Obama Wiretapped Trump at Trump Tower Prior to Election

[PatriotOne]

This whole thing seems like a high stakes poker game. Obama and Trump are calling and are going all in. If Obama is found with his fingerprints on this and gets prison time, there will be a civil war started by the left. Every socialist dominated enclave will be lit ablaze.

Remember Obama's war on the police and Trump declaring the war on police is over? Wonder which side the rank and file police forces are going to take in this civil war. lol

Though the corrupt chief police like in New York and D.C. will be on the side of the Obama/Clinton clan. Maybe the rank and file need to take them out first.

[bunklocoempire]

Vote hard, or Fonzie won't nail the jump.

[PatriotOne]

If Obama is found with his fingerprints on this and gets prison time, there will be a civil war started by the left. Every socialist dominated enclave will be lit ablaze.

At least this time us American taxpayers won't be paying them to riot. Remember the slush fund Obama was using to pay groups like Black Lives Matter, etc.? Gone. They'll have to reach into their pockets if they want to pay the anarchist/extreme liberal groups to riot this time.

[PatriotOne]

At least this time us American taxpayers won't be paying them to riot. Remember the slush fund Obama was using to pay groups like Black Lives Matter, etc.? Gone. They'll have to reach into their pockets if they want to pay the anarchist/extreme liberal groups to riot this time.

Majority of rank and file police force on Trumps side..check.
Majority of military rank and file on Trumps side...check.
2nd Amendment gun owners on Trumps side...check.

What could go wrong liberals?

I don't worry about them.

I worry about the armed sleeper terrorist cells inbedded in the U.S. And I worry about forces like Nato and UN Peacekeeper forces. Not sure who controls them.

Anyone know if there has been a high turnover of high ranking/Obama inbedded generals in the field?

[Zippyjuan]

Russian phones regularly tapped and recorded. Does not mean Trump Towers was bugged.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/u...tion.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump, including his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, current and former senior American officials said.

The continuing counterintelligence investigation means that Mr. Trump will take the oath of office on Friday with his associates under investigation and after the intelligence agencies concluded that the Russian government had worked to help elect him. As president, Mr. Trump will oversee those agencies and have the authority to redirect or stop at least some of these efforts.

It is not clear whether the intercepted communications had anything to do with Mr. Trump’s campaign, or Mr. Trump himself. It is also unclear whether the inquiry has anything to do with an investigation into the hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s computers and other attempts to disrupt the elections in November. The American government has concluded that the Russian government was responsible for a broad computer hacking campaign, including the operation against the D.N.C.

The counterintelligence investigation centers at least in part on the business dealings that some of the president-elect’s past and present advisers have had with Russia. Mr. Manafort has done business in Ukraine and Russia. Some of his contacts there were under surveillance by the National Security Agency for suspected links to Russia’s Federal Security Service, one of the officials said.

[nikcers]

• This whole thing seems like a high stakes poker game. Obama and Trump are calling and are going all in. If Obama is found with his fingerprints on this and gets prison time, there will be a civil war started by the left. Every socialist dominated enclave will be lit ablaze.

  If you think Obama is some political power player and not a puppet then you are still following Trump around smelling his farts.

[Valli6]

Just saw a clip of Judge Napolitano from this morning on fox news. He says Obama wouldn't need a warrant, or even a wiretap. He could just ask the NSA to send a transcript of the already-digitally-captured calls ... and it would be technically legal.

“Because of the unique interpretation of a Ronald Reagan executive order… and because of the language of the USA Freedom Act,” Napolitano explained. “The NSA now has ability to capture in realtime the digital copies of everybody’s phone calls, cell and landline, everybody’s key strokes, mobile device and desktop.”

“The NSA works for the president. If the president were to ask for a transcribed copy of any of that, they’d give it to him,” he continued. “The President of the United States can order surveillance on any person inside the United States in conjunction with a certificate or a certification filed by the attorney general.”

“In my view it’s profoundly unconstitutional but it is legal because of the statue,” Napolitano stated. “Think about this, if you’re Barack Obama, and you have the ability by making a phone call to hear what Donald Trump is saying, are you going to bother to get a warrant?”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/06/na...is-legal-video

Isn't the Freedom Act a bit of Ted Cruz's handiwork?

I hope this makes Trump see the light about NSA spying!

