The elites made clear today that Trump was the guy they wanted.
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
Nah, they want the Clintons back. Trump is just how they get them.Originally Posted by CPUd
Yep and the average Republican voters do not give a damn. Come November they will not even be thinking about this or remember it since their worst case scenario is a Hillary Clinton Presidency.
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True colors are being shown on here tonight. The suspicion has been around all along, but all doubt is gone now.
The establishment was told to sit down and shut up and people on here are complaining about it.
Mike Lee is for sure. I don't know about the other guy.
Cruz backed TPP. Mike Lee backed Cruz.
Establishment.
its behind closed doors, and its brutal. i almost wish i was in Cleveland right now.
the easy and quick answer is that there are 2 or 3 groups inside the GOP who assume they are the party establishment.
right now, none of our people are going into this brouhaha with cudgels almost, spoiling for a fight. And to think the worst
thing that may happen at the DNC is that youthful activists are deciding to eat beans for a week, becuz they are going to
be seated next to Hillary's longtime party regulars. Even with air conditioners, this might be aroma city and then some!
"The "party" was already split. But, yes, they should have allowed a vote. Absolutely."
What would it have killed them to do so? If they had the votes to crush like they did on the Rule Committee, then it shouldn't have been a problem (maybe they didn't have all their ducks in a row, who knows?) They would have whipped their supporters in line in the same fashion. Romney would have crushed Paul four years ago, we all knew that. That wasn't the point. The point was to simply have a vote, period. Why Prebius demands these North Korea-like shows of party unity, I'll never know. But once again, he manages to drive more people away with his tactics than bring them in and that will be his legacy.
yessir.
The bigger government gets, the smaller I wish it was.My new motto: More Love, Less Laws
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/virg...te-delegations
Cuccinelli: Trump Camp Threatened To Take Iowa's First In Nation Status
CLEVELAND – Ken Cuccinelli, the former attorney general of Virginia and a major proponent of the stop Trump movement, claimed that the Republican establishment "cheated" Monday afternoon when it refused to give delegates a roll call vote on a convention rule that would have allowed delegates to cast a ballot for whoever they wanted on the convention floor.
In an interview with reporters on the convention floor Monday night, Cuccinelli accused the Trump campaign of threatening states that were pushing for the vote and went as far as to threaten to take away that state of Iowa's "first in the nation status," if the state delegation supported the move.
"They were threatening people. They did it in Virginia. They did it in Washington. They did it in D.C. They did it in Maryland. They did in Iowa," Cuccinelli said. "They threatened Iowa. ... The Trump campaign [said] 'we'll take away your first in the nation status."
Cuccinelli said Iowa Republican Party Chairman Jeff Kaufmann told him about the threat.
"Jeff Kaufmann told me that. Jeff Kaufmann said 'we're gonna loose our
first in the nation status. He came over here to harangue me," Cuccinelli said.
Jeff Kaufmann and the Trump campaign did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
While the Trump campaign had tried to downplay the floor scuffle on Monday afternoon, a roll call vote on the rule would have been deeply embarrassing and more clearly revealed the schism in the GOP.
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
That's up to the convention to decide. But there was ZERO reason not to allow a roll call vote.
Yes, that worked out so well for McCain and Romney LOL
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
You fail to grasp who some of these delegates are. And yes, they have enough influence, and given how they were publicly screwed today, they now have sympathy in their direction. Yes, this hurt the GOP big time.
You can't piss on people and then ask for their support.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Exactly, there was ZERO legitimate reason to not allow a roll call vote.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
http://bangordailynews.com/2016/07/1...on-rules-vote/ By Staff and wire reports, Special to the BDN
Posted July 18, 2016, at 6:47 p.m.
Last modified July 18, 2016, at 7:44 p.m.
CLEVELAND — Republican attempts to slow Donald Trump’s march to the presidential nomination failed on Monday afternoon — but not before chaos erupted on the Republican National Convention floor as a national audience watched.
A renegade group of delegates — including some from Maine — seeking to force a rules vote that would have embarrassed Trump backers and top GOP officials on the first day of their national meeting was rebuffed in a controversial voice vote, clearing the path for Trump to accept the nomination with no formal challenge.
But it prompted an outcry and triggered a disorderly sequence of events broadcast live on cable news networks and the convention’s official video feed, underscoring deep rifts that continue to plague the Republican Party during a week that was supposed to reflect unity.
Just after 4 p.m., the movement by anti-Trump forces to compel the convention to vote on a set of rules to formalize Trump’s nomination and begin laying out the guidelines for the 2020 elections was denied. While such a measure would have been unlikely to pass, it would have briefly empowered Trump’s foes and slowed the mogul.
