Their foodstamps? [Immigrants Canceling Their Food Stamps over Fears of Being Deported]

[Ender]

Good, we have hard enough time taking care of our own. Government was not set up to be a charity.

Exactly.

NO ONE should be on .gov charity. People should be taken care of locally.

[Ender]

Wrong.

You however is a fake American.

Yer grammar ain't so good- yu mus be one a them illegal feriners.

[brushfire]

I wonder why they leave of the word, "illegal" out from the first part of that article. Seems like a legal immigrant wouldn't have any problem with being deported.

Its no wonder. People who favor illegal immigration are intellectually dishonest. Acknowledging the legal status would interfere with their deception. Besides, laws are discretionary. That's how it works - at least in some people's minds.

[pcosmar]

Lots of people who need these types of services are too embarrassed to ask especially at food banks. You'd be surprised the amount of people that would get a title loan or payday loan and go into debt over borrowing a cup of beans and rice from their neighbor or picking up a bag of food that was going to be thrown away from the food bank.

I missed the sarcasm there..

there should be a sarc tag on that.

edit;

NO one needs these "services".

[tod evans]

My huband has a green card. Going to visit family in Canada soon...I hope he gets back in.

Does your ol' man have the Canadian speech impediment that causes some to punctuate sentences with ehy?

[brushfire]

Lots of people who need these types of services are too embarrassed to ask especially at food banks. You'd be surprised the amount of people that would get a title loan or payday loan and go into debt over borrowing a cup of beans and rice from their neighbor or picking up a bag of food that was going to be thrown away from the food bank.

I missed the sarcasm there..

there should be a sarc tag on that.

edit;

NO one needs these "services".

Foodstamps are supposed to be humiliating. They're supposed to expose your situation, and they're not supposed to create comfort and "dignity". As a I child, I was on foodstamps. Our aid was a block of cheese, powdered milk, and a paint can of peanut butter. I never went hungry, and I'm grateful for that, but even as I child I knew the situation was going to be temporary while my mother pursued a career, and later purchased a house. Nobody wanted to be in that situation for very long.

Now days, government handouts are an expectation, and there is a false "dignity". Foodstamps and government aid should be a slightly better alternative to starvation and destitution. To provide more is to take away one's pursuit, pride, and drive to live a productive life. I know this because I cant hardly eat processed cheese or "creamy" peanut butter, to this day. Powdered creamer - forget about it.

[Brian4Liberty]

Washington Post rethinks headline about immigrants canceling their food stamps for fear of deportation

...
We probably would have overlooked food policy writer Caitlin Dewey’s contribution to the paper’s “Wonkblog” column Thursday, too, expect for people noticing a rather major change to the headline.

Bezos' @washingtonpost quickly changed this headline… doesn't want you to know illegals are on benefits paid by… you. pic.twitter.com/soDFn2Hput

— Julian Wan ���� (@juliangwan) March 16, 2017

The slug is still the original headline. This is #fakenews 101, @washingtonpost is a liberal smear tabloid. pic.twitter.com/pfWR6hFcJ6

— Julian Wan ���� (@juliangwan) March 16, 2017

So what was wrong with the original, “Immigrants are now canceling their food stamps for fear that Trump will deport them”? Maybe it’s that one word — “illegal” — which just never seems to fit in the confines of a newspaper’s headline or a Democrat’s 140-character tweet.

[Brian4Liberty]

...
According to the Department of Agriculture, 1.5 million non-citizens and 3.9 million children living with non-citizen adults received food stamps for the 2015 fiscal year.
...

But, we have been assured over and over that immigrants don't get any form of aid from government...

And the above stats do not include fraud.

[tod evans]

But, we have been assured over and over that immigrants don't get any form of aid from government...

And the above stats do not include fraud.

Racist!