[CPUd]

Just saw a clip of Judge Napolitano from this morning on fox news. He says Obama wouldn't need a warrant, or even a wiretap. He could just ask the NSA to send a transcript of the already-digitally-captured calls ... and it would be technically legal.



Isn't the Freedom Act a bit of Ted Cruz's handiwork?

I hope this makes Trump see the light about NSA spying!

Yes, he will realize he can use the NSA to spy on all the people on his list.

[navy-vet]

Yes, he will realize he can use the NSA to spy on all the people on his list.

Assuming they will
cooperate.

[enhanced_deficit]

Not a Media/Obama fan but is Trump being true cruel here?
While everyone should be naturally concerned over such a development but agony of media is quite palpable since Trump tweet.. some leftwing neocons on the verge of tears:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xOHgkK0pkA

[CPUd]

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/stat...44497102155777

[PatriotOne]

Not a Media/Obama fan but is Trump being true cruel here?
While everyone should be naturally concerned over such a development but agony of media is quite palpable since Trump tweet.. some leftwing neocons on the verge of tears:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xOHgkK0pkA

OMG.....love how she's blaming Trump for all the turmoil after it has been the press attacking him 24/7, and calling to overthrow him by fanning the flames of Rusia Rusia Russia......and now that Obama been caught wiretapping Trump, she's really scared and nervous. It's all Trumps fault? No pity here you traitors.

[Jamesiv1]

Trump has a lot of money, and money will buy you things that you cannot get without a lot of money.

I can't imagine he would fire off that tweet without some solid evidence.

Unless he wants to get impeached, and I don't think he does.

[enhanced_deficit]

OMG.....love how she's blaming Trump for all the turmoil after it has been the press attacking him 24/7, and calling to overthrow him by fanning the flames of Rusia Rusia Russia......

She can be a drama queen, that probably brings ratings to the show.


In other news, this blog type source though seems more credible than fakenews sites like CNN, NYT but have not validated all quotes:








Josh Earnest Refuses To Deny That A Wiretap Of Trump Was Authorized

March 5, 2017

Josh Earnest was on ABC’s This Week and was interviewed by Martha Raddatz.

RADDATZ: We know about that denial from President Obama and the law as well. As President Obama’s former speechwriter, Jon Favreau, your former colleague, tweeted: “I’d be careful about reporting that Obama said there was no wiretapping. Statement just said that neither he nor the White House ordered it.”
Can you categorically deny that the Obama Justice Department did not seek and obtain a FISA court order?
EARNEST: What I can categorically deny, Martha, is that the White House was at all involved in directing or interfering or influencing an FBI investigation of any sort.
RADDATZ: That’s not what I’m asking. What I’m asking is, can you deny that the Obama Justice Department did not seek and obtain a FISA court-ordered wiretap of the Trump campaign?
EARNEST: It was a cardinal rule — here’s the simple answer to that question, is, Martha, I don’t know. And it’s not because I’m no longer in government. The fact is, even when I was in government, I was not in a position of being regularly briefed on an FBI criminal or counterintelligence investigation.
The White House — no one at the White House, including the president of the United States, should be in a position in which they’re trying to influence or dictate how that investigation is being conducted.
RADDATZ: Do you to know with whether the president was ever given information about surveillance at Trump Tower?
EARNEST: What I can tell you — well, first of all, I’m not aware of all of the details of how the president was briefed by the FBI. But what I can tell you is the president was not giving marching orders to the FBI about how to conduct their investigations. He was not asking for regular updates on FBI investigations.
And let me just stipulate one more time, you have to ask the FBI whether there actually is an investigation into Mr. Trump, his associates, his campaign. That’s for them to talk about. That is not something that was talked about or directed or managed by the White House, because this is a cardinal rule. These are rules that have been in place since Watergate, and for good reason.

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017...mp-authorized/






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[UWDude]

I hope this makes Trump see the light about NSA spying!

Why would it. Now the power is Trumps. And the democrats will moan and whine, but everytime, there will be that pesky precedent where Obama did it. So if Obama can collect information on his political foes, why not Trump?

No wonder Mika is so scared now. They all should be. This is going to be a wonderful purge.

