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  1. #121
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    It would be poetic justice to see the five eyes frame Amash for being a mole for Palestinian terrorists, then have media blast him non stop for it for two years, and then when he said " this is a witch hunt and a hoax" see him thrown in prison for 20 years for obstruction by some weaselly little lawyer snit.



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    the best part would be a dossier paid for with taxpayer money that said he payed gay strippers to poop on jimmy carters bed before he screwed them.
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  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Sure he didn't believe it, but he believed in it enough to think the Meuller report was worth a damn. He believed in it enough to never once condemn it for the frame job witch hunt it was. He believed in it enough to claim there were grounds for impeachment based on the flimsiest of excuses, flimsier than a fart on a sailboat.
    Yeah, if the foundation is a lie, I don't see how anyone can get terribly animated over any truths that are built upon it. Dems and the MSM have really been non-stop badgering this president from the moment he got into office hoping for a "gotcha!"-moment. Typical Antifa-type tactics.

    There are A LOT of matters of substance to take issue with, but of course those don't get air-time, because they might cause real non-partisan agreement, which would be bad for TPTB.

    As much as Amash is patting himself on the back about what a great non-partisan he is, he really stuck his foot into a whole wash tub full of partisan bull****.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Yeah, if the foundation is a lie, I don't see how anyone can get terribly animated over any truths that are built upon it. Dems and the MSM have really been non-stop badgering this president from the moment he got into office hoping for a "gotcha!"-moment. Typical Antifa-type tactics.

    There are A LOT of matters of substance to take issue with, but of course those don't get air-time, because they might cause real non-partisan agreement, which would be bad for TPTB.

    As much as Amash is patting himself on the back about what a great non-partisan he is, he really stuck his foot into a whole wash tub full of partisan bull****.
    actually, most democrats are not calling for impeachment. This is beyong partisanship.

  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Dude- we are already post capitalism. Real capitalism is free trade, freedom to operate a business as you would wish, and real money.

    All the rabble about socialism/communists etc is a ruse to keep us all fighting with each other while the last vestige of liberty blows away. Everyone is so indoctrinated & so in the Matrix that they fight to keep their prison walls secure, w/o a clue where they really are.
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  7. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Sure he didn't believe it, but he believed in it enough to think the Meuller report was worth a damn. He believed in it enough to never once condemn it for the frame job witch hunt it was. He believed in it enough to claim there were grounds for impeachment based on the flimsiest of excuses, flimsier than a fart on a sailboat.
    Quit commenting when you don't know wtf you're against. It has nothing to do with what YOU think he believed about the report. It isn't about that. It's about obstruction occurring or not.

  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Swordsmyth thinks that originalism permits nationalization of the internet under the Post Office.
    That's a lie.
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  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    With all due respect, so far the 14 boot lickers of big government in this poll are:
    AngryCanadian, bubbleboy, cruzrulez, euphemia, fcreature, floridave, kahless, Mach, mrsat_98, spudea, Stratovarious, susano, Swordsmyth, UWDude

    Because Amash votes extremely pro liberty doesn't matter. He went after Trump and by golly no one goes after our guy. Why don't everyone of you go back to England and get in a circle jerk with King George. And then die in your sleep. Amen.
    I'm not going to waste my limited money on a candidate who is committing political suicide, I might have supported him if he stayed a Republican but he might as well have just resigned by endorsing the idiotic treasonous "obstruction" charges and then leaving the party.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  11. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm not going to waste my limited money on a candidate who is committing political suicide, I might have supported him if he stayed a Republican but he might as well have just resigned by endorsing the idiotic treasonous "obstruction" charges and then leaving the party.
    Understood, money should go to where it will be most efficient, but support includes other things besides money.

  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That's a lie.
    Your record of truth-telling and straightforward honesty speaks for itself.

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Sure he didn't believe it, but he believed in it enough to think the Meuller report was worth a damn. He believed in it enough to never once condemn it for the frame job witch hunt it was. He believed in it enough to claim there were grounds for impeachment based on the flimsiest of excuses, flimsier than a fart on a sailboat.
    amashole is aligned with bill kristol now. says a lot.

  14. #132
    Its been awhile since Ive been on the forums. Just wanted to say that i hope Amash does well.

    Some people seem to think Republicans grew a spine since Trump. They didn't. They just serve a new master now, and he is the peak of establishment. They are purging the party of people with half a brain that think for themselves. And even when they fail, the wounds prove fatal in the general.

