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Thread: When did automatic weapons become "illegal"?

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    Question When did automatic weapons become "illegal"?

    And do you think they will ever be legal one day?



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    Not entirely Illegal, but I think you mean.
    National Firearms Act of 1934.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act ,for easy reference.

    and though doubtful about it's repeal, we can always hope.
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    you can still own pre-1984 full autos (sort or; lots of hoops to jump through).

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    $200 transfer tax + background check
    + (prints + photo OR trust) Some places also require a local chief of police sigh off, not needed with trust.

    avg 3 month wait - and it's yours. The things are rather expensive though, just because no more are entering the market. They are also a very expensive hobby - they are very hungry for ammo.

    Another way you can get one is by forming a corporation and having the corp buy it.

    -t

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    $200 transfer tax + background check
    + (prints + photo OR trust) Some places also require a local chief of police sigh off, not needed with trust.

    avg 3 month wait - and it's yours. The things are rather expensive though, just because no more are entering the market. They are also a very expensive hobby - they are very hungry for ammo.

    Another way you can get one is by forming a corporation and having the corp buy it.

    -t
    does this work with post-1984 guns too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghengis86 View Post
    does this work with post-1984 guns too?
    No. That's why they are so expensive. You can only own pre-86. You could become a dealer and get a post 86 sample but you need a letter from a LE agency to do that. You could become a manufacturer too, but that's several $k every year in extortion payments to the ATF.

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    Let's recap -
    The 1934 NFA required registration and payment of a $200 tax to own an automatic weapon.

    1986 legislation made the registration of additional automatic weapons impossible, so, in effect no newly made automatic weapons available to the civilian market.

    Additionally 1986 BATF regulations required registration of ARs using M16 receiver parts (disconnector, hammer, selector, etc.), which was a common practice in ARs, but just because they had to be registered, did not mean it was OK to make them into automatic weapons.

    Will they be legal again probably depends on a SCOTUS ruling that the NFA is an infringement on the right to keep and bear arms (combines effect of the Heller and Miller cases). Otherwise, we can be sure that the .gov does not want us to have such things.
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