[Brian4Liberty]

Foodstamps are supposed to be humiliating. They're supposed to expose your situation, and they're not supposed to create comfort and "dignity". As a I child, I was on foodstamps. Our aid was a block of cheese, powdered milk, and a paint can of peanut butter. I never went hungry, and I'm grateful for that, but even as I child I knew the situation was going to be temporary while my mother pursued a career, and later purchased a house. Nobody wanted to be in that situation for very long.

Now days, government handouts are an expectation, and there is a false "dignity". Foodstamps and government aid should be a slightly better alternative to starvation and destitution. To provide more is to take away one's pursuit, pride, and drive to live a productive life. I know this because I cant hardly eat processed cheese or "creamy" peanut butter, to this day. Powdered creamer - forget about it.

I have personally talked to food stamp (EBT) recipients who take great pride in purchasing the most expensive items, and laugh at the cashier's who are foolish enough to work.

[brushfire]

I have personally talked to food stamp (EBT) recipients who take great pride in purchasing the most expensive items, and laugh at the cashier's who are foolish enough to work.

There it is... How terribly unfortunate, but another example of how government basically ruins everything it touches - and always with the "best of intentions".

[tod evans]

There it is... How terribly unfortunate, but another example of how government basically ruins everything it touches - and always with the "best of intentions".

Think of the starving children!

[brushfire]

Think of the starving children!

I'd rather be thinking of starving politicians.

[tod evans]

I'd rather be thinking of starving politicians.

Notice how there's never any discussion on how many tax dollars are spent on the government required to give away all the free $#@!?

[brushfire]

Notice how there's never any discussion on how many tax dollars are spent on the government required to give away all the free $#@!?

Yea, interesting for sure. Why would anyone question the servants?

[tod evans]

Yea, interesting for sure. Why would anyone question the servants?

What's the average salary for a 'civil servant' ?

$50k

$75k

$100k

Cost of benefits?

How many are there?

This seems to be convoluted intentionally....

[phill4paul]

Notice how there's never any discussion on how many tax dollars are spent on the government required to give away all the free $#@!?

With all the talk of robots taking over jobs I would think that the administration of government would be a prime benefactor. I mean think about it. The majority of these jobs are nothing but number crunching, paper pushing, paper filing and information checking. A robot could even be programmed to have a cheerful personality.

[CPUd]

With all the talk of robots taking over jobs I would think that the administration of government would be a prime benefactor. I mean think about it. The majority of these jobs are nothing but number crunching, paper pushing, paper filing and information checking. A robot could even be programmed to have a cheerful personality.

Soon.

Blockchain technologies could transform government services

[brushfire]

What's the average salary for a 'civil servant' ?

$50k

$75k

$100k

Cost of benefits?

How many are there?

This seems to be convoluted intentionally....

There's a killer in there... They are laying off teachers in my school district. They are basing the layoffs on tenure, and not on performance - typical union driven decision making process. Anyhow, I was thinking, it would be awesome to start a private education institution that:

1. Trained its own teachers
2. Offered entry level, that included good ol fashioned "on the job" training
3. Provided benefits that are typical of the private sector (none of this 1/2 your salary for life sh!t)
4. Offered an outstanding curriculum for children, and was geared more towards the child's potential than the child's grade

This would alleviate the inflationary issues that government creates with their student loan and "everyone goes to college" BS.

It would align academia with the trades - not everyone needs a masters degree to teach 5 year olds their abc's, reading or writing may be within some children's potential, as with multiplication and devision (both of my kids are could read in kindergarten - both knew simple multiplication)

Hearing all this BS about how teachers are so under appreciated - how they are the lowest paid profession requiring a degree! There are so many incredibly talented adults out there. Many parents who care about their children are able to teach them the basics - even with out degrees...

I digress, but its the local issue du jour. The unions and the government have made education ridiculously expensive. Teachers of just 25 years ago did more with less - the whole thing is just a mess. Courtesy of government. Oh, and IL cannot afford to function - its starting to implode, failing to meet its commitments for educational funding.

[Carlybee]

Does your ol' man have the Canadian speech impediment that causes some to punctuate sentences with ehy?