    Amash was already screwed with the way things were going, before the call for impeachment. But I hope that somehow, with all this, he can drag a trump-suckler with him. Maybe Trump himself.

    Dont get me wrong, im tried of TDS. Alot of the Trump hate is overblown, and im tired of the anonymous sources in the New York times and other outlets. Its not journalism. But im also tired of TDDS. Conservatives and Libertarians are letting him off the hook, because they like how angry he makes the liberals and he throws us a bone once in awhile. Or maybe they like the wall.

    But im not going to hold my tongue for that. Give 'em all hell Amash!

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by farrar View Post
    Its been awhile since Ive been on the forums. Just wanted to say that i hope Amash does well.

    Some people seem to think Republicans grew a spine since Trump. They didn't. They just serve a new master now, and he is the peak of establishment. They are purging the party of people with half a brain that think for themselves. And even when they fail, the wounds prove fatal in the general.

    Amash was already screwed with the way things were going, before the call for impeachment. But I hope that somehow, with all this, he can drag a trump-suckler with him. Maybe Trump himself.

    Dont get me wrong, im tried of TDS. Alot of the Trump hate is overblown, and im tired of the anonymous sources in the New York times and other outlets. Its not journalism. But im also tired of TDDS. Conservatives and Libertarians are letting him off the hook, because they like how angry he makes the liberals and he throws us a bone once in awhile. Or maybe they like the wall.

    But im not going to hold my tongue for that. Give 'em all hell Amash!
    Pretty much my POV.
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  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    Quit commenting when you don't know wtf you're against. It has nothing to do with what YOU think he believed about the report. It isn't about that. It's about obstruction occurring or not.
    Exactly.
    There is no spoon.

  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Your record of truth-telling and straightforward honesty speaks for itself.
    Yes, it does.
    And so does your record of lies.

    You can't back up your lie or you would have.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  18. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzrulez View Post
    amashole is aligned with bill kristol now. says a lot.
    cruzrulez makes things up about Amash. says a lot. Amash hasn't changed from his small government philosophy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    cruzrulez makes things up about Amash. says a lot. Amash hasn't changed from his small government philosophy.
    I'm not making it up, have you been paying much attention lately? here's a link for you
    If amashole is so principled, he'd disavow kristol - but he doesn't.

    "All honor to Justin Amash, who has done so much today to set an example of constitutional responsibility and mature, civic discourse," Kristol reacted on Twitter at the time.

  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by cruzrulez View Post
    I'm not making it up, have you been paying much attention lately? here's a link for you
    If amashole is so principled, he'd disavow kristol - but he doesn't.

    "All honor to Justin Amash, who has done so much today to set an example of constitutional responsibility and mature, civic discourse," Kristol reacted on Twitter at the time.
    Ahhh.

    And who is this Cruz who supposedly rulez?

  22. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzrulez View Post
    I'm not making it up, have you been paying much attention lately? here's a link for you
    If amashole is so principled, he'd disavow kristol - but he doesn't.

    "All honor to Justin Amash, who has done so much today to set an example of constitutional responsibility and mature, civic discourse," Kristol reacted on Twitter at the time.
    Why disavow Kristol when he doesn't support many of the same things Amash does? Amash has to clarify that? Why? It's poser mentality. Why does Amash need to disavow the klan? Because a klansman donated?

    Amash is still for small government. He hasn't changed. You have.

  23. #140
    Amash is going to be better than any politician funded by globalist neocon Adelson ( although risk in increasing that MAGA won't be getting funding from his top donor in 2020 after UK blunder).

    But in terms of experienced leadership, does GOP have alternate sound, small gummit, libertarian minded leadership if neocons sponsored MAGA indded did not win nomination for 2020?

  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by cruzrulez View Post
    amashole is aligned with bill kristol now. says a lot.
    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    cruzrulez makes things up about Amash. says a lot. Amash hasn't changed from his small government philosophy.
    A conservative group is running ads in Rep. Justin Amash's congressional district urging voters to show support fohim after Amash became the only GOP lawmaker in Congress to back impeachment for President Donald Trump.

    The group Republicans for the Rule of Law, which is headed byTrump critic and former Weekly Standard founder and editor Bill Kristol, is airing two ads on the Fox News show "Fox & Friends" in the Grand Rapids market for the next two days.

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...th/1501263001/
    FJB

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