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How many people here outraged have even watched it?
The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.
I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.
This is the critical issue here.
The weirdosexuals have won every front they have attacked on, and I have no doubt at all that this is the next front: the normalization of prepubescent sex with adults, both hommo and hetero sexual.
That is all this film is designed to do, move that ball forward.
And if people get wound up and outraged about that, (maybe if not fully justified) so much the better.
Netflix and their political agenda sucks.
Anything that hurts their bottom line is fine by me.
Why the Left Is Normalizing Child Pornography
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...d-pornography/
John Nolte 14 Sep 2020
If the uproar over Netflix’s Cuties tells us anything, it’s that we’re now at a point where the political left and the national media want to normalize child pornography.
There is no moral world, no sane world in which a movie like Cuties is okay. While I acknowledged in my review that Cuties is critical of the misogynist elements of traditional Islam and that that’s a perfectly reasonable message, I do not agree the movie is a critique of how social media sexualizes children.
To me, Cuties is a classic story with a classic structure. You put your hero through a difficult journey and the hero comes out the other end better for it. That’s what twerking and posting nude photos accomplish for the 11-year-old Ami, the protagonist in Cuties. This journey is portrayed as difficult but ultimately healthy. Spiritually and mentally healthy. There’s no lasting damage at the end of that journey, just growth and enlightenment. Terrible message. Indefensible.
Even if you buy the manure that Cuties is critical of sexualizing children, how is sexualizing children to criticize sexualizing children okay?
Cuties is not like a movie opposed to torture or animal abuse or rape that dramatizes torture and animal abuse and rape. The sexualization of young girls is not dramatized in Cuties. The girls are sexualized. The camera floats all over them like a pervert, even when they spread their 11-year-old legs.
So why is the left suddenly crossing this line? Why is Netflix mainstreaming soft-core child pornography? Why is it now acceptable for the elite media to publish headlines like this one?: “Cuties, Netflix Review: a Provocative Powder-Keg for an Age Terrified of Child Sexuality” — as if only backwards hicks could be “terrified” of sexualizing 11-year-olds.
Or this headline: “The Creepy Conservative Obsession With Netflix’s Cuties, Explained” — as though finding soft-core child pornography revolting and outrageous is all of a sudden a “creepy obsession.”
Those in the media not openly defending soft-core child pornography are defending it by covering up the controversy, by pretending it doesn’t exist, like CNNLOL.
Talk about silence as complicity.
So how did we get to a point where Hollywood, the national media, and the political left are openly embracing and defending crotch shots and booty shots of 11-year-old characters wearing too much makeup, tank tops, and short-shorts?
Well, I think there are a few elements at work here.
The first is that the political left hates the right so $#@!ing much that when given the choice between defending child pornography and siding with us, they’re going to defend child pornography. Good grief, they are already defending, championing, and encouraging four months of riots, looting, arson, murder, and mayhem. These are depraved people.
The second thing is that there are too many people in the elite media and Hollywood who want to have sex with children. Sorry, they just do. You think this is only a problem in the Catholic Church? So…
If you want to have sex with kids, if you want that lifestyle normalized, how do you accomplish that? Well, you start by slowly normalizing it with movies like Cuties. You nudge the line just a bit so people get people used to it.
Think about it: Hollywood, the media, and the left — through entertainment and sex education and the like — have been sexualizing children for a few decades now.
The third reason is, I think, the most important… By degrading and debasing children, you destroy the family structure, and nothing is a bigger threat to the left’s insatiable thirst for power than the nuclear family.
So they pump $#@! like Cuties into tens of millions of homes, disguise it as art, and attack those of us disgusted by it as “creepy” and “terrified” and unsophisticated and uncool.
Better still, it’s another battle in the culture war that keeps us divided, a battle that sends a message to young girls that the path to enlightenment and growth is stripping naked, spreading your legs wide, snapping a close-up, and publishing the results online.
Once that happens, lives are permanently destroyed, families are shattered, and elite sickos are one step closer to having their sex-with-kids lifestyle normalized.
Evil’s gunna evil.