“Roll call vote! Roll call vote!” angry delegates chanted, while Trump supporters sought to overpower them with chants of “Trump! Trump!” The Colorado delegation briefly walked off the floor.
Earlier in the day, former New Hampshire Sen. Gordon Humphrey came to the convention floor claiming to be holding a packet of documents with the requisite number of signatures of delegates from 10 states. The Never Trump PAC, a group coordinating the effort, placed Maine among nine delegations whose majority supported the roll call.
But at the podium, U.S. Rep. Steve Womack, R-Arkansas, said many withdrew from the anti-Trump effort, putting three states below a necessary threshold and invalidating the challenge.
Maine was one of those delegations, according to National Committeewoman Ashley Ryan of Portland.
Ryan, who hasn’t endorsed a candidate, but joined the challenge for a more “open” rules process, said the late change came after intense on-the-floor lobbying from the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee.
She said “large and burly men” pulled her aside to warn her that supporting a roll call would help elect Democratic presumptive nominee Hillary Clinton. Maine lost the required number of votes after staffers cornered five delegates, Ryan said, but it’s unclear who changed their votes.
Maine Senate Majority Leader Garrett Mason, a delegate pledged to U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, disagreed with the challenge, saying the convention should rally around the clear nominee.
“Ted Cruz isn’t running for president anymore. I’m sorry about that. I thought he was the best man for the job, but he didn’t make it,” he said. “The process is over, and we’re here to nominate Donald Trump.”
On the sidelines of the event, rifts within the party also were on display as Trump’s top backers aggressively disparaged leading Republicans who have declined to support the mogul for president.
Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort targeted Ohio Gov. John Kasich and the Bush family, who are skipping the convention, calling them “part of the past” and saying Kasich was “embarrassing his state” by skipping the convention.
For Cleveland, the convention will be a test of its ability to maintain order and safety at a time when tension and deadly violence have erupted between police and African-Americans across the country in recent weeks.
By midday, hundreds of anti-Trump activists had flooded Cleveland’s Public Square with chants and banners condemning the presumptive nominee. Many had walked from Chicago, and others traveled from as far as Texas.
“This isn’t a rally of the biggest names in the world,” said Mick Kelly, a member of the Coalition to Stop Trump and March on the RNC, “but there are real activists here with real struggles.”
BDN writer Michael Shepherd, along with Sean Sullivan, Peter Holley, Jenna Johnson, Louisa Loveluck, Ed O’Keefe, Karen Tumulty and Laura Vozzella of The Washington Post, contributed to this report.
“This isn’t a rally of the biggest names in the world,” said Mick Kelly, a member of the Coalition to Stop Trump and March on the RNC, “but there are real activists here with real struggles.”
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
My pronouns are he/him/his
Going after the Ohio GOP to demand unity was another dumb mistake:
Trump, Ohio GOP at war as Cleveland convention begins
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
Little 5 foot 4 Cory Gardner with his small thinking is leading the commie brigade from Colorado.
BOWLING GREEN, Kentucky – Washington liberals are trying to push through the so-called DREAM Act, which creates an official path to Democrat voter registration for 2 million college-age illegal immigrants.
Rand Paul 2010
Booker T. Washington:
Cast it down among the eight millions of Negroes whose habits you know, whose
fidelity and love you have tested in days when to have proved treacherous meant the ruin of your firesides.
Cory Gardner borrows cars from his friends, and returns them with the gas on 'E'.
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
They were the best choices out of the choices.
Weiner would have been great for the NYPD.
BOWLING GREEN, Kentucky – Washington liberals are trying to push through the so-called DREAM Act, which creates an official path to Democrat voter registration for 2 million college-age illegal immigrants.
Rand Paul 2010
Booker T. Washington:
Cast it down among the eight millions of Negroes whose habits you know, whose
fidelity and love you have tested in days when to have proved treacherous meant the ruin of your firesides.
Funny, I don't remember Mike Lee protesting in 2012 when the RNC similarly screwed over Ron Paul to help Bishop Romney.
Why do you think that is?
Priebus is not a conservative. He's a NWO'er. His job is to oversee the death of conservatism and the GOP. Bang up job he's doing too.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
there was not one candidate in the primaries that stood a chance other than rand or trump. For different reasons also.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
James Madison
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
Μολὼν λάβε
Dum Spiro, Pugno
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito
lol...I think you just described the system.
The wisdom of Swordy:
On bringing the troops home
On fighting corruption:
Fascism Defined
Why choose reps in Congress if they're just going to do the exact opposite of what you put them there to do?
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
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