donated $5.4 million to Florida’s tax-credit scholarship program, which assists more than 100,000 children, approximately 70 percent of whom are black, Hispanic, and multiracial.

    “All of us at Wells Fargo highly value diversity and inclusion, and we oppose discrimination of any kind,” said a spokeswoman.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What's that you were saying @Zippyjuan ?

    Wells Fargo, Fifth Third Banks Yank $5.4 Million From ‘Bigoted’ Brown Kids At Christian Schools

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/31...stian-schools/

    JANUARY 31, 2020 By Joy Pullmann

    Wells Fargo and Fifth Third announced this week they will no longer donate to help poor, minority children attend better Christian schools, because the banks’ leaders think Christian teachings about sex are bigoted. Last year, the two corporations donated $5.4 million to Florida’s tax-credit scholarship program, which assists more than 100,000 children, approximately 70 percent of whom are black, Hispanic, and multiracial.

    “All of us at Wells Fargo highly value diversity and inclusion, and we oppose discrimination of any kind,” said a spokeswoman.
    The subject of the OP, the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau is actually set up to fight against such actions.

    https://www.consumerfinance.gov/abou...ing-practices/

    Consumer Financial Protection Bureau And Department Of Justice Action Requires Bancorpsouth To Pay $10.6 Million To Address Discriminatory Mortgage Lending Practices

    https://www.consumerfinance.gov/fair-lending/

    What protections do I have against credit discrimination?

    Responsible borrowers use credit to go to college, open businesses, and buy homes. American consumers should have the opportunity to use credit to build a better future for themselves and their loved ones. Credit discrimination prevents people from having access to these opportunities, and can make credit more expensive.

    What is credit discrimination?
    The Equal Credit Opportunity Act makes it illegal for a creditor to discriminate in any aspect of credit transaction based on certain characteristics.

    In addition, the Fair Housing Act makes many discrimination practices in home financing illegal.

    It is illegal to:

    Refuse you credit if you qualify for it
    Discourage you from applying for credit
    Offer you credit on terms that are less favorable, like a higher interest rate, than terms offered to someone with similar qualifications
    Close your account

    On the basis of:

    Race or color
    Religion
    National origin
    Sex (including gender)*
    Marital status
    Age (as long as you are old enough to enter into a contract)
    Receipt of income from any public assistance program
    Exercising in good faith your rights under the Consumer Credit Protection Act.

    *Currently, the law supports arguments that the prohibition against sex discrimination also affords broad protection from discrimination based on a consumer’s gender identity and sexual orientation.
    Our work

    The CFPB is unique among financial regulators. Other regulators focus on the safety and soundness of the financial institutions first. The CFPB is the first to focus primarily on the American consumer. To learn more about our fair lending efforts, check out our recent report to Congress or our recent blog posts.

    We work to ensure fair, equitable, and nondiscriminatory access to credit for both individuals and communities through:

    Data-driven research and analysis of consumer financial markets and services;
    Enforcement and oversight of Federal fair lending laws; and
    Promotion of fair lending compliance and education among industry, fair lending, civil rights, and consumer and community advocates.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-31-2020 at 12:51 PM.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The subject of the OP, the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau is actually set up to fight against such actions.
    That's as may be.

    I just want you to retract this statement:

    And there is no indication that banking wants to discriminate against customers based on their politics.
    Clearly that is not true.

    Banks, and the larger financial establishment as a whole, is very willing and is increasingly discriminating and denying financial services to people and organizations that are politically or culturally "problematic".

    And that that was the reason the House leftists voted against this bill's amendment.

    Now, if you want to make the case that a free market in banking and property rights absolutely gives the right discriminate for any reason or no reason at all, then fine.

    But it's got to cut both ways, and right now it does not.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Join a local credit union. All I'm gonna say.

    I haven't banked with a national chain since SunTrust got bailout money. That year I closed out my account and joined a credit union. Hell they treat me nicer than my bank ever did. Each year in December I get a check from them based on performance. That's in addition to interest, which pays higher rates than SunTrust ever did.

    oh, and when's the last time your bank ever let you vote on the people running it?
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 01-31-2020 at 02:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The subject of the OP, the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau is actually set up to fight against such actions.

    https://www.consumerfinance.gov/abou...ing-practices/




    https://www.consumerfinance.gov/fair-lending/
    That means nothing, the left uses anything it wants to use to "punish its enemies".
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