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    Solzhenitsyn Question: When Should You Resist?

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    We must ask ourselves this question and we must answer.

    November 27, 2020 Antifa/BLM, Constitution, Editorial/Opinion, Featured 3

    Solzhenitsyn Question: When Should You Resist?
    The Solzhenitsyn Question
    “At What Exact Point, Then, Should One Resist”

    Guest editorial by James Bennett

    “There is no safety for honest men, but by believing all possible evil of evil men, and by acting with promptitude, decision, and steadiness on that belief. I well remember, at every epocha of this wonderful history, in every scene of this tragic business, that, when your sophistic usurpers were laying down mischievous principles, and even applying them in direct resolutions, it was the fashion to say that they never intended to execute those declarations in their rigor.

    This made men careless in their opposition, and remiss in early precaution. By holding out this fallacious hope, the impostors deluded sometimes one description of men, and sometimes another, so that no means of resistance were provided against them, when they came to execute in cruelty what they had planned in fraud.” Edmund Burke, 1791[1]

    As the battle to maintain our Constitutional Republic intensifies, a question keeps popping up in my mind and in the mind of many of others that we must squarely resolve before moving forward. Some say that our attempts to reclaim and maintain our Constitutional Republic in the courts, through the legislature, by our relationships, with education, and at the ballot box may be in vain.

    Indeed, civic responsibility vs. authority is not even correctly understood in modern discourse. They argue that we have, as many civilizations before us, set ourselves on the path of judgment and destruction – so why waste our energy. Some others say the judgment has just started and some say that it is already upon us…and they may be right. And there are others, a happy, dedicated, weeping few, who are still fighting strategically even though the outcome looks grim.

    This has culminated in the great debate over how long Christians and Patriots will allow these attempts to overthrow our Constitutional Republic to go unchecked. We seem to be stuck at one point asking over and over but never answering the “Solzhenitsyn Question.”[2]
    “At what exact point, then, should one resist?”[3]

    Or perhaps it is better to ask two questions: “At what exact point, then, should one resist within the existing system?” and “At what exact point, then, should one resist violently?”

    The answer to the former question is already settled.[4] I have heard too many times to recall the famous mantra “now is not the right time to fight this issue.” However, it is the moral right and duty of an individual to resist the unlawful[5] and unjust policies of any governing body.[6]

    So let’s get to it, right now. Unalienable rights may only be lost through death or acquiescence.[7] The imposition of tyranny must be confronted at every step with all constitutionally available means if for no other reason than to prevent violence. This is done by the governing or the governed.

    With the governed, resistance commonly takes the form through what is known in Political Science as “Irish Democracy” or the civic authority to just not comply with pretend legislation[8] because it is against the laws of nature and nature’s God. During prohibition this was especially pronounced and can be seen today in various non-compliance movements surrounding ranching.

    With the governing, typically resistance takes the form nullification (non-recognition) or non-enforcement. Both doctrines are simply an extension of the requirements in the Oath of Office and the individual moral duty to disobey an “unlawful order.” It is also based on the simple principle that in our dual sovereignty (dual federalism) system the federal governing officials cannot be the final arbiters of whether their own actions are or are not constitutional. In this respect, federal and state elected officials and county sheriffs are bound by Article VI of the United States Constitution:

    “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution…”

    Consequently, Thomas Jefferson believed that by extension the governing officials of the states had a natural right nullify any laws they believed were unconstitutional. In the Kentucky Resolution of 1798 he wrote,

    “co-States, recurring to their natural right…will concur in declaring these acts void, and of no force, and will each take measures of its own for providing that neither these acts, nor any others of the General Government not plainly and intentionally authorized by the Constitution, shalt be exercised within their respective territories.”[9]

    Alexander Hamilton echoed this in Federalist Paper 85 “We may safely rely on the disposition of the state legislatures to erect barriers against the encroachments of the national authority.”[10]

