Senate votes to block Trump's emergency declaration

[timosman]

No, it's an honest question. Which one?

None that I can tell. He did it on the down-low.

[Superfluous Man]

None that I can tell. He did it on the down-low.

OK. Maybe that would be a good topic for a different thread.

[timosman]

OK. Maybe that would be a good topic for a different thread.

I must have missed this wasn't about money.

[Superfluous Man]

I must have missed this wasn't about money.

You must have missed pretty much the entire discussion if you thought just any random post that said something about money would contribute to it.

[timosman]

You must have missed pretty much the entire discussion if you thought just any random post that said something about money would contribute to it.

So Trump should just spend the money off the books and call it a day?

[Superfluous Man]

So Trump should just spend the money off the books and call it a day?

Not contrary to how it was appropriated by Congress, if he wants to keep his oath of office.

[Stratovarious]

I must have missed this wasn't about money.

It's not about money, oh yea its about money but only if Trump wants to
spend it, if Obama spent it then it; ''depends on what the meaning of is is.''

and '' who's on 1st'' , no ''who's on 2nd'' /

[Stratovarious]

You must have missed pretty much the entire discussion if you thought just any random post that said something about money would contribute to it.

No , you missed the entire conversation , Obama had NUMEROUS 'emergencies' they weren't 'FREE' ,
yes, you missed the entire conversation, or pretended too, which is more believable.

Open Border utopia is just around the corner, no matter that it doesn't work, we have to
try it so ; '' we can see what's in it'' .

[Superfluous Man]

No , you missed the entire conversation , Obama had NUMEROUS 'emergencies' they weren't 'FREE' ,
yes, you missed the entire conversation, or pretended too, which is more believable.

Open Border utopia is just around the corner, no matter that it doesn't work, we have to
try it so ; '' we can see what's in it'' .

Can you point to any evidence that he spent money from the treasury contrary to how it was appropriated by law in any of his national emergencies?

[acptulsa]

Can you point to any evidence that he spent money from the treasury contrary to how it was appropriated by law in any of his national emergencies?

Holding your breath?

[Superfluous Man]

Holding your breath?

I don't know why I bother. There's something oddly entertaining about it though.

[acptulsa]

I don't know why I bother. There's something oddly entertaining about it though.

You must be a Jerry Lewis fan. Or the Three Stooges, perhaps?

[Stratovarious]

Can you point to any evidence that he spent money from the treasury contrary to how it was appropriated by law in any of his national emergencies?

Herpes much ?


Obama used is kids college fund right...........''evidence...spent out of Treasury''


'evidence'

[Stratovarious]

Not contrary to how it was appropriated by Congress, if he wants to keep his oath of office.

You forget to mention this to Obama?

[Superfluous Man]

You forget to mention this to Obama?

How do you figure?

[enhanced_deficit]

Some uplifting news:

Pentagon finds $12.8 billion it could use to fund President Trump’s border wall

[unknown]

Then they pass legislation to remove emergency powers so the next Dem president can't do it.

That would be sweet.

Whats the constitutionality of these so called emergency powers?

[unknown]

Ron Paul and Rand Paul telling you the truth trigger your narcolepsy?

That explains a lot.

He loves anything anti Ron and Rand.

Hates anything anti Trump.

[Swordsmyth]

That would be sweet.

That is what Congress should do.

Whats the constitutionality of these so called emergency powers?

Debatable, the Constitution doesn't specifically prohibit Congress from delegating powers to the President.

[Swordsmyth]

He loves anything anti Ron and Rand.

Hates anything anti Trump.

That is a lie.

[unknown]

That is a lie.

I dont know about that.

Now I owe you 2 negs (note to self).

[Swordsmyth]

I dont know about that.

Then you shouldn't level accusations you aren't sure of.

Now I owe you 2 negs (not to self).

You earned them.

[unknown]

I dont know about that.

Now I owe you 2 negs (not to self).

While you say some valid things in support of liberty, youre a Trumptard first and foremost.

You should be endlessly negged directly up your butt.

[Swordsmyth]

While you say some valid things in support of liberty, youre a Trumptard first and foremost.

LOL

You should be endlessly negged directly up your butt.

[timosman]

While you say some valid things in support of liberty, youre a Trumptard first and foremost.

You should be endlessly negged directly up your butt.

Do you bottom?

[acptulsa]

He loves anything anti Ron and Rand.

Hates anything anti Trump.

I've noticed that.

I dont know about that.

Now I owe you 2 negs (not to self).

One of them is covered.

[unknown]

Do you bottom?

Nah bro.

I got this non-NFA non-GCA non-complaint firearm that shoots neg rounds.

This way I can zero in on his bunghole from a 100+ yards (no gayness).

[unknown]

One of them is covered.

I appreciate it.

That having been said, Operation Negs Up Swordsmyth's Bunghole is still in full effect.

[dillo]

That would be sweet.

Whats the constitutionality of these so called emergency powers?

It's never been challenged but I don't know what part of the constitution it would violate, congress in theory could still repeal the law and take control of emergency powers. However lets say congress does that and takes emergency powers away from the president, if we come under attack the president still has the power as the commander in chief. I don't think its too far fetched to say he would still have some authority at the border.

[Superfluous Man]

It's never been challenged but I don't know what part of the constitution it would violate

Trump is claiming that his emergency powers allow him to draw funds from the treasury contrary to their appropriation by law. Many here have parroted that claim (although none have been able to find any legal basis for it, constitutional or not).

If this claim is true, and Congress has passed a law saying that the president can draw funds from the treasury contrary to how they have been appropriated by law, then the part of the Constitution that law violates is found in Article 1, Section 9.7:

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law

Of course, the Supreme Court can't be counted on to take the Constitution at face value. But if the president took his oath of office seriously, he would refuse to draw funds from the Treasury except in consequence to appropriations made by law, and he would recognize that no law passed by Congress could ever give him the authority to do that, since such a law would be unconstitutional.