[Contumacious]

Russian phones regularly tapped and recorded. Does not mean Trump Towers was bugged.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/u...tion.html?_r=0

This former British lawmaker is at the heart of the Trump wiretap allegations




LONDON — A former British legislator is at the heart of the Trump administration’s explosive allegation that President Barack Obama was spying on him during the 2016 campaign.


But who exactly is Louise Mensch?

For starters, the politician-turned-journalist is the writer behind an article published on the eve of the election titled: “EXCLUSIVE: FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ Covering Trump Camp’s Ties To Russia.”

In her report, published Nov. 7, Mensch said the FBI was granted a FISA court warrant in October “giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.”


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[Origanalist]

[enhanced_deficit]

On a sidenote, Obama's spox has issued a statement.
Does anyone know, do all ex-Presidents have spox and are they taxpayers funded?

Or Obama uses privately funded spox due to special circumstances like these?

Most Americans see Obama as Dishonest, Untrustworthy

[UWDude]

Remember when all the secret hillary lovers were saying Trump would lose. remember we were telling them the polls were rigged? Remember we were telling them there is a difference between reality and perception? And that reality would eventually hit? Our reality smashed theirs to little bits, and smashed up their little egos too. They blustered and blustered and were wrong.

Then they blustered about Russia. Russia Russia Russia, all that smoke and mirrors must have meant there was a fire. I told them reality is coming. The law is coming. One will be outed as a conspiracy theory, and one will be revealed as a conspiracy. And then, the russia conspiracy theory will be part of a bigger conspiracy.

And wikileaks releases the password for vault 7 tomorrow, at 9 EST. The files are being downloaded as we flame.

What goodies then? What whistleblower stepped forward this time?

[UWDude]

On a sidenote, Obama's spox has issued a statement.
Does anyone know, do all ex-Presidents have spox and are they taxpayers funded?

You mean is this spokesman slush funded or legally funded? Either way, they surely are taxpayer funded.

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

If such a wiretap existed, it would have came from a FISA warrant, meaning Donald or someone in his inner circle like Flynn was the subject of an investigation. It would have come from FBI/DOJ

This is a false statement.

Was there a court order when the Watergate was bugged?

We know from Snowden et al that the NSA has the entire country wiretapped. Clapper or one of his minions need only flip a switch to listen in.

Your ridiculous, asinine claim is akin to saying it's impossible to turn a corner without first using your turn signal. (It's not, FYI.)

Hope this helps.

[CPUd]

This is a false statement.

Was there a court order when the Watergate was bugged?

We know from Snowden et al that the NSA has the entire country wiretapped. Clapper or one of his minions need only flip a switch to listen in.

Your ridiculous, asinine claim is akin to saying it's impossible to turn a corner without first using your turn signal. (It's not, FYI.)

Hope this helps.

Watergate was not bugged, it was burglarized.

Hope this helps.

[UWDude]

Want to know a little bit more about the way power works?

Well first off, let me be clear: Trump has solid evidence. He is showboating now. He is waiting for people to make denials. Loretta Lynch is going to have to say something soon.

If she doesn't... ...he can hang it over her head for months, maybe even years.

The democrats were bluffing when they said they had evidence Trump had ties with Russia. And as I explained before, Trump knew this, because... ...he had no ties to Russia. So even though the democratic machine believed their own lies... ...he didn't.

But Trump isn't bluffing. I assure you.

Neva gamble wit a man name Trump, my pa'd wayz says.

[UWDude]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/838298128419852288

Obama has a history of tapping & hacking his friends and rivals https://wikileaks.org/nsa-201602/ #NSA #PRISM #Merkel #Sarkozy #BanKiMoon #WTO #Trump

[CPUd]

https://twitter.com/tlamb775/status/838951307041878016

https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/sta...52582328483840

[Ender]

The Doctor’s Plot: Now A Re-Run
Jack Perry


Okay, well, I guess I’ll say it. While everyone is cheering Trump tweeting out that Obama tapped his phone or whatever, I see something a bit more troubling about that. That being, why is he doing this? He won the election. What difference does it make now? To what end should taxpayer dollars be wasted on a Congressional investigation for which he has no proof? This can only be one of two things.

The first thing it could be is preschooler behavior of tit-for-tat. Or a smokescreen to try and hide the rather growing evidence that his staff might have been playing footsies with the Russkies. Which would make him the election fraudster, not the Democrats, Obama, and the alleged millions of illegal voters. After all, had there really been so much fraud on their part, he’d have lost the election.