    Non-enforcement occurs at the county level or even the city level again as an extension of upholding the oath of office. The county Sheriff is the senior law enforcement officer both in terms of rank and legal authority in a county. This comes from a tradition of over 1000 years of Anglo-Saxon common law. Anglo-Saxon communities were typically organized into “shires” consisting of approximately 1000 people.[11] The chief law enforcement officer of the shire was the “reeve” or “reef.” Hence, the modern combination of the two words, as we know them today, “shire reef” or “Sheriff.”[12]

    Consequently, the Sheriff’s pre-eminent legal authority is well established. This was correctly confirmed in Printz v. United States.[13] The late Justice Scalia quotes James Madison who wrote in Federalist 39:

    “In the latter, the local or municipal authorities form distinct and independent portions of the supremacy, no more subject, within their respective spheres, to the general authority, than the general authority is subject to them, within its own sphere.”[14]

    Furthermore no one is above the law…including federal agents and Antifa. Federal agents will claim they “have the authority, period.” Antifa claims some “moral authority.” This begs two great questions. How will a law passed at the federal level be enforced locally? And if no one stops Antifa’s rampages who will?

    Consequently, the laws we have are only as good as those officers that enforce them at the local level. Thus, the rise of tyranny must first come through both the United States Military and the County Sheriff. And this can only happen if those same people violate their oaths to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution and their own State’s Constitution.

    Today in Washington with the passage of I-1639, and other attempts at legislating gun control, Police Chiefs and Sheriffs are publicly stating their intent not to enforce these unconstitutional measures.[15] Non-enforcement was previously successful during the attempt by federal authorities to confiscate the firearms of a veteran in Priest River, Idaho.[16] The incident ended peacefully.

    However, what about when state and local elected officials are allowing marxist insurgents to commit crimes seemingly without consequence? In other words, what about when laws are not enforced which likewise brings about tyranny? With Antifa and other communist shock troops rioting unchecked in our country and threatening to move into rural areas it is the second question of Solzhenitsyn, which is so troubling to many, especially Christians. We must settle in our minds and our hearts right now the answer.

    “When one’s belt is taken away? When one is ordered to face into a corner? When one crosses the threshold of one’s home? An arrest consists of a series of incidental irrelevancies, of a multitude of things that do not matter, and there seems no point in arguing about one of them individually – especially at a time when the thoughts of the person arrested are wrapped tightly about the big question: ‘What for?’ – and yet all these incidental irrelevancies taken together implacably constitute the arrest.”

    He expounds on the idea further in a footnote:

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if…people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

    Then he concludes powerfully by writing “‘Resistance! Why didn’t you resist?’ Today those who have continued to live on in comfort scold those who suffered. Yes resistance should have begun right there, at the arrest itself. But it did not begin.” The failure to answer that question correctly and then act accordingly led to the untold deaths of tens of millions in communist regimes around the world.[17] Indeed in such scenarios, I am in fact my brother’s keeper.[18]

    And so most will find difficulty in this: violent resistance begins when anyone comes up the stairs to unjustly arrest our neighbors, destroy their property, attempt to physically harm them. Yet, there should not be difficulty at all in this because our Founding Fathers justified the entire Revolution on this principle.

    Recall April 19, 1775, where the British, after receiving orders to seize the weapons of the Massachusetts Militia and arrest Samuel Adams and John Hancock, marched on Lexington and Concord. At Lexington Green[19] Captain John Parker issued the famous command to his minutemen “Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.” The British fired the first shot of the Revolutionary War and we promptly reacted almost one year prior to the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

    At what exact point, then, should we resist? We have a duty to stop evil in the spiritual as Christians and likewise we have a duty to stop evil when it manifests in the physical. Christianity proclaims in Romans 12:18 “If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men.” This implies there is a point where peace is not possible. At that point, we must be prepared to act quickly to defend our homes and our families from those that seek to do us physical harm, destroy everything we hold dear, and overthrow our Constitutional Republic.

