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    Russia Rejects Arbitration Ruling on Crimean Assets

    The International Court of Arbitration has awarded $1.3 billion to Ukraine’s second largest state-owned bank, Oschadbank, in its compensation case against Russia due to the loss of business and assets in Crimea following Moscow's 2014 annexation of the peninsula, the Kyiv Post reported Nov. 26. But the Russian Justice Ministry said Moscow did not recognize the court’s jurisdiction in the matter and its ruling.

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    They didn't annex it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    They didn't annex it.
    According to the dictionary they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    According to the dictionary they did.
    A referendum on the status of Crimea was held on March 16, 2014, by the legislature of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and by the local government of Sevastopol (both subdivisions of Ukraine).

    The official result from the Autonomous Republic of Crimea was a 96.77 percent vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83.1 percent voter turnout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    A referendum on the status of Crimea was held on March 16, 2014, by the legislature of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and by the local government of Sevastopol (both subdivisions of Ukraine).

    The official result from the Autonomous Republic of Crimea was a 96.77 percent vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83.1 percent voter turnout.
    We had this discussion already:

    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    How did they "annex"? Popular vote from Local Crimeans chose Russia over The Ukraine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    annex (ə-nĕksˈ, ănˈĕksˌ)►



    • v.
      To append or attach, especially to a larger or more significant thing.
    • v.
      To incorporate (territory) into an existing political unit such as a country, state, county, or city.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    My club votes to join your club, did your club annex us?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If we vote to accept you then doing so will be annexing you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I don't think that is how it is been traditionally defined.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I have seen it used that way in history books, but you are probably right about popular perception, I have no doubt they picked that word because it could be interpreted by the public as a synonym of "stole".
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Was Georgia annexed when it voted to join the union?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes, by the academic definition.

    annex (ə-nĕksˈ, ănˈĕksˌ)►




    • v.
      To append or attach, especially to a larger or more significant thing.
    • v.
      To incorporate (territory) into an existing political unit such as a country, state, county, or city.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    you are being dishonest. You are leaving out the definition that says by force.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, I only need it to match one definition of the word, also those definitions include instances of force, they do not specify the method of appending, attaching or incorporating the smaller thing to the larger.
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    Annexation (Latin ad, to, and nexus, joining) is the administrative action[1] and concept in international law relating to the forcible acquisition of one state's territory by another state.[2] It is generally held to be an illegal act.[2] It is distinct from conquest, which refers to the acquisition of control over a territory involving a change of sovereignty,[3][4] and differs from cession, in which territory is given or sold through treaty, since annexation is a unilateral act where territory is seized and held by one state.[5] It usually follows military occupation of a territory.[1]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Annexation (Latin ad, to, and nexus, joining) is the administrative action[1] and concept in international law relating to the forcible acquisition of one state's territory by another state.[2] It is generally held to be an illegal act.[2] It is distinct from conquest, which refers to the acquisition of control over a territory involving a change of sovereignty,[3][4] and differs from cession, in which territory is given or sold through treaty, since annexation is a unilateral act where territory is seized and held by one state.[5] It usually follows military occupation of a territory.[1]
    That is the definition they want everyone to think of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is the definition they want everyone to think of.
    It is the common use when talking about states/countries. And what is meant when written about in articles such as in the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    It is the common use when talking about states/countries. And what is meant when written about in articles such as in the OP.
    In addition to the broader definition they also claim that the vote was conducted under duress and is invalid.

    It's nonsense but that is the party line.
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