But the second possibility is something far more troubling. That being, Trump is exhibiting very paranoiac behavior. People were, and are, “out to get him”. What I see with this out-of-the-blue “Obama tapped my phone” is something very similar to the “Doctor’s Plot” that a very paranoid Stalin thought was against him back in the day. We cannot have this kind of paranoia in a president, I’m sorry. It’s paranoia like this that results in wars launched on paranoid suspicions. And with Trump virtually in control of the entire government except the judicial branch, this is a very real possibility. But what’s more likely is what paranoid leaders do more often than not—Turn the paranoia inward to perceived internal enemies.

Which means this: Say he thinks there’s a plot in the United States to launch several simultaneous terrorist attacks. He could declare a state of national emergency, perhaps martial law, perhaps troops on the streets, who knows? What if he thinks several members of Congress and the Senate are committing crimes simply because they opposed him and orders investigations and arrests? What if he passes executive orders mandating internal passports to travel within the United States? And background checks to obtain one? How about a loyalty oath? The death penalty for burning the flag? People better wake up. Another paranoid government built the Berlin Wall. And we’re building our own wall and people are cheering that, too.

People that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Then it goes into syndication and becomes the norm. If Obama is to be investigated, it should be about what the involvement was with the anti-Assad forces the United States was backing in Syria. Not some ridiculous personal vendetta. But paranoia doesn’t work that way. And we’re only a little over a month into this game. Today it’s Obama. Who will it be tomorrow? No one ever thinks it won’t be them next on the “enemies of the people” list. And let’s not forget that Trump used that very phrase: “Enemy of the people” in talking about the press. A phrase that came right out of the Soviet Union of Stalin.

You can check my articles here and see I’ve been critical of Obama since I started. Obamacare is a scam and Syria is a disaster his administration created. But once we start heading down this road of legitimizing paranoid behavior, regardless of whether we like the targeted person or not, it always ends up that everyone is targeted by the regime. I’m not the one warning of where this leads. History is.

11:47 am on March 6, 2017 Email Jack Perry

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...ot-now-re-run/

[unknown]

All of this seems like some kind of a smoke screen, making an issue of "warrants".

Like our government uses warrants.

We know theyve been conducting warrant-less spying, recording and monitoring all electronic communications without warrants.

But forget all that, lets focus on the incredibly small % of requests rubber stamped by FISA...?

[CPUd]

GOP refuses to back Trump's wiretap claim

Several Republican senators said the president again stepped on his messaging with an unfounded accusation.

By BURGESS EVERETT and JOHN BRESNAHAN 03/06/17 06:58 PM EST Updated 03/06/17 07:11 PM EST

President Donald Trump will have to look somewhere besides Republican-controlled Capitol Hill for backup to his explosive and unsubstantiated charge that former President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower before the election.

Trump was reportedly incensed Sunday that Republicans didn’t defend his allegations on the Sunday shows — in fact, several pointedly refused to lend Trump a lifeline when pressed. And more than 48 hours after the initial allegation, Republicans in Congress remained mostly mum as the controversy flared and threatened to create a lingering distraction for them as they try to pass major legislation in the coming weeks.


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan offered no comment on the matter. And some of the chief critics of the Obama administration on Capitol Hill said they were aware of no evidence to support Trump’s claim.

“Boy. I have no idea,” said Sen. John Thune of South Dakota, appearing puzzled. “I mean, I don’t know what’s behind it. I’m hoping in the next few days we’ll find out,” said Thune, the chamber’s third-ranking Republican.

It was perhaps the most vivid example of Trump’s “tweet first, ask questions later” policy damaging the fortunes of the congressional GOP. Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.) said the lesson for the president should be that some notions are best left unsaid.

“There’s something called the unexpressed thought, which would probably aid the president well,” Roskam said.

...

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ongress-235740

[UWDude]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...ot-now-re-run/

Trump will have a paper trail. It is Jack Perry who is being paranoid.

[juleswin]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...ot-now-re-run/

Wow, that came from Lewrockwell.com? Did Lew and all the other Trump dickridders take a vacation? I don't quite agree with everything he said especially the one possibility that this tirade is to hide some nefarious connection with the Russians. The man and his admin is straight up anti Russia top to bottom.