    Let us give thanks we have not had to do that yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Solzhenitsyn Question: When Should You Resist?

    https://redoubtnews.com/2020/11/solz...ld-you-resist/

    We must ask ourselves this question and we must answer.

    November 27, 2020 Antifa/BLM, Constitution, Editorial/Opinion, Featured 3

    Solzhenitsyn Question: When Should You Resist?
    The Solzhenitsyn Question
    “At What Exact Point, Then, Should One Resist”

    Guest editorial by James Bennett

    “There is no safety for honest men, but by believing all possible evil of evil men, and by acting with promptitude, decision, and steadiness on that belief. I well remember, at every epocha of this wonderful history, in every scene of this tragic business, that, when your sophistic usurpers were laying down mischievous principles, and even applying them in direct resolutions, it was the fashion to say that they never intended to execute those declarations in their rigor.

    This made men careless in their opposition, and remiss in early precaution. By holding out this fallacious hope, the impostors deluded sometimes one description of men, and sometimes another, so that no means of resistance were provided against them, when they came to execute in cruelty what they had planned in fraud.” Edmund Burke, 1791[1]

    As the battle to maintain our Constitutional Republic intensifies, a question keeps popping up in my mind and in the mind of many of others that we must squarely resolve before moving forward. Some say that our attempts to reclaim and maintain our Constitutional Republic in the courts, through the legislature, by our relationships, with education, and at the ballot box may be in vain.

    Indeed, civic responsibility vs. authority is not even correctly understood in modern discourse. They argue that we have, as many civilizations before us, set ourselves on the path of judgment and destruction – so why waste our energy. Some others say the judgment has just started and some say that it is already upon us…and they may be right. And there are others, a happy, dedicated, weeping few, who are still fighting strategically even though the outcome looks grim.

    This has culminated in the great debate over how long Christians and Patriots will allow these attempts to overthrow our Constitutional Republic to go unchecked. We seem to be stuck at one point asking over and over but never answering the “Solzhenitsyn Question.”[2]
    “At what exact point, then, should one resist?”[3]

    Or perhaps it is better to ask two questions: “At what exact point, then, should one resist within the existing system?” and “At what exact point, then, should one resist violently?”

    The answer to the former question is already settled.[4] I have heard too many times to recall the famous mantra “now is not the right time to fight this issue.” However, it is the moral right and duty of an individual to resist the unlawful[5] and unjust policies of any governing body.[6]

    So let’s get to it, right now. Unalienable rights may only be lost through death or acquiescence.[7] The imposition of tyranny must be confronted at every step with all constitutionally available means if for no other reason than to prevent violence. This is done by the governing or the governed.

    With the governed, resistance commonly takes the form through what is known in Political Science as “Irish Democracy” or the civic authority to just not comply with pretend legislation[8] because it is against the laws of nature and nature’s God. During prohibition this was especially pronounced and can be seen today in various non-compliance movements surrounding ranching.

    With the governing, typically resistance takes the form nullification (non-recognition) or non-enforcement. Both doctrines are simply an extension of the requirements in the Oath of Office and the individual moral duty to disobey an “unlawful order.” It is also based on the simple principle that in our dual sovereignty (dual federalism) system the federal governing officials cannot be the final arbiters of whether their own actions are or are not constitutional. In this respect, federal and state elected officials and county sheriffs are bound by Article VI of the United States Constitution:

    “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution…”

    Consequently, Thomas Jefferson believed that by extension the governing officials of the states had a natural right nullify any laws they believed were unconstitutional. In the Kentucky Resolution of 1798 he wrote,

    “co-States, recurring to their natural right…will concur in declaring these acts void, and of no force, and will each take measures of its own for providing that neither these acts, nor any others of the General Government not plainly and intentionally authorized by the Constitution, shalt be exercised within their respective territories.”[9]

    Alexander Hamilton echoed this in Federalist Paper 85 “We may safely rely on the disposition of the state legislatures to erect barriers against the encroachments of the national authority.”[10]

