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Which of course was a Bush/ Republicans program (as was the Patriot Act). Obama tried to close Gitmo but the Republican congress did their best to prevent it. Some releases were started under Bush. There were over 200 there but that figure was down to 44 by the time Obama left office.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...amo-bay-233859
Obama slams Congress for blocking efforts to close Gitmo
President Barack Obama blasted Congress on Thursday for playing politics in repeatedly blocking his efforts to close the terrorist prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, which will still have 41 prisoners when he leaves office Friday.
In a terse letter to leaders on Capitol Hill, Obama said "there is simply no justification beyond politics for the Congress' insistence on keeping the facility open."
"Members of Congress who obstruct efforts to close the facility, given the stakes involved for our security, have abdicated their responsibility to the American people," he added. "They have placed politics above the ongoing costs to taxpayers, our relationships with our allies, and the threat posed to U.S. national security by leaving open a facility that governments around the world condemn and which hinders rather than helps our fight against terrorism."
Thursday evening, the Pentagon announced the final four Guantanamo transfers of the Obama administration with just hours remaining in his presidency, sending one detainee to Saudi Arabia and three to the United Arab Emirates.
The Obama administration has transferred as many inmates as practical to the custody of foreign countries after reviewing their cases — for a total of 196, including more than 50 in the past year, according to a White House fact sheet.
Republicans have criticized those transfers, accusing Obama of trying to fulfill his campaign promise at the risk of detainees reverting back to terrorism. As many as 30 percent of detainees who have been released have been confirmed or are suspected of re-entering the terrorism fight.
But Obama argues that most of those were released during the administration of President George W. Bush.
“For detainees transferred since 2009, less than six percent of former detainees have been confirmed by the Intelligence Community of engaging or reengaging in terrorist activity, and less than seven percent of former detainees are suspected of reengaging in such activity,” Obama wrote.
Most frustrating to Obama, Congress has repeatedly prevented him from moving the remaining detainees — considered the most dangerous — to maximum security prisons on American soil.
“The restrictions imposed by the Congress that prevent us from imprisoning detainees — even to prosecute and secure a life sentence — in the United States make no sense,” Obama wrote. “No person has ever escaped one of our super-max or military prisons here, ever."
Human rights advocates have pressed Obama to use his executive powers to close the prison unilaterally but he has opted not to try to circumvent the legislative restrictions.
President-elect Donald Trump, meanwhile, has vowed to keep the prison open. It is unclear if he intends to hold additional suspected terrorists there.
It is amazing to see people at a supposedly Libertarian site arguing that it is fine to keeps somebody in prison after completion of the sentence for a non- violent crime and without any new charges to put him in jail for. I can see why there is much support for totalitarian leaders like Putin, Orban, and Erdogan.
Not one of "us" so you don't care. Though it could grow to include "us". Liberty should be for all or it isn't Liberty- it is a privilege for the few.
Which was not good either and he tried to hedge on that:
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/...ntion-bill-law
WASHINGTