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    CoronasGrave.com - Fundraiser for novel COVID-19 study. Please contribute!

    I have been working on a grassroots fundraiser for Dr. Gaetan Chevalier. Dr. Chevalier pioneered many of the early studies on earthing research. I contacted him during the 2020 pandemic to see if he wanted to work on a study that involved earthing patients with COVID-19.

    He has proposed a research study that will document the effects of grounding/earthing on "Long Hauler" COVID-19 patients.

    Our goal of $20,000 will fully fund Dr. Chevalier's proposed "Long Hauler" study.

    Please read about his proposed study and earthing on the fundraising site:

    http://www.CoronasGrave.com

    There was a recent study pupblished on earthing COVID-19 patients in Iraq. You can read about the results reported in that paper on the fundraising site.

    I am not receiving a portion of any donated funds. I will be chipping in $50 at some point. Please contribute by either donating or sharing this fundraiser with your sphere of influence. Please help me share the benefits of earthing with the public!

    I will be doing an AMA on some subreddits to help drive some traffic to the site. If you can help out with a video or in any other way, please let me know. Any input is appreciated.

    Donate on the GoFundMe page:

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/coronasgr...ch-fundraising

    Please check it out and help make it happen!

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    Why do you believe 'earthing' has any physiological effects?
    >_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    Why do you believe 'earthing' has any physiological effects?
    Earthing the human body influences physiologic processes
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21469913/

    I've been grounding for about two years and can confirm what the studies have found. My family has experienced the same benefits.

    It's real and free. Hard to believe.

    Read studies: https://earthinginstitute.net/research/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    It's real and free. Hard to believe.
    Is this a matter of faith for you? Do you want to have a scientific discussion or would that hurt your belief?

    [EDIT]Okay I don't really care about your feelings. This is for the benefit of other RPF members.

    1) The Earthing people claim that the body suffers a dearth of 'negative electrons' and that grounding repleneshes them.

    2) Flowing electrons is called a 'current'

    3) We can measure current. So let's test the earthing theory.

    These devices can measure total current over time in milliamp-hours (multiply amps * watts to get milliwatt-hours).
    Connect device to electrode and earth it as follows.


    4) Measure current (or preferably cumulative milliwatt-hours over a night's sleep) and report back to me. If the theory says earthing replenishes electrons you or someone else should be able to measure that, right?

    5) To the studies you linked: The world is full of bad studies. Absolutely chock-full. A study needs to be independently verified by several different groups to be trustable. These have not been.

    6) The hypothesis needs a causal explanation. The explanation of 'bodies lacking electrons' contradicts known biochemistry. For 'earthing' to be true, what we know about cell biology needs to be untrue. Electrons are not electrolytes. https://beyondgrowth.net/technology-...lth-scam-ever/

    7) People can build up static electric charges (positive or negative) - this is distributed over the surface of the skin due to the Coulomb effect. It doesn't permeate your body. Accumulated charge is generally dispersed through contact with normal objects including the house. In low-humidity ambient surroundings, some charge can accumulate and discharge in a shock, say on a door-handle. This is generally rare, and the grounding is instant. https://electrostatics.net/articles/..._on_people.htm

    8) Houses and buildings and sofas and beds are already at ground potential. Shoes are typically not such great insulators either. You can confirm this with a multimeter set to measure mV (millivolts). Put one lead on an earthed/grounded pipe or something, another lead on your bed or the floor or the inside of your shoe. How many millivolts difference can you measure?

    9) None of this disproves that you or some friends might subjectively feel this is helping you, or that it really does help you. The power of belief can heal. But believing in falsehoods can also harm. It can make you feel and be sicker in normal human environments, without your 'grounding mat' or whatever you use.
    Last edited by merkelstan; 03-11-2021 at 01:37 PM. Reason: substance added
    >_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    Is this a matter of faith for you? Do you want to have a scientific discussion or would that hurt your belief?

    [EDIT]Okay I don't really care about your feelings. This is for the benefit of other RPF members.
    It’s not about faith or belief. It’s about panning out and looking at the totality of information and comparing it to your own observations. People who are capable of thinking for themselves are less susceptible to indoctrination and propaganda.

    Keep your condescension to yourself. Your reply benefits very few.

    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    3) We can measure current. So let's test the earthing theory.
    These devices can measure total current over time in milliamp-hours (multiply amps * watts to get milliwatt-hours).
    Connect device to electrode and earth it as follows.

    4) Measure current (or preferably cumulative milliwatt-hours over a night's sleep) and report back to me. If the theory says earthing replenishes electrons you or someone else should be able to measure that, right?
    Grounding current is difficult to measure. The currents flowing between the human body and ground are small (nanoamperes). Static electricity also gets in the way.

