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I will soon be taking applications for tryouts for my personal militia . There will be no citizenship badges .
Do something Danke
I was never a boy scout but I knew people who were. Even in Kentucky Mormons were heavily involved in the local organization.
Stop believing stupid things
I was a scout and I learned that there were some troops that were more active than others. One I was in did little more than meet in a Church basement weekly and a couple weeks at a summer camp per year, and that was about it. Others, had camp outs regularly in all the seasons, went to jamborees and had enthusiastic leaders who had sons in the troop and spared no expenses making sure we were kept safe and comfortable in Winter or Summer. That one was in Northern Ohio and the camps were awesome. Our excursions to Lake Erie were also fantastic. I learned more about woodsmanship, comradery, and being a man, during the couple years in that troop than at anytime else in my life.
Last edited by navy-vet; 05-22-2018 at 07:30 PM.
Citizenship and nationalism/statism are two entirely different things. Yes of course there was a nationalistic element, but that was not the majority of the program I was in by a long shot. If I had been in a troop tied to a military base then it might have been different, but not where I was at, and not where most others were too.
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There are no crimes against people.
There are only crimes against the state.
And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.
https://www.biographyonline.net/huma...en-powell.html
It's well known that Baden-Powell started the whole thing as a means of grooming boys for military service. That's not really in dispute.During the Boer War, Baden-Powell wrote a Guide to Scouting. This was published in 1903 and was a best-seller. Initially meant for military purposes, after the war, he felt it could be used as a focus for young boys to give them more meaning in life. This led to the creation of the Scout Movements.
One can say it morphed into giving "them more meaning in life", and as long as one recognizes that the point was to give them meaning via military service (i.e., being a better vassal of the state) then one is being honest.
But here's something I didn't know and I'm betting you didn't either...
Baden-Powell also held some pro-fascist sympathies. He read Mein Kampf in 1939 and said there were some good ideas in it. He also admired the Italian dictator Mussolini.
I mean, this is another thing like the whole "there's no good cop" argument... all the pieces are right there, you just have to be willing to put your conditioning aside, open your eyes, and see them.
There are no crimes against people.
There are only crimes against the state.
And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.
Yeah, the virtue of submitting to the nanny state. That is typically how brainwashing works, mix what you already know to be good with the bad until you can't tell the difference.
Funny, I didn't see any mention of a "lefty pervert takeover" in the Church's official announcement. They do talk about how they have been working on a program for years now that will allow local leaders to customize the teen programs to the needs of their local youth.
For years, Church leaders have been preparing a new initiative to teach and provide leadership and development opportunities to all children and youth, to support families and to strengthen youth everywhere as they develop faith in the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. This new approach is intended to help all girls and boys, young women and young men discover their eternal identity, build character and resilience, develop life skills and fulfill their divine roles as daughters and sons of God. The initiative is designed to allow local leaders, families and even the young people themselves to customize their efforts, while providing service opportunities and activities, fostering healthy relationships and supporting communities. Details will be shared at childrenandyouth.lds.org as the implementation date approaches.
https://www.lds.org/church/news/chur...youth?lang=eng
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Oh, Pierz, you're such an ideologue!
You couldn't put your ideology to the side for just a moment in order to make a fun experience for the boys?
Sad.
See, this is why ideology is poison. Blinding, toxic poison. It endarkens everything in your life, if you let it. Don't let it. Cut the cord. Take off the glasses and see the world. Just see it. Without a filter you have to put everything through.
Your Rigid, Extreme Ideology =/= The Truth.
But even if it did, come on! Couldn't you just say to yourself, "Congratulations, me, on knowing the truth about everything! Now let me lay that aside just for a couple hours, just once a week"? In order to make a great, meaningful experience for some boys very much in need of it? Who are, in the rest of their lives, trapped in a sick, degenerate matriarchy that abhors all fun and all boys.That's just my take. But hey, we all gotta have our priorities. Maybe when your life is done, the Libertarian God -- I hear it looks suspiciously like Ayn Rand -- will reward you for your loyalty. She'll hand you a gold bar and a cigarette that never burns out.
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