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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    Amash is dead wrong about that, too. He's thinking like a socialist, as if it's the federal government's job to take care of the livelihood of people. What Amash seems to forget (like the rest of you Trump shills) is that we already have institutions designed to take care of people in dire straits. We have local churches, charities, and other private organizations, which are tax-exempt for the very reason that they exist to provide for the needs of the unfortunate.

    Some individuals so easily lose their ethics and principles when fear is the foundation of their concerns. Amash is guilty of that, and he should be exposed for giving in to socialist thought, calling himself a libertarian.
    Libertarians need to accept that they may be right about the chronic disease that brought on this crisis but that sometimes an otherwise unhealthy tourniquet needs to be applied to keep the victim alive long enough to be cured.

    We WILL have a bolshevik revolution if the tourniquet of government support is not used on the economy as it bleeds out due to government's overreaction to the virus



    The seeds are already sprouting:


    A group of homeless and housing-insecure Angelenos seized more vacant, publicly owned homes in El Sereno on Wednesday, arguing that government officials have failed to provide the shelter that’s necessary for them to remain healthy during the coronavirus pandemic.

    The occupation followed a similar takeover Saturday, when two families and a man moved into one of the neighborhood’s dozens of empty homes — all owned by Caltrans. The state agency bought them years ago as part of a now-failed plan to extend the 710 Freeway.

    The protesters have taken over 12 homes and plan to remain in the properties indefinitely, organizers said.

    “With this health crisis and this housing crisis, we need every vacant house to be a home for those who don’t have a safe and stable place to sleep in,” said Ruby Gordillo, 33, while standing on the porch of a two-bedroom bungalow before moving in with her three children.

    Gordillo and others involved in the protest have said they were inspired by a group of homeless mothers in Oakland. Late last year, those mothers took over a vacant, corporate-owned property and, after they were evicted, secured backing from Gov. Gavin Newsom to force the Bay Area property’s sale to a community land trust.

    Like the Oakland moms, the protesters in El Sereno are affiliated with the Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment, an organization that has advocated several statewide measures to expand rent control and tenant protections.

    The LA protesters, who call themselves Reclaiming Our Homes, say their push is all the more urgent because of the spread of the coronavirus and the disease it causes, COVID-19. Public health experts are calling for increasingly stringent measures, including asking people to stay indoors and to keep their distance from one another to slow the virus’ spread.

    Though Newsom, LA Mayor Eric Garcetti and other elected officials have called for housing homeless residents in hotels, motels and on public property, the families say they haven’t acted with enough urgency.

    “Since they’re not, they’re being unjust,” said Martha Escudero, 42, who has spent the last 18 months sleeping on couches in East Los Angeles before moving into the Caltrans-owned home Saturday. “We have to do this.”

    More at: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/real...es/ar-BB11pZjY
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  3. #32
    Perhaps I'll take my Trump Bucks and short the dollar.



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  5. #33

    Let's See Whose Pockets Your Hands Are In

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Libertarians need to accept that they may be right about the chronic disease that brought on this crisis but that sometimes an otherwise unhealthy tourniquet needs to be applied to keep the victim alive long enough to be cured.

    We WILL have a bolshevik revolution if the tourniquet of government support is not used on the economy as it bleeds out due to government's overreaction to the virus



    The seeds are already sprouting:


    A group of homeless and housing-insecure Angelenos seized more vacant, publicly owned homes in El Sereno on Wednesday, arguing that government officials have failed to provide the shelter that’s necessary for them to remain healthy during the coronavirus pandemic.

    The occupation followed a similar takeover Saturday, when two families and a man moved into one of the neighborhood’s dozens of empty homes — all owned by Caltrans. The state agency bought them years ago as part of a now-failed plan to extend the 710 Freeway.

    The protesters have taken over 12 homes and plan to remain in the properties indefinitely, organizers said.

    “With this health crisis and this housing crisis, we need every vacant house to be a home for those who don’t have a safe and stable place to sleep in,” said Ruby Gordillo, 33, while standing on the porch of a two-bedroom bungalow before moving in with her three children.

    Gordillo and others involved in the protest have said they were inspired by a group of homeless mothers in Oakland. Late last year, those mothers took over a vacant, corporate-owned property and, after they were evicted, secured backing from Gov. Gavin Newsom to force the Bay Area property’s sale to a community land trust.

    Like the Oakland moms, the protesters in El Sereno are affiliated with the Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment, an organization that has advocated several statewide measures to expand rent control and tenant protections.

    The LA protesters, who call themselves Reclaiming Our Homes, say their push is all the more urgent because of the spread of the coronavirus and the disease it causes, COVID-19. Public health experts are calling for increasingly stringent measures, including asking people to stay indoors and to keep their distance from one another to slow the virus’ spread.

    Though Newsom, LA Mayor Eric Garcetti and other elected officials have called for housing homeless residents in hotels, motels and on public property, the families say they haven’t acted with enough urgency.

    “Since they’re not, they’re being unjust,” said Martha Escudero, 42, who has spent the last 18 months sleeping on couches in East Los Angeles before moving into the Caltrans-owned home Saturday. “We have to do this.”

    More at: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/real...es/ar-BB11pZjY
    Do you support Andrew Yang's UBI proposal, Swordsmyth?
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    Do you support Andrew Yang's UBI proposal, Swordsmyth?
    No.

    Permanent free money for no reason is a horrible idea and completely different from relieving the economic destruction caused by government overreacting to the virus.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  7. #35

    Stop Moving Goalposts

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No.

    Permanent free money for no reason is a horrible idea and completely different from relieving the economic destruction caused by government overreacting to the virus.
    Where does the money come from for "relieving the economic destruction caused by government overreacting to the virus," considering that we're $20T in debt?

    The whole reason that Trump wants to mail every one (or mostly every one) a check is because he's trying to supplement their basic income...which is a temporary Universal Basic Income initiative.
    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

    "May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the Establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    Where does the money come from for "relieving the economic destruction caused by government overreacting to the virus," considering that we're $20T in debt?
    It will come out of the value of every other dollar in the world.
    Therefore it will mostly come from the foreign countries and globalist thieves who have been robbing the rest of us Americans for generations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    The whole reason that Trump wants to mail every one (or mostly every one) a check is because he's trying to supplement their basic income...which is a temporary Universal Basic Income initiative.
    He's trying to compensate victims of government for the damage government is doing to them so they can survive and not embrace a communist revolution out of desperation and a correct sense of being robbed and destroyed.

    Or do you not think that the victims of government should be compensated for the damage government does to them.

    UBI is completely different due to its permanent nature and disconnection from any harm by government to the recipients.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  9. #37

    "2+2=5"

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It will come out of the value of every other dollar in the world.
    Therefore it will mostly come from the foreign countries and globalist thieves who have been robbing the rest of us Americans for generations.


    He's trying to compensate victims of government for the damage government is doing to them so they can survive and not embrace a communist revolution out of desperation and a correct sense of being robbed and destroyed.

    Or do you not think that the victims of government should be compensated for the damage government does to them.

    UBI is completely different due to its permanent nature and disconnection from any harm by government to the recipients.
    Dude, you're my brother-in-Christ, but you sure are lost.
    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

    "May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the Establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul

  10. #38
    It couldn't be that this is all scripted, could it? Naaa, that's crazy talk. Totally coincidental that Yang introduced UBI into the conversation and now the Orange Socialist is all for it during an emergency that happens soon after. Must be coincidence.


    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Perhaps I'll take my Trump Bucks and short the dollar.
    spx puts
    Last edited by devil21; 03-20-2020 at 08:15 AM.
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