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    Judas goat libertarians from CATO & Reason. Ilya Shapiro & Elizabeth Nolan Brown attack Massie

    https://libertyconservativenews.com/...tory-vaccines/

    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) has stood valiantly, as any libertarian-minded individual should, against the scourge of mandatory vaccines.

    He made a simple statement against mandatory vaccines on his Twitter account last week, in which he implied that mandatory vaccines enforced by government edicts were anti-American.

    While this sentiment would be expected to offend far-left control freaks and maybe even some busybody conservatives, corporate libertarians funded by the Koch Network also took ire with Massie’s common sense pro-freedom sentiment.

    Cato Institute constitutional scholar Ilya Shapiro posted a comment explicitly in favor of mandatory vaccines in response to Massie.

    Massie responded incredulously to the remark, wondering whether or not Shapiro’s perspective was the official viewpoint of his employer.

    This caused other Koch acolytes to dog pile on Massie, such as the openly feminist Reason editor Elizabeth Nolan Brown.
    Last edited by unknown; 12-21-2020 at 05:45 PM.
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    Cato loves them some unfettered immigrants and now vaccines. $#@! Cato.

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    I have seen some Libertarians argue for mandatory vaccines in the more distant past, so this is not a new phenomenon. Regardless of the label attached to the person advocating for them, it is worth pointing out that mandatory vaccines can only be meaningfully resisted by force. The advocates of mandatory vaccination should be reminded that 4th Generation Warfare allows for them to be targeted for their support of reprehensible actions.

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    What do you get when you cross a bleeding heart SJW with a global vulture capitalist?

    A beltway libertarian.
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    Here's one thread of the Twitter exchange in question. #sassywithmassie

    https://twitter.com/ishapiro/status/1333625567007150080


    https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1333723361868967937


    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...28322874986498


    https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1333732936219320320


    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...82113041190912
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    wow just wow.

    If they favor compulsory acts "to benefit society", perhaps someone should force them to read:

    "The Contagion Myth: Why Viruses (including "Coronavirus") Are Not the Cause of Disease"

    and

    "The Invisible Rainbow: A history of electricity and life"

    and

    "Bechamp vs Pasteur"

    and

    "The Body Electric"

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    Reason Magazine is now a proud member of the Fake News Media aka The SEE BS Network.





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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Are Trump supporters attacking Massie/some sort of pro "Trump" vaccine play?


    Potentially Related
    Trump administration: Employers can require workers to get COVID-19 vaccine



    HUH?




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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Before recently being 'backstabbed by neocons' vizavee 'stolen election', Trump used to ally with some neocons and sometimes even attacked libertarians like Massie.
    That doen't mean necessarily if this is part of same campaign but vaccine has been celeberated as a "big success" by MAGA camp.

    Trump tweets: "Third rate grandstander" Massie is a disaster for Kentucky and America

    Representative Massie was correct in opposing the first coronavirus relief package due to the ever growing national debt.


    But from a purely Liability standpoint I disagree because

    a) it was fedgov the one who engineered the virus

    b) it was fedgov who tanked the economy, forced 40,000,000 Americans into unemployment and thousands of businesses into bankruptcy and the reason DJT was frustrated


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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Here's one thread of the Twitter exchange in question. #sassywithmassie

    https://twitter.com/ishapiro/status/1333625567007150080


    https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1333723361868967937


    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...28322874986498


    https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1333732936219320320


    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...82113041190912

    That last one was good:

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...82113041190912


    I gotta get in on this twitter and start roasting these scumbags.

    you know this is a genuine point of debate among libertarians

    Wait, WTF?

    Theres a "debate" regarding forced vaccinations, AMONG LIBERTARIANS???

    What in the actual $#@! is going on.

    Has the movement been completely co-opted?
    Last edited by unknown; 12-22-2020 at 02:55 AM.
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    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown
    What in the actual $#@! is going on.
    There will never be liberty found inside the Beltway. Pretty much everything inside the Beltway has been infiltrated and subverted.

    Koch network has also been trying to "purchase" YAL.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...82113041190912
    Brilliant.

