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    The Orange New Deal

    Much attention has been garnered by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s juvenile Green New Deal and its fantasy of remaking our high-tech civilization into an agrarian paradise. It has been pointed out that if this draconian plan were enacted, trillions in wealth would be destroyed, and quite possibly, millions of lives lost. America would be jolted back to the 19th Century, a place where few folks other than perhaps the Amish are equipped to survive. To which AOC replies, well, she’s only starting a conversation here. And what does it matter, since we’re all going to die in 12 years anyway. It is difficult to tell how much of this the left actually believes, and how much is posturing and virtue signaling.
    The original New Deal was a term coined by President Franklin Roosevelt in the depths of the Great Depression. Though in reality it was just another socialist program that likely extended the Depression, it succeeded in its real purpose—propaganda. Many people were convinced falsely that the Depression was caused by evil Capitalists, and that FDR was valiantly saving the common people through this wonderful program of putting limitations on the free market.
    Today the term New Deal still retains some positive connotations, which is no doubt why Occasional-Cortex or her handlers dug up the term to reuse. In their fevered imaginations, the earth is about to collapse under the weight of all this scorching heat, unless the left can save us with another government wealth-confiscation program.
    But while the left has been hand-wringing about its Chicken Little fantasy, President Trump has been putting into effect his own Orange New Deal. Not to counteract some imaginary Climate Crisis, but to begin to put the brakes on a much greater catastrophe, the flood of Marxist ideas that have threatened to destroy everything about America that makes it the greatest country on earth. Eight years of fundamental transformation of America’s free enterprise system had brought business expansion and job creation to a practical halt. Eight years of underfunding America’s military and apologizing to despots around the globe have put America into a highly weakened position globally. Eight years of no moral compass in the White House have left many Americans not even knowing how to tell boys from girls, let alone friends from enemies. Trump has been busy reversing these trends, while his enemies keep occupied talking amongst themselves about how they are just so close to removing Trump from office. The end to Trump’s prosperity is just around the corner.
    And as bad as it was to have a President for eight years who didn’t love America, it was just as bad to have an ‘opposition’ party with barely a pulse, unable to mount even a feeble effort to oppose any of these destructive ideas. Establishment Republicans such as Boehner and Ryan made it clear they despised true conservatives much more than they did leftist Democrats, and never made any more than a token effort to oppose Obama’s policies. In the pre-Trump years, they knew they could get away with it. Where else were conservatives going to go?
    Then came Donald Trump and the Orange New Deal. Old political alliances were smashed, and milquetoast Republicans swept away by the avalanche of voter discontent in 2016 that no one on either side realized was powerful enough to put a true outsider in the White House. If the Democrats had suspected, they surely would have found even more dead voters in swing states to vote for them. Trump came into office unexpectedly, owing no one, with a huge hammer in his hand. Beginning with his inaugural speech, he let it be known that old politics as usual was no longer going to cut it. And so it hasn’t.
    Of course he made missteps. Many of those he trusted early on were not trustworthy. The Deep State has tentacles everywhere, and is doing it’s best to degrade and ultimately destroy the Trump Administration. But nevertheless, the Orange New Deal marches on. Not since Reagan, have we had a President who gave more than lip service to making America a stronger, freer nation. Not since then have we had a leader on the world stage who proves daily that he means what he says, gaining the respect of our enemies and the admiration of friends. And Donald Trump has the guts to speak the truth about the Global Warming hoax, infuriating the radical left to no end.
    Rather than outlaw the energy crucial to the survival of our industrial civilization, as AOC’s handlers propose to do, Trump’s Orange New Deal is unleashing American business to once again compete on a world stage. Rather than falling for the Marxist lie that only America must curtail its industries, Trump has leveled the playing field internationally, demanding that America be allowed to compete fairly.
    Trump’s Orange New Deal is not another socialist program, like the original, or like the Green and Mean new version the Radical Left has conjured up. Instead it is a new deal for America’s forgotten classes in flyover country, for so long scorned by the elitists in both parties who felt they had something akin to a Divine Right to rule. Working men and women seethed for 8 long years as they watched America being dragged through the mud by pampered and ignorant elitists, and the values they care about being trashed and spit upon.
    The Orange New Deal is not new at all, of course, but a return to the tried and true values that made America great. It only seems new, because we have strayed from them so far, and for so long. We need to support our President and what he is trying to do, for it is our only avenue to escape the insanity and mass death planned for us by the embittered left.
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    Well, that was an overly positive review.

    Eight years of underfunding America’s military
    Uh, is there any part of government that is underfunded?

    And what has Trump done to cut spending?
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    Well, that is a bunch of ignorant bullcrap.