    Non-enforcement occurs at the county level or even the city level again as an extension of upholding the oath of office. The county Sheriff is the senior law enforcement officer both in terms of rank and legal authority in a county. This comes from a tradition of over 1000 years of Anglo-Saxon common law. Anglo-Saxon communities were typically organized into “shires” consisting of approximately 1000 people.[11] The chief law enforcement officer of the shire was the “reeve” or “reef.” Hence, the modern combination of the two words, as we know them today, “shire reef” or “Sheriff.”[12]

    Consequently, the Sheriff’s pre-eminent legal authority is well established. This was correctly confirmed in Printz v. United States.[13] The late Justice Scalia quotes James Madison who wrote in Federalist 39:

    “In the latter, the local or municipal authorities form distinct and independent portions of the supremacy, no more subject, within their respective spheres, to the general authority, than the general authority is subject to them, within its own sphere.”[14]

    Furthermore no one is above the law…including federal agents and Antifa. Federal agents will claim they “have the authority, period.” Antifa claims some “moral authority.” This begs two great questions. How will a law passed at the federal level be enforced locally? And if no one stops Antifa’s rampages who will?

    Consequently, the laws we have are only as good as those officers that enforce them at the local level. Thus, the rise of tyranny must first come through both the United States Military and the County Sheriff. And this can only happen if those same people violate their oaths to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution and their own State’s Constitution.

    Today in Washington with the passage of I-1639, and other attempts at legislating gun control, Police Chiefs and Sheriffs are publicly stating their intent not to enforce these unconstitutional measures.[15] Non-enforcement was previously successful during the attempt by federal authorities to confiscate the firearms of a veteran in Priest River, Idaho.[16] The incident ended peacefully.

    However, what about when state and local elected officials are allowing marxist insurgents to commit crimes seemingly without consequence? In other words, what about when laws are not enforced which likewise brings about tyranny? With Antifa and other communist shock troops rioting unchecked in our country and threatening to move into rural areas it is the second question of Solzhenitsyn, which is so troubling to many, especially Christians. We must settle in our minds and our hearts right now the answer.

    “When one’s belt is taken away? When one is ordered to face into a corner? When one crosses the threshold of one’s home? An arrest consists of a series of incidental irrelevancies, of a multitude of things that do not matter, and there seems no point in arguing about one of them individually – especially at a time when the thoughts of the person arrested are wrapped tightly about the big question: ‘What for?’ – and yet all these incidental irrelevancies taken together implacably constitute the arrest.”

    He expounds on the idea further in a footnote:

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if…people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

    Then he concludes powerfully by writing “‘Resistance! Why didn’t you resist?’ Today those who have continued to live on in comfort scold those who suffered. Yes resistance should have begun right there, at the arrest itself. But it did not begin.” The failure to answer that question correctly and then act accordingly led to the untold deaths of tens of millions in communist regimes around the world.[17] Indeed in such scenarios, I am in fact my brother’s keeper.[18]

    And so most will find difficulty in this: violent resistance begins when anyone comes up the stairs to unjustly arrest our neighbors, destroy their property, attempt to physically harm them. Yet, there should not be difficulty at all in this because our Founding Fathers justified the entire Revolution on this principle.

    Recall April 19, 1775, where the British, after receiving orders to seize the weapons of the Massachusetts Militia and arrest Samuel Adams and John Hancock, marched on Lexington and Concord. At Lexington Green[19] Captain John Parker issued the famous command to his minutemen “Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.” The British fired the first shot of the Revolutionary War and we promptly reacted almost one year prior to the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

    At what exact point, then, should we resist? We have a duty to stop evil in the spiritual as Christians and likewise we have a duty to stop evil when it manifests in the physical. Christianity proclaims in Romans 12:18 “If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men.” This implies there is a point where peace is not possible. At that point, we must be prepared to act quickly to defend our homes and our families from those that seek to do us physical harm, destroy everything we hold dear, and overthrow our Constitutional Republic.

    Let us give thanks we have not had to do that yet
    When Should You Resist?


