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    Bang. Hit the nail on the head.

    What a crock of $#@!. Someone sees white people in an obscure area of the planet suffering and they assume they should be given priority over everyone else with no regard to history. "Maybe we should help fund and support these industrious white capitalists start a white capitalist abrahamic revolution and save them from the onslaught of the black ****** communist pagan peoples since they have obviously helped the country by creating communists out of them in the first place not that that matters". You wanna help the Boers then do it for them as individuals.
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    anyone being threatened with genocide should be a concern, wtf ?

    are you an idiot or what ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamp View Post
    bang.

    What a crock of $#@!. Someone sees white people in an obscure area of the planet suffering and they assume they should be given priority over everyone else....
    Get lost, if we are going to take in refugees it might as well be those that are closest to our culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Horse_Rider View Post
    anyone being threatened with genocide should be a concern, wtf ?

    are you an idiot or what ?
    Nobody should be a concern. But somehow a minority of people feel as though that they should. Those ships used to bring them over surely won't be government owned will they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Get lost, if we are going to take in refugees it might as well be those that are closest to our culture.
    I think most people here agree that the government should stay out of it, but if we are going to help refugees with monetary support or by relocating them here, it makes more sense to give monetary support to those refugees who have greater cultural differences and if we are going to take in refugees it makes more sense to bring in ones who have fewer cultural differences.

    It costs a lot less to support refugees in their home country, it costs about 10% as much as bringing them here and supporting them.

    Now, giving whites in SA money is not incredibly helpful when their government is confiscating their land and they are being slaughtered en masse due to their race.

    Additionally, since they have fewer cultural differences, bringing them here would mean that many would be able to get work and support themselves and their family more easily so it wouldn't be a huge expense to bring them here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Secularism is hostility to religion, throwing the ten commandments (the cultural foundation of our legal system) out of court houses and tearing down war memorials with crosses was never part of our culture or what the founders intended.
    I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but the ten commandments have absolutely nothing do with our nor any other modern, western legal system. Read them. Only two of those ten commandments exist in our own legal code, and those laws were first thought of long before judaism was a thing. The establishment clause prevents public funds going towards respecting an establishment of religion. The tax money of non-religious people or people of other religions should not be going towards 10 commandment displays. Roy moore and his ilk really need to get $#@!in lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but the ten commandments have absolutely nothing do with our nor any other modern, western legal system. Read them. Only two of those ten commandments exist in our own legal code, and those laws were first thought of long before judaism was a thing. The establishment clause prevents public funds going towards respecting an establishment of religion. The tax money of non-religious people or people of other religions should not be going towards 10 commandment displays. Roy moore and his ilk really need to get $#@!in lost
    You tell him. People that want to shove their dicks in other people faces through public demonstrations ought to get a $#@!IN hobby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think most people here agree that the government should stay out of it, but if we are going to help refugees with monetary support or by relocating them here, it makes more sense to give monetary support to those refugees who have greater cultural differences and if we are going to take in refugees it makes more sense to bring in ones who have fewer cultural differences.

    It costs a lot less to support refugees in their home country, it costs about 10% as much as bringing them here.

    Now, giving whites in SA money is no good when their government is confiscating their land and they are being slaughtered en masse.
    I agree, as I said I would rather have a 10 year immigration freeze but if we are going to bring in refugees the Boers are really in danger and they are a closer fit with our culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think most people here agree that the government should stay out of it, but if we are going to help refugees with monetary support or by relocating them here, it makes more sense to give monetary support to those refugees who have greater cultural differences and if we are going to take in refugees it makes more sense to bring in ones who have fewer cultural differences.

    It costs a lot less to support refugees in their home country, it costs about 10% as much as bringing them here and supporting them.

    Now, giving whites in SA money is not incredibly helpful when their government is confiscating their land and they are being slaughtered en masse due to their race.

    Additionally, since they have fewer cultural differences, bringing them here would mean that many would be able to get work and support themselves and their family more easily so it wouldn't be a huge expense to bring them here.
    How are you going to bring them over here again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamp View Post
    How are you going to bring them over here again?
    Like I said, I think most people here agree the government should stay out of it, but if there are going to be people coming here on boats, planes, or whatever, then let's be selective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but the ten commandments have absolutely nothing do with our nor any other modern, western legal system. Read them. Only two of those ten commandments exist in our own legal code, and those laws were first thought of long before judaism was a thing. The establishment clause prevents public funds going towards respecting an establishment of religion. The tax money of non-religious people or people of other religions should not be going towards 10 commandment displays. Roy moore and his ilk really need to get $#@!in lost
    Taking down religious displays in courts is probably item #183,493 in a list of things I disagree that government does that I would be concerned with.

    I would say bearing false witness could be related to fraud, which the courts handle. Also, a marriage agreement may contain language that adultery is not committed. Divorce and family courts will considered whether adultery was committed.

    Some of the commandments often lead to things that are against the law.