    See this study by Kent Chamberlin. Chamberlin was Professor and the Chair of the Electrical and Computer Engineering at the University of New Hampshire. He just retired this year. He made an extremely sensitive amplifier to measure current. It is placed just like the one in your photo. They have found that the current is in the range of 100 pico-amps or 1/10,000,000,000 (one ten billionth) of an amp and lasts less than a second.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...56370714001333

    If the body is in the presence of EMFs, these EMFs will create an AC voltage on the surface of the body at the same frequency as the EMFs.

    This will take over any other measurement of current.

    https://earthinginstitute.net/wp-con...tage-study.pdf

    See specifically Figure 14 of Applewhite's study; this figure shows clearly that the AC current flowing back and forth in the grounding wire primarily follows the EMFs frequency and pattern. This is exactly what needs to happen for grounding to cancel the effects of EMFs on the body.

    I am aware that Dr. Chevalier is presently working on a study to measure grounding current with Dr. Chamberlin.

    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    5) To the studies you linked: The world is full of bad studies. Absolutely chock-full. A study needs to be independently verified by several different groups to be trustable. These have not been.
    Tell me which of the studies that I linked to are bad studies. Do you know the difference between a bad study and a good one?

    Does a study of a field have to reach a certain criteria of acceptance in the community before more research can be permitted?

    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    6) The hypothesis needs a causal explanation. The explanation of 'bodies lacking electrons' contradicts known biochemistry. For 'earthing' to be true, what we know about cell biology needs to be untrue. Electrons are not electrolytes. https://beyondgrowth.net/technology-...lth-scam-ever/
    Inflammation, the cause of accelerated aging and degenerative diseases (including diabetes, Alzheimer's, arthritis, cardiovascular disease, most cancers etc.) is caused by free radicals - usually oxygen molecules that have lost one electron. These molecules need electrons to stabilize themselves chemically. These electrons are lacking and that is why people have smoldering inflammation in their body that leads to health complications.

    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    7) People can build up static electric charges (positive or negative) - this is distributed over the surface of the skin due to the Coulomb effect. It doesn't permeate your body. Accumulated charge is generally dispersed through contact with normal objects including the house. In low-humidity ambient surroundings, some charge can accumulate and discharge in a shock, say on a door-handle. This is generally rare, and the grounding is instant. https://electrostatics.net/articles/..._on_people.htm
    No, it's not an issue of can build charges. People build positive charges 99.9% of the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    8) Houses and buildings and sofas and beds are already at ground potential. Shoes are typically not such great insulators either. You can confirm this with a multimeter set to measure mV (millivolts). Put one lead on an earthed/grounded pipe or something, another lead on your bed or the floor or the inside of your shoe. How many millivolts difference can you measure?
    Again wrong. Houses are made of wood, so are sofas and most beds and so they are not a conductor. Further, the atmosphere is usually charged positively (unless you are in a region where negative ions are presents such as on a beach or in the forest) and so houses and sofas and chairs and beds are NOT at the ground potential. Modern shoes, with plastic or rubber soles, are great insulators; they will insulate you from the ground perfectly.

    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    9) None of this disproves that you or some friends might subjectively feel this is helping you, or that it really does help you. The power of belief can heal. But believing in falsehoods can also harm. It can make you feel and be sicker in normal human environments, without your 'grounding mat' or whatever you use.
    Hey, we agree on something. None of what you posted disproves that earthing really does help. Great disclaimer after taking a dump on my fundraiser.

    There are at least a dozen earthing studies that are placebo-controlled. There is also a rat study showing that grounded rats fare better than ungrounded rats in processing glucose and that this lowers their risk of metabolic syndrome. So the benefits of grounding are NOT a placebo effect.

    Did these babies improve their vagal tone due to a placebo effect?

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28601861/

    I have experimented for myself and know that there are direct immediate benefits.


    For those reading, go try it for yourself.

    Tell your friends and families about the benefits and have them try it.

    Thirty minutes barefoot on damp concrete or clean soil.

    So many people carry around aches and pains. This will help many of them.

    Get some people to donate to research that can change the world. Give love, get love!

    http://www.CoronasGrave.com

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    Thanks for your reply but it's better we don't continue the discussion.

    For the rest here: Metabolic syndrome, inflammation and type 2 diabetes are mostly caused by a modern high-carb diet. A lot of doctors are coming around to this and treating those symptoms without drugs. Ivor Cummins does good work summarizing and spreading these findings.
    (Actually, I think that should be a new thread)
    asd

    Futher health discussion appended to the keto thread here http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7028026
    (if you prefer people don't append to old threads I can start a new one).
    Last edited by merkelstan; 03-12-2021 at 03:10 AM.
    >_<

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    Got our first donation. Thanks for breaking the ice anon.

    Doing an ama on r/conspiracy to promote this fundraiser today.

    Help me spread the word!

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