    Immediately, sometimes sooner.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    I agree, if SCOTUS refuses to hear the cases or rules in favor of Biden, this basically amounts to a regime change in which they have had many years of practice. Are we just going to just let them destroy what is left of the constitution?
    Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will delineate and define you.
    Thomas Jefferson

  5. #4
    Perhaps we should stop paying taxes first. That is a non violent resistance. Right now state governments are hurting for cash due to their lockdown policies.
    "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    -Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike4Freedom View Post
    Perhaps we should stop paying taxes first. That is a non violent resistance. Right now state governments are hurting for cash due to their lockdown policies.
    That merely gives them the legal opportunity to seize everything you own. No, this will not work.
    Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will delineate and define you.
    Thomas Jefferson

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by showpan View Post
    I agree, if SCOTUS refuses to hear the cases or rules in favor of Biden, this basically amounts to a regime change in which they have had many years of practice. Are we just going to just let them destroy what is left of the constitution?
    In essence they would be abolishing their own jobs because socialist regimes do not need a SCOTUS.
    .
    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

    .
    .
    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  8. #7
    I feel like I have been resisting my whole life. I want to be gentle if I can resist that way I will if not, I will do what I have to do to protect myself and my loved ones.

  9. #8
    Secession.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    In essence they would be abolishing their own jobs because socialist regimes do not need a SCOTUS.
    They would pack the court by expanding it. Then it would only be a monkey court for appearances only. They already promised they would. It all hinges on another Trump term and what happens in the Georgia run off for control of the Senate. If they get both, this country is done and will never be the same again.
    Last edited by showpan; 11-28-2020 at 11:47 AM.
    Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will delineate and define you.
    Thomas Jefferson

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Secession.
    Nope, secession isn't an option. Most of the cities are Democrat and the counties are Republican. We are talking about the states themselves being divided. The ones that aren't are not landlocked together. where you can simply draw a border. No matter who wins, secession by individual states will not be an option. The only way to take our government back would be an actual revolution, an uprising to seize control. You really cannot even call it a civil war because of the same reasons that secession will not work, the states themselves are divided. It would have to be an action against Democrat run cities in the states themselves. How would that play out?
    Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will delineate and define you.
    Thomas Jefferson

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by showpan View Post
    They would pack the court by expanding it. Then it would only be a monkey court for appearances only. They already promised they would. It all hinges on another Trump term and what happens in the Georgia run off for control of the Senate. If they get both, this country is done and will never be the same again.

    A Monkey Court is not a court.
    .
    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

    .
    .
    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by showpan View Post
    Nope, secession isn't an option. Most of the cities are Democrat and the counties are Republican. We are talking about the states themselves being divided. The ones that aren't are not landlocked together. where you can simply draw a border. No matter who wins, secession by individual states will not be an option. The only way to take our government back would be an actual revolution, an uprising to seize control. You really cannot even call it a civil war because of the same reasons that secession will not work, the states themselves are divided. It would have to be an action against Democrat run cities in the states themselves. How would that play out?
    Looks like team red and team blue each have enough coastline to call their own. A country's borders don't have to be contiguous. Country Blue & Country Red.


    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  15. #13
    People should start resisting now and drag these corrupt governors out of their homes.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  16. #14
    Should have happened when no election observers were allowed. There should have been armed squads ready to roll.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    When Should You Resist?

    Immediately, sometimes sooner.
    Please start using the "Reply" button instead of the "Reply With Quote" button.

    Thanks in advance (on behalf of my mouse's abused and overworked scroll wheel).
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  18. #16
    Yes, I agree, we should have rolled when they stopped the vote on election night and brought in the mail in ballots through the back door. We should have been waiting there to intercept them. It was so obvious what they were doing. Hindsight is 2020.....pun intended.
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    I may have a lot more to say about this topic once I finish dealing with my dad's passing and the other real-life govt caused disasters I'm trying to cope with, but judging by the utterly flaccid response by the political wing of the so-called "liberty movement" the proper time for resisance is never.
    Chris

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