No, but he pronounces pasta like past-a. As in rhymes with fasta. He tried to pronounce taco like tacko but I told him that was a hanging offense in Texas.

[silverhandorder]

Yer grammar ain't so good- yu mus be one a them illegal feriners.

Atleast I am not a fake American. You sound like a fake American.

[tod evans]

No, but he pronounces pasta like past-a. As in rhymes with fasta. He tried to pronounce taco like tacko but I told him that was a hanging offense in Texas.

Did ya' have to 'splain that the Ez-brothers take offense to being called 'Taco' unless you know 'em?

Yankees have some shortcomings........

[oyarde]

What citizenship should the children of one American and one non-American receive then? None?

To me it would make sense for a child born of any place to be a citizen of that place if one parent is , which I also believe was the original intent.

[oyarde]

No, but he pronounces pasta like past-a. As in rhymes with fasta. He tried to pronounce taco like tacko but I told him that was a hanging offense in Texas.

One of my best buddies was born in California . Both of his parents were Mexicans . They moved to the midwest when he was 5 . He has a dog named Chico . I told him it was offensive as he does not even speak Spanish , he just laughs .

[TheCount]

To me it would make sense for a child born of any place to be a citizen of that place if one parent is , which I also believe was the original intent.

Ah, I misunderstood. When you said 'both' I thought that meant that citizenship would not be conferred if either parent was not a citizen.

[Brian4Liberty]

There's a killer in there... They are laying off teachers in my school district. They are basing the layoffs on tenure, and not on performance - typical union driven decision making process. Anyhow, I was thinking, it would be awesome to start a private education institution that:

1. Trained its own teachers
2. Offered entry level, that included good ol fashioned "on the job" training
3. Provided benefits that are typical of the private sector (none of this 1/2 your salary for life sh!t)
4. Offered an outstanding curriculum for children, and was geared more towards the child's potential than the child's grade

This would alleviate the inflationary issues that government creates with their student loan and "everyone goes to college" BS.

It would align academia with the trades - not everyone needs a masters degree to teach 5 year olds their abc's, reading or writing may be within some children's potential, as with multiplication and devision (both of my kids are could read in kindergarten - both knew simple multiplication)

Hearing all this BS about how teachers are so under appreciated - how they are the lowest paid profession requiring a degree! There are so many incredibly talented adults out there. Many parents who care about their children are able to teach them the basics - even with out degrees...

I digress, but its the local issue du jour. The unions and the government have made education ridiculously expensive. Teachers of just 25 years ago did more with less - the whole thing is just a mess. Courtesy of government. Oh, and IL cannot afford to function - its starting to implode, failing to meet its commitments for educational funding.

I remember a time when teachers gladly accepted less annual pay because they got so much time off. Summers, Christmas, Easter, etc.

[Carlybee]

One of my best buddies was born in California . Both of his parents were Mexicans . They moved to the midwest when he was 5 . He has a dog named Chico . I told him it was offensive as he does not even speak Spanish , he just laughs .

One of my coworkers is married to a guy of Mexican descent who speaks no Spanish. He tells people he's Aztec, lol.

[Krugminator2]

But, we have been assured over and over that immigrants don't get any form of aid from government...

And the above stats do not include fraud.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/26...iel-greenfield

Actual government stat. 91.4% of Muslim refugees receive food stamps. The Tsarnaev brothers got over 100k in government largesse.

I don't get this radically open borders position Cato and Reason take. When did libertarians become welfare statists? And I don't get this whole equating every life on the globe with the lives of someone already in the US.

[Carlybee]

Did ya' have to 'splain that the Ez-brothers take offense to being called 'Taco' unless you know 'em?

Yankees have some shortcomings........

Heh...well it beats being called a beaner.

[tod evans]

Heh...well it beats being called a beaner.

The Mexicans I know prefer beaner....

But I don't whine when the refer to me as a 'Güero' either...