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    I wonder where Shapiro draws the line of what constitutes a disease that's harmful/contagious enough to warrant mandated vaccines.

    Do any such diseases actually exist? Or is this just theoretical.

    We seem to have done alright getting rid of smallpox by letting people make their own decisions about taking the vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danda View Post
    wow just wow.

    If they favor compulsory acts "to benefit society", perhaps someone should force them to read:

    "The Contagion Myth: Why Viruses (including "Coronavirus") Are Not the Cause of Disease"

    and

    "The Invisible Rainbow: A history of electricity and life"

    and

    "Bechamp vs Pasteur"

    and

    "The Body Electric"
    THIS^^^

    I am a total Bechamp advocate. He was the the Tesla of real health while Pasteur was the Edison.
    There is no spoon.



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    CATO & Reason Libertarians are secret Communists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    THIS^^^

    I am a total Bechamp advocate. He was the the Tesla of real health while Pasteur was the Edison.
    Indeed. Bechamp was a real scientist with curiosity, discipline, and integrity. Pasteur was a plagiarist, fraud and a sycophant. Sadly, germ theory and our entire medical establishment is based on the latter's mistakes, and the former has been all but forgotten.

    In "The Contagion Myth" it is shown that no disease has ever been shown to pass either Koch's postulates or River's postulates. In other words, no bacteria or virus from a sick person has ever been properly isolated and then shown to cause disease in another person. (or animal). This sounds in-credible to a layperson, yet it appears to be true.

    Traditional Chinese Medicine and Ayurveda have no concept of contagion. Only toxins and energies.

    I could go on, but am running short on time.

    Truly, everyone here on RPF should buy these books, read and understand them, because knowledge and truth is the only way to strike at the heart of the misinformation and fraudulent fearmongering that is being used against us in the name of a supposedly contagious disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danda View Post
    Indeed. Bechamp was a real scientist with curiosity, discipline, and integrity. Pasteur was a plagiarist, fraud and a sycophant. Sadly, germ theory and our entire medical establishment is based on the latter's mistakes, and the former has been all but forgotten.

    In "The Contagion Myth" it is shown that no disease has ever been shown to pass either Koch's postulates or River's postulates. In other words, no bacteria or virus from a sick person has ever been properly isolated and then shown to cause disease in another person. (or animal). This sounds in-credible to a layperson, yet it appears to be true.

    Traditional Chinese Medicine and Ayurveda have no concept of contagion. Only toxins and energies.

    I could go on, but am running short on time.

    Truly, everyone here on RPF should buy these books, read and understand them, because knowledge and truth is the only way to strike at the heart of the misinformation and fraudulent fearmongering that is being used against us in the name of a supposedly contagious disease.
    Totally, agree, Bro!

    Real health is individuals taking care of their "terrain" AKA- the body- not massive injections/chemo/ etc. Germs are NOT dangerous & are part of the natural system of good health & longevity.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    CATO & Reason Libertarians are secret Communists
    Would be hard to disprove that , especially (t)reason .

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    Personally I'm about sick of listening to these mandatory vaxxer $#@!tards . Its people like that why I own a bayonet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    I am a total Bechamp advocate. He was the the Tesla of real health while Pasteur was the Edison.
    btw, if you like Bechamp and Tesla, you might be aware of or want to check out some of these other little known but amazing scientists:

    Christian Birkeland (The Northern Lights) amazing dude, Tesla contemporary.

    Hannes Alfven (Hannes Alfvén: Dean of the Plasma Dissidents)

    Thomas Townsend Browne (related book: Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion)

    Wal Thornhill (The Electric Universe)

    Johanna Budwig (Flax Oil as a True Aid Against Arthritis, Heart Infarction, Cancer and Other Diseases)

    Robert Becker (The Body Electric)

    Royal Raymond Rife (The Cancer Cure that Worked)

    Book titles by or about each scientist are in parenthesis.


    The work of each one in very different fields points towards electricity as the universal force behind matter, life, solar and intergalactic cosmology, gravity, etc.

    We just need to learn to work in harmony with it.



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