    But you are correct that courts should not use the 10 commandments as a criminal prosecution manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamp View Post
    Nobody should be a concern. But somehow a minority of people feel as though that they should. Those ships used to bring them over surely won't be government owned will they?
    Maybe people being threatened with genocide are not a concern to you. . . they are to me and to many others who actually have a sense of human decency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Horse_Rider View Post
    Maybe people being threatened with genocide are not a concern to you. . . they are to me and to many others who actually have a sense of human decency
    Which people threatened with genocide?

    The Buddhist chakma people of eastern bangladesh are far more at risk and get little to no media coverage. Oooooh wait their not white Christians or Syrians so they don't get first priority. All of a sudden me not wanting to subsidize overseas white christian immigrants simply for the fact of them being what they are like the majority of people who advocate for this adventure such as the wannabe politicians of youtube makes me a bad person. If you wanna $#@! on my opinion that using a group of people for cultural enrichment is wrong then I don't buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamp View Post
    Which people threatened with genocide?

    The buddhist chakma people of eastern bangladesh are far more at risk and get little to no media coverage. Oooooh wait their not white christians or syrians so they don't get first priority.......

    Charity begins at home, we shouldn't be taking in refugees beyond a our immigration quotas but if we are going to we get to choose those who are closest to our culture, buddhist countries can take in the buddhist chakma people of eastern bangladesh if they want.

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    Well it is too bad that the Chakma have been used by Hillary and friends to try to destabilize Myanmar. . .

    but I will take the medias track record for what it is. . . selective reporting. . . only giving coverage to certain issues that will sway public opinion and policies to their favor and agendas/

    I and many others here have been very outspoken against the unjust wars started in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, and so many other places. . . and hope that we solve the root of the problem and not devolve into a Kalergi-esque type society that is planned by the worlds elite banking cartels
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    I didn't ask for your opinion Sword Swallower. A "get lost jerk" I definitely am according to your 3rd grade vocabulary but you are far worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Horse_Rider View Post
    Well it is too bad that the Chakma have been used by Hillary and friends to try to destabilize Myanmar. . .

    but I will take the medias track record fro what it is. . . selective reporting. . . only giving coverage to certain issues that will sway public opinion and policies to their favor and agendas/

    I and many others here have been very outspoken against the unjust wars started in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, and so many other places. . . and hope that we solve the root of the problem and not devolve into a Kalergi-esque type society that is planned by the worlds elite banking cartels
    That's the Rohingya people. The Chakmas are Buddhists in Bangladesh. The Rohingya are muslims in Myanmar. you got them mixed up.
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    right, thanks for correction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamp View Post
    I didn't ask for your opinion Sword Swallower.
    It's my thread so you get my opinions whether you like it or not.
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    nothing new here I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamp View Post
    nothing new here I suppose.
    Thanks for keeping the thread bumped.

    Petitions:

    https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder
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    eeyup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamp View Post
    eeyup


    I saw this video and I immediately thought of u. Anyway, posted to cheer the mood around here up, bump the thread (please sign the petition) and say hi to my friend Lamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post


    I saw this video and I immediately thought of u. Anyway, posted to cheer the mood around here up, bump the thread (please sign the petition) and say hi to my friend Lamp.
    I read all of Naruto but I don't really consider myself a big fan of the show. I'm really more of a Hunter Hunter fan. thanks anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I agree, as I said I would rather have a 10 year immigration freeze but if we are going to bring in refugees the Boers are really in danger and they are a closer fit with our culture.
    Because they're, lemmee guess....white? Pretty sure the Boers are not too familiar with our culture.

    And, I have no problem helping them, if it be possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Because they're, lemmee guess....white? Pretty sure the Boers are not too familiar with our culture.

    And, I have no problem helping them, if it be possible.
    Stop with the race baiting, they are the descendants of Europeans who had a strong Christian, liberty, frontiersman culture similar to ours and much closer than the "refugees" they would replace.

    Race may correlate with culture in many instances (for obvious familial reasons) but it is culture I care about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Stop with the race baiting, they are the descendants of Europeans who had a strong Christian, liberty, frontiersman culture similar to ours and much closer than the "refugees" they would replace.

    Race may correlate with culture in many instances (for obvious familial reasons) but it is culture I care about.
    Didn't YOU just "race-bait" me on the Iranian thread?

    And the culture you care about is a huge mixture of many cultures/races/ethnic types- and I've always liked that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Didn't YOU just "race-bait" me on the Iranian thread?
    I warned that you might be accused of racism as a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    And the culture you care about is a huge mixture of many cultures/races/ethnic types- and I've always liked that.
    I'm glad you recognize it.
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    It's weird that VDare is pushing this. They're supposed to be anti-immigration, and for keeping America American.

    What is it about bringing these white South Africans to the US that fits with that mission?

    Shouldn't they be against welcoming these refugees just like they're against welcoming all the other refugees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I warned that you might be accused of racism as a joke.


    I'm glad you recognize it.
    My reply to you here & on the Iran thread was sarcasm- sorry if it didn't come across.
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