UC Berkeley cancels Milo Yiannopoulos event amid violent protest (RIOT) - 2/1 - LIVE

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

But Puritanism would shame to uphold work ethic and family unity. Progressivism seems nearly the opposite.

Puritans would also believe in God and Jesus, but progressives, in general, do not.

It has to do with memetic deconstruction. The protestants deconstructed the hierarchy of the Holy See in the name of Christ. This process continued until eventually, they deconstructed the family, the bible and Christ himself in the name of the ethics they inherited from Christianity (unbeknownst to them, for the most part).

[UWDude]

Mencius Moldbug's whole argument is that puritanism is the memetic antecedent to modern leftist progressivism. It really isn't hard to understand why.

One of my professors argued the same, he said catholic values are what drive the liberal desire to see social human progress.

[anaconda]

Puritans would also believe in God and Jesus, but progressives, in general, do not.

It has to do with memetic deconstruction. The protestants deconstructed the hierarchy of the Holy See in the name of Christ. This process continued until eventually, they deconstructed the family, the bible and Christ himself in the name of the ethics they inherited from Christianity (unbeknownst to them, for the most part).

Well spoken and intriguing. I shall look into this.

[A. Havnes]

He didn't say women have low IQs, they actually have slightly higher IQs on average than men. However there are less women with IQ over 120 than men, because the bell curve for IQ is much wider for men than women.. So there are a lot more men with higher IQs, and a lot more men with lower IQs, women tend to hover around the middle more. That's why you have a lot of homeless men, and men going to space and $#@!.

It's not about stereotypes, it's about data and facts.

And another thing.. Milo likes having sex with men. He is gay, ok? It's not just that women drive him away, he actually likes having sex with men. Straight men who MGTOW play video games and jack off to women or find one for the occasional hookup.

And whites also tend to score higher on IQ tests. Your conclusion must be that whites are just smarter people than blacks.

The greatest fallacy with people who choose to use the IQ argument is that the IQ test is quite subjective, and Alfred Binet himself said his tests do not measure cognitive capabilities outright, as such a thing just can't be measured according to Binet. It also doesn't help Milo's case that IQs, in general, are rising, whereas you'd think they'd be relatively stable if IQ tests simply measure a person's ability.

As the education gap closes, so doe the IQ scores. It's called the Flynn Effect.

According to Forbes:

In the last 100 years the IQ scores of both men and women have risen but women’s have risen faster. This is a consequence of modernity. The complexity of the modern world is making our brains adapt and raising our IQ. Improvement is more marked for women than for men because they were disadvantaged in the past.”

Milo is a guy who enjoys hearing himself talk, even if it's about things he doesn't really understand. He has a right to talk, and I have the right to disagree.

However, that still doesn't mean that you should try and burn down a campus because he's your excuse to riot.

[A. Havnes]

But Puritanism would shame to uphold work ethic and family unity. Progressivism seems nearly the opposite.

It seems to me that the outcome is different, but the methods are very similar. As for what that outcome is, it seems to contradict a lot.

A world in which everyone is respected for who he is, and isn't limited by race, sex, or orientation is a nice utopia to strive for, but it doesn't seem to be what these guys ultimately want.

They want a world in which they can be self-righteous bullies, kind of like that South Park episode where Butters is being bullied by his grandmother, and everyone who tries to stop bullies winds up being a bully himself!

[Valli6]

First covered by The Ralph Report

A UC Berkeley Rioter Has Been Exposed, & He’s a University Staff Member!
By Ethan Ralph published February 3, 2017 - updated February 6, 2017
http://theralphretort.com/uc-berkele...versity-203017

Ian Dabney Miller

Berkeley Antifa Attacker Unmasked As UC Employee? CNN and Young Turks Lookin’ So Dumb
Feb 3, 2017

Today, propagandists on the left attempted to change the narrative over the violent "Antifa" riots, suggesting that Trump supporters were secretly behind the group's spate of violent terrorist acts since the election:



Of course, the ultra-liberal, Armenian Holocaust denying, TalcumX hiring, "better than you" elitists - also known as "The Young Turks," started furiously parroting these Alisnsky tactics to cast doubt on just who keeps co-opting student protests and turning them violent..


(continued)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...ookin’-so-dumb

more confirmation:
02/06/2017

...A demonstrator who participated in the riot outside of Milo Yiannopolous’ scheduled talk at UC Berkeley last week has been identified as a university staff member.

Screengrabs passed around Twitter show tweets from an account with the handle @teen_archer talking about getting into a physical altercation with a Milo fan outside the event….

...A spokesperson for UC Berkeley told TheDC, “We are aware of the allegations involving a member of the University’s workforce. Our campus police force is currently working with the FBI in an ongoing investigation of this matter.”…

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/06/uc...y-staff-member

[dannno]

And whites also tend to score higher on IQ tests. Your conclusion must be that whites are just smarter people than blacks.

The greatest fallacy with people who choose to use the IQ argument is that the IQ test is quite subjective, and Alfred Binet himself said his tests do not measure cognitive capabilities outright, as such a thing just can't be measured according to Binet. It also doesn't help Milo's case that IQs, in general, are rising, whereas you'd think they'd be relatively stable if IQ tests simply measure a person's ability.

This is actually one of Molyneux's specialties so you are about to get it..

IQ is not a perfect measurement of intelligence, but it correlates well with intelligence, especially using larger data sets.

There are a lot of people out there who say the reason whites score better than minorities is because of cultural differences.. O'rly??? Then maybe you can explain why asians score higher than whites, and why ashkenazi Jews score the highest? (~100, ~108, ~120). Asians score better than whites because of cultural differences??

And maybe you can also explain why IQ correlates with income? Asians tend to make more than whites, ashkenazi Jews tend to make the most money.

The point is you can whine and snivel all you want about IQ scores not being a perfect measure of intelligence, and that is somewhat true for some individuals but the fact is it is a pretty good measure especially across large data sets.

[Ender]

This is actually one of Molyneux's specialties so you are about to get it..

IQ is not a perfect measurement of intelligence, but it correlates well with intelligence, especially using larger data sets.

There are a lot of people out there who say the reason whites score better than minorities is because of cultural differences.. O'rly??? Then maybe you can explain why asians score higher than whites, and why ashkenazi Jews score the highest? (~100, ~108, ~120). Asians score better than whites because of cultural differences??

And maybe you can also explain why IQ correlates with income? Asians tend to make more than whites, ashkenazi Jews tend to make the most money.

The point is you can whine and snivel all you want about IQ scores not being a perfect measure of intelligence, and that is somewhat true for some individuals but the fact is it is a pretty good measure especially across large data sets.

Meh- it's about test taking.

I can pass the bar- you want me to practice law for you? Didn't think so.

[agitator]

Interesting clip. I don't mean to offend the prolific Democrat posters here.

[dannno]

Meh- it's about test taking.

I can pass the bar- you want me to practice law for you? Didn't think so.

It's more than just test taking.. IQ correlates well with intelligence, it correlates with income. It also correlates with test taking. Again, when you have large groups of people taking the test it smooths out for things like people who are good at test taking or study for the IQ test.

[Ender]

It's more than just test taking.. IQ correlates well with intelligence, it correlates with income. It also correlates with test taking. Again, when you have large groups of people taking the test it smooths out for things like people who are good at test taking or study for the IQ test.

I know a lot of very smart people who cannot take a test.

[dannno]

I know a lot of very smart people who cannot take a test.

C'mon man, we've gone over this.

There are exceptions to the rule, but when you have a large data set all of these variables smooth out.

We already know when you have a large group of people, their IQ correlates to their intelligence and their income - and some other characteristics as well which are quite fascinating.

[Ender]

C'mon man, we've gone over this.

There are exceptions to the rule, but when you have a large data set all of these variables smooth out.

NO.

IQ tests are made for the Western way of thinking- test taking is a left-brain action- it does not take into account the right brain or the intelligence of the body. It simply means your left brain can take over. Many right brain dominates are geniuses but test taking is an incredible awkward and painful experience.

[dannno]

NO.

IQ tests are made for the Western way of thinking- test taking is a left-brain action- it does not take into account the right brain or the intelligence of the body. It simply means your left brain can take over. Many right brain dominates are geniuses but test taking is an incredible awkward and painful experience.

Western thinking - got it - that's why asians score higher than whites..

C'mon man, your argument is a total fail and you know it.

IQ tests tell us less about an individual because they are fallible, but they tell us a lot about a group. Are you familiar with statistics at all?

[Ender]

Western thinking - got it - that's why asians score higher than whites..

C'mon man, your argument is a total fail and you know it.

Asians do well in tests because they have mandatory music. Music connects the brain; number 1 major accepted to Med School is the Music Major.

Your IQ test superiority is a fail and YOU know it.

[heavenlyboy34]

Western thinking - got it - that's why asians score higher than whites..

C'mon man, your argument is a total fail and you know it.

IQ tests tell us less about an individual because they are fallible, but they tell us a lot about a group. Are you familiar with statistics at all?

Are you familiar with statistics aside from what you learned from Stef?