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Netflix is doom porn (or as AF posted, Dystopia Porn). Just about everything on it is hopelessness and end of the world scenarios. I personally know someone whose daughter committed suicide after binge watching "13 Reasons Why". If anything good comes out of this movie controversy, it will be back-lash against Netflix for it's destructive content. Cancel Netflix.
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An obvious question to ask: if this really was softcore child porn, does anyone honestly believe it would be on Netflix? AFAIK, Netflix does not carry hardcore porn of any kind. I may be wrong though. Correct me if it is on there.
Yes, the LGBTQ+ community has completely dominated Hollywood and all content. Is it good for them to normalize, condition and groom kids? No, not at all.
And yes, this may well be a slippery slope towards normalizing pedophilia. Not good at all.
On a tangent, it could be pointed out that the coming of age, first experience topic has been covered in a billion ways in movies in the past (much more normal than LGBTQ+). In that sense, this is a normal and ancient topic, as old as humans. And the maker of this movie is claiming this excuse as cover.
If people get worked up and Netflix comes under scrutiny, yes, all the better. For the most part they are a leftist political agenda and indoctrination machine. And the dystopia part of their agenda is related to global warming and the COVID power grab. "The world is ending, and an all powerful leftist government is the only thing that will save you."
As far as going with the "Cuties is child porn" meme, not gonna run with that. I'm more about reason, logic and evidence. It is interesting to see the right-wing go off and running on an emotional witch hunt. Usually that is a leftist tactic. But in this case, it is understandable. A rational observer would call the dance scenes in the movie inappropriate, excessive, gratuitous and just idiotic. It will also trigger the fatherly protective instinct. Women on the other hand, may be mostly outraged by the thought of a straw-man child molester watching it to get off, rather than the content itself. The content itself is not "child porn", despite the "reviews".
Cancel Netflix. Very few things on there worth watching anyway, in addition to all of their nefarious agendas.
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Via Reason...
https://twitter.com/reason/status/1305617073314299904
Contrary to What Ted Cruz Thinks, Prepubescent Twerking Does Not Make Cuties Illegal
The federal definition of child pornography does not encompass risqué dancing by clothed 11-year-olds.
Jacob Sullum | 9.14.2020
The French film Cuties, currently available on Netflix, has outraged American politicians who say it sexualizes prepubescent girls. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D–Hawaii), a former presidential contender, warns that Cuties, which depicts an 11-year-old's participation in a risqué dance troupe that flouts the values of her conservative Muslim family, "will certainly whet the appetite of pedophiles & help fuel the child sex trafficking trade." Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) goes even further, suggesting that Cuties is illegal. Whatever your take on the film's merits, Cruz presents no evidence to substantiate that claim.
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Except for Cruz's fact-free speculation about scenes that did not make it into the final movie, none of this supports his claim that Cuties qualifies as child pornography, which federal law defines as a "visual depiction" of "sexually explicit conduct" involving people younger than 18. While the definition encompasses "simulated sexual intercourse," that phrase is not broad enough to cover the scenes described by Cruz.
As the Supreme Court explained in a 2008 opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia, "'simulated' sexual intercourse is not sexual intercourse that is merely suggested, but rather sexual intercourse that is explicitly portrayed, even though (through camera tricks or otherwise) it may not actually have occurred." The Court added that "the portrayal must cause a reasonable viewer to believe that the actors actually engaged in that conduct on camera." Similarly, a 2008 rule issued by the Justice Department says "simulated sexually explicit conduct means conduct engaged in by performers in a visual depiction that is intended to appear as if the performers are engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct, and does so appear to a reasonable viewer."
Twerking by clothed 11-year-old dancers, however much it may trouble politicians and parents, plainly does not fit that description. Nor does the film's potential appeal to pedophiles transform it into contraband.
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More: https://reason.com/2020/09/14/contra...uties-illegal/
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It's not illegal. It is just disgusting.
It is an advertising front for child sex slavery. Orphans and foster kids.
People with connections talk with people with connections from cuties in hushed tones.
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Have to admit my above prediction about Prez Trump tweeting on this topic by last weekend have turned out to be wrong and pro Trump groups vocally joining the on going boycott campaign also not looking likely now if it hasn't happened so far.