    There is an Orange New Deal though. Anti-free trade "protectionism" that degrades American trade by imposing high tariffs, huge billion dollar bailouts of businesses and farmers who are on the verge of economic collapse because of said economic policies, despising of foreigners as a "threat" to America's "way of life," using the powers of the state to threaten businesses who dare do something the fickle man in power disapproves of, the embrace of a deep nationalism, the love shown towards Middle Eastern dictators, the usage of the American military in foreign lands to secure our "national interests," the appeal to the working class proleitariat -the "flyover country forgotten working man"- all of these are part of Trump's New Deal. And unsurprisingly they were apart of FDR's New Deal as well. Meet the new boss kids, same a sthe old one.

    The Republican praising of Ronald Reagan is always funny, too. Republicans rail against socialism and denounce FDR as a socialist while praising Reagan who described himself repeatedly as a "New Deal Democrat" -in other words a socialist who had embraced American nationalism as a follower of FDR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Well, that was an overly positive review.
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Well, that is a bunch of ignorant bullcrap.
    Meet the new boss kids, same as the old one.
    Me thinks so as well... the author paints a rather rosie picture.

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    Isn't there intrinsic racism in referring to Trump (who is white) as being "orange?" Considering that white people are the overwhelming demographic of artificial skin tanning, it is a direct and perverse attack on white cultural phenomena.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Isn't there intrinsic racism in referring to Trump (who is white) as being "orange?" Considering that white people are the overwhelming demographic of artificial skin tanning, it is a direct and perverse attack on white cultural phenomena.
    I agree. They say that you can’t be racist against whites because whites are the racist oppressors. It’s a logic fail, but that’s typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Isn't there intrinsic racism in referring to Trump (who is white) as being "orange?" Considering that white people are the overwhelming demographic of artificial skin tanning, it is a direct and perverse attack on white cultural phenomena.
    So, does that mean AOC's "green" deal is also racist?

    Pretty sure "orange" means Trump's hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    So, does that mean AOC's "green" deal is also racist?

    Pretty sure "orange" means Trump's hair.
    Same here and if its racist to poke fun at person because of hair colour, does it make the term carrot hair, fire crouch racist?

    Trump's skin is not orange and he doesn't tan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    So, does that mean AOC's "green" deal is also racist?

    Pretty sure "orange" means Trump's hair.
    I thought it was his bad make-up job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    I thought it was his bad make-up job.

    LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    I thought it was his bad make-up job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Isn't there intrinsic racism in referring to Trump (who is white) as being "orange?" Considering that white people are the overwhelming demographic of artificial skin tanning, it is a direct and perverse attack on white cultural phenomena.
    Orange is a culture, not a race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Orange is a culture, not a race.
    Tell that to the Boers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Tell that to the Boers.
    Boer is a culture, not a race.
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Boer is a culture, not a race.
    Define a race.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    How about cutting waste in Military, DoD, Ed, etc? Not surprised. Trump didnt run on a fiscal conservative platform

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Well, that was an overly positive review.



    Uh, is there any part of government that is underfunded?

    And what has Trump done to cut spending?
    I do not really remember seeing the unfunded part of govt . Since new experiences of quality are scarce at my age I say lets do some of it . They could start with all the bull$#@! nobody would miss like education & agriculture etc.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Isn't there intrinsic racism in referring to Trump (who is white) as being "orange?" Considering that white people are the overwhelming demographic of artificial skin tanning, it is a direct and perverse attack on white cultural phenomena.
    And there was a white people tax on tanning put into Obamacare .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Define a race.
    Try saying it into your phone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Try saying it into your phone.
    You are the one who claims to know how much genetic similarity/difference is required to say what a race is, if you can't give me a definition then I guess you are admitting that you were just talking through your hat.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    So, does that mean AOC's "green" deal is also racist?

    Pretty sure "orange" means Trump's hair.
    No, it definitely refers to Trump's skin color, which is why people call him orange man, Cheeto, etc. Glenn Beck even put his face into a bowl of crushed Cheetos as one of his stunts to mock Trump.

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Same here and if its racist to poke fun at person because of hair colour, does it make the term carrot hair, fire crouch racist?

    Trump's skin is not orange and he doesn't tan.
    His skin is no more orange than other people's skin may be white, black, etc. He definitely either tans, gets spray tanned, or uses makeup to make himself look less pallid than your typical 70-year-old white male. You can even see his natural pallor around his eyes.

    Regardless, imagine if people made fun of any non-white person, literally for skin color.

    Regarding red hair, aside from perhaps some extreme outliers, it would be a phenotype associated with white people. I think that an argument could be made that it is racist, since it would be comparable to, say, making fun of the shape of an Asian's eyes, or whatever you want to come up with. I personally don't care, but I'm trying to practice my faux-outrage in order to better blend in.
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