[dannno]

Are you familiar with statistics aside from what you learned from Stef?

Uh, ya, I've taken under graduate and graduate level statistics courses. I think I got a B+ and an A.

[dannno]

Asians do well in tests because they have mandatory music. Music connects the brain; number 1 major accepted to Med School is the Music Major.

Your IQ test superiority is a fail and YOU know it.

Hahahhah... ok.. so asians are smart and go to med school more often because they have mandatory music.

Why don't you go down to the ghetto, and teach music to all the kids, so they can grow up and be doctors?

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Asians do well in tests because they have mandatory music. Music connects the brain; number 1 major accepted to Med School is the Music Major.

Your IQ test superiority is a fail and YOU know it.

What evidence is there for this?

Regardless, it doesn't explain why IQ predicts things like future income and rates of violence. Is that because of music? This becomes more ridiculous when you realize that blacks are, by far, the most musical race there is.

[AZJoe]

Asians do well in tests because they have mandatory music. Music connects the brain; number 1 major accepted to Med School is the Music Major.

I don't believe that is accurate. The dominant major to med school is biological sciences.

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[heavenlyboy34]

What evidence is there for this?

Regardless, it doesn't explain why IQ predicts things like future income and rates of violence. Is that because of music? This becomes more ridiculous when you realize that blacks are, by far, the most musical race there is.

Source? Those of us who majored in any branch of music are lol-ing at this claim.

[dannno]

blacks are, by far, the most musical race there is.

Obviously you haven't heard tokimonsta (asian)

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Source? Those of us who majored in any branch of music are lol-ing at this claim.

Black music has revolutionized the musical world repeatedly, which is all the more incredible when you realize that much of it is based on spirituals sung by slaves. Black gospel, jazz, blues, doo-wop, rap. "Black music" (as a broad category) is more influential the world over than the music developed by any other race.

[dannno]

Black music has revolutionized the musical world repeatedly, which is all the more incredible when you realize that much of it is based on spirituals sung by slaves. Black gospel, jazz, blues, doo-wop, rap. "Black music" (as a broad category) is more influential the world over than the music developed by any other race.

hb likes boring ancient religious music. He really, really likes it though.

[Ender]

I don't believe that is accurate. The dominant major to med school is biological sciences.

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66% of music majors who apply, get into medical school. This is the highest percentage of acceptance for any major. However, this does not mean that 66% of all applicants are music majors.

The numbers on your chart shows the highest number according to applicants.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

66% of music majors who apply, get into medical school. This is the highest percentage of acceptance for any major. However, this does not mean that 66% of all applicants are music majors.

The numbers on your chart shows the highest number according to applicants.

Assuming that statistic is true, it doesn't actually indicate what you think it does.

[Ender]

What evidence is there for this?

Regardless, it doesn't explain why IQ predicts things like future income and rates of violence. Is that because of music? This becomes more ridiculous when you realize that blacks are, by far, the most musical race there is.

Here's a paper written by the AMC.

http://advocacyformusiced.weebly.com...d_you_know.pdf

And I am talking about music majors: the study and application of music theory etc. not just natural talent.

That said, I love "black" music- Jazz/R & B/Funk etc.

[timosman]

66% of music majors who apply, get into medical school. This is the highest percentage of acceptance for any major. However, this does not mean that 66% of all applicants are music majors.

The numbers on your chart shows the highest number according to applicants.

How to Lie with Statistics - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393310728/

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Here's a paper written by the AMC.

http://advocacyformusiced.weebly.com...d_you_know.pdf

And I am talking about music majors: the study and application of music theory etc. not just natural talent.

That said, I love "black" music- Jazz/R & B/Funk etc.

I'd have to actually look at all the studies, but none of this data actually vindicates your narrative. Even if we taught all children music and even if it increased their IQ, there's no reason to think the gaps wouldn't remain, considering how consistently observed they are and the heritability of IQ.

[AZJoe]

66% of music majors who apply, get into medical school. This is the highest percentage of acceptance for any major. However, this does not mean that 66% of all applicants are music majors.

I see. Googling the claim finds that it keeps referencing biologist Lewis Thomas, but does not reveal the actual report or data for the claim - how many, which years, etc.
Because the number of music major applicants to medical school is so minuscule, it is likely to be an aberration rather than a reliable predictor. And because the number of applicants is so tiny, those few music majors that actually strive to get into medical school are already likely to have some additional science aptitude or experience driving their desire to apply. Were a broad group of twenty thousand general music majors to apply each year, would two thirds of all medical students be music majors - displacing all the biology and science majors? That is unlikely. You cannot draw widespread conclusion from tiny anecdotal samples.