Trump's inside circle, FLOTUS, FDOTUS, FSILOUS may have not seen this issue as politically important as social justice/BLM boycott campaign Trump had led.
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You know what I think would be a huge hit, if they could make a movie of it, or even a series?
A production on good parenting. I'm serious. There's a huge segment of society that wholly recognizes that we are reaping what we have sewn for letting our children run their own lives without any regard for consequences.
I literally watched the raw footage of this 100 times and I still have to watch the whole thing every time I hit play.
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Originally Posted by Philhelm
I don't think that watching the movie in its entirety should be a prerequisite unless the objective is to conventionally critique the movie. In this case, people are reacting to specific scenes within the movie. Of course, if he didn't see the scenes then his opinion is just hearsay.
People question that already. I think that the attention is garnered since there are actual, young children in the role of pretend pop divas. It wouldn't have received as much attention if the girls were, say, sixteen, despite still being children, but they decided to use eleven-year-old girls and have reaped what they have sown. The problem is that this particular type of pop culture media does affect young girls in a way that slasher films and Dungeons & Dragons (Satanic Panic) never have. Specifically, the former is an actual part of our culture whereas the latter is fantasy. Young girls are watching Cardi-B. They are twerking. They are having sex. They are being sexually abused by adults.And while this stupid film has generated more than it's share of controversy and hysteria, will it lead to any questions at all about our Kardashian/Cardi B stripper porn star culture that puts this up as role models for kids?
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I've seen a few of the scenes from the movie, and while I wouldn't go so far to state that it is softcore child porn, I do think the movie rises to child exploitation and warrants the scorn. I also think that the public "witch hunt" is a perfectly "libertarian" solution here.
The problem with the movie is that it pushes the envelope for an increasingly apparent agenda in which taboos against pedophilia are being subverted. This is a war that we cannot lose. Today it's an eleven-year-old girl dry humping for the camera, tomorrow it will be an eight-year-old boy bobbing his head in the lap of a sixty-year-old man. When it comes to degenerates, the slippery slope is not a fallacy, and the real alarm should be when this sort of thing does not receive a negative reaction.
"I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
-Stannis Baratheon
Looks like she falls into the thought crime camp. "I don't like it, but child molesters will like it, so it must be banned." "Male gaze" and every male guilty until proven innocent.
Also interesting is the "bare breast" rumor. When she watched it, in context, she said, ok that's an adult who did that. No big deal. Then she hears the bare boob outrage by people like Ted Cruz, who says it was one of the kids breasts, and she believes that instead of what she saw with her own eyes? That's strange. It was an older girl, and not one of the main characters. It was a video the kids watched on the internet. One of the "bad influences" portrayed in the movie.
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So many people talk about the intent and statements of the director, and reviewed the movie in it's entirety, if one wants to judge that, they need to see the full evidence in context. My conclusion: it's a bad movie, with unacceptable dancing from underage kids.
And many people who haven't seen it or even any clips have strong opinions. Very hysterical. Can we all agree that actual child porn is bad, evil and should be illegal? Absolutely. But to label this specific movie without even seeing any of it reeks of witchhunt.
Yep. Priorities are out of whack, as usual. So much popular culture fed to these kids is bad, and it's everywhere, not just this movie. Then again, the creator of the movie claims that is what she is addressing.People question that already. I think that the attention is garnered since there are actual, young children in the role of pretend pop divas. It wouldn't have received as much attention if the girls were, say, sixteen, despite still being children, but they decided to use eleven-year-old girls and have reaped what they have sown. The problem is that this particular type of pop culture media does affect young girls in a way that slasher films and Dungeons & Dragons (Satanic Panic) never have. Specifically, the former is an actual part of our culture whereas the latter is fantasy. Young girls are watching Cardi-B. They are twerking. They are having sex. They are being sexually abused by adults.
Agree.I've seen a few of the scenes from the movie, and while I wouldn't go so far to state that it is softcore child porn, I do think the movie rises to child exploitation and warrants the scorn. I also think that the public "witch hunt" is a perfectly "libertarian" solution here.
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Well, it's funny, but I'd say it falls into the "cause of the problem" category.
In a stereotypical old fashioned nuclear family, the mother's main tool is "wait till your father gets home". It's more threats than actual violence (not that there are not violent fathers, but in general). In some single mother homes, the mothers engage in violence at every turn. It desensitizes the kids to violence, and it teaches them that it is the first option to be used.
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This is exactly what bothers me about the film. They're incrementally trying to normalize this $#@!. I think it started when I was a kid (back then my mom bitched about how children's clothes were too mature) and now take a walk through the girl's underwear aisle and take a look at the sexy panties they're selling. It's disgusting.
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Netflix is indicted on criminal charges in Texas for 'promoting lewd visual material depicting a child' over its decision to stream controversial French film 'Cuties'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ench-film.html
Cuties, directed by French-Senegalese Maďmouna Doucouré, is on Netflix now
The film tells the story of an 11-year-old Muslim girl in a poor suburb of Paris
She joins a dance troupe, where they recreate videos they see on social media
The director says it's her own story, and warns about sexualization of children
Critics, led by Senator Ted Cruz, say it is inappropriate and offensive
On September 23 a grand jury in Texas indicted Netflix for lewd content
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Since the Obamas are working with Netflix, they should be indicted as well since they obviously played a huge role in all this.
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Netflix INDICTED for Cuties - Lawyer Explains - Viva Frei Vlawg
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Media vs. the People: The War over Pedophilia
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...edophilia.html....
Unfortunately, it's not just entertainment companies that promote pedophilia; Big Tech does it, too. Last year, to the public's dismay, Twitter changed its rules to accommodate pedophiles: "Discussions related to child sexual exploitation as a phenomenon or attraction towards minors are permitted, provided they don't promote or glorify child sexual exploitation in any way." And in 2018, Facebook startled users when it published a "stomach-churning survey that asked readers whether pedophiles should be allowed to solicit 'sexual pictures' from underage girls." After an outcry from the public, Mark Zuckerberg admitted that publishing the survey had been a "mistake." Facebook has been accused of failing to remove exploitative images of children and hosting a "Pedophiles Are People" page.
A landmark in the pro-pedophilia campaign was a 2014 editorial in the New York Times, "Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not A Crime." Other articles from high-profile media outlets followed, painting a sympathetic portrait of pedophilia as a challenging quirk that should be accommodated. Example from the Independent: "Not all pedophiles are bad people — we need to have a sense of proportion." The author explained, "In my studies of the Paedophile Information Exchange in the 1980s, many members admitted sexual feelings for children which they had been able to contain or turn to social good. Some gravitated toward occupations such as schoolteacher or social worker, where they could enjoy the company of children without plotting abuse. This fitted with personality profiles indicating that they were gentle, rational and not disposed to harm anybody."
After promoting the idea that pedophiles deserve special sympathy, the press campaign introduced the insidious concept that children are capable of consent. (Teen Vogue: "Video Shows Toddlers Understand Consent.") From there, the campaign inevitably moved on to bitter accusations against right-wing haters who find the practice objectionable. See Newsweek's "Why Is the Alt-Right Obsessed with Pedophilia?" and Salon's "I'm a pedophile, you're the monsters: My week inside the vile right-wing hate machine." In other words, if you don't accept the sexual exploitation of children, you're the problem.
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Quite sad that pedophiles will eventually be grouped together with the LGBT community. It's definitely happening at an alarming rate.
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I was wrong in my prediction about Trump tweet on this but there are other repercussions:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lm-Cuties.htmlNetflix subscriptions plummeted and cancellations increased by 800% after the release of controversial French film Cuties, analytics firm reveals
- Streaming giant Netflix announced weak third quarter earnings earlier this week
- Company added just 2.2 million global subscribers, falling short of expectations
- Two analytics firms said cancellations surged after release of French film Cuties
- Cuties, which debuted on September 9, is about 11-year-old girls' dance troupe
- The group learns sexualized choreography in preparation for dance competition
- Director denies claims that the movie promotes 'hyper-sexualization of children'
- Film's release sparked anger as well as calls for a boycott of streaming service
- A Texas grand jury indicted Netflix for 'broadcasting lewd material' in the state
- Republican and Democratic lawmakers demanded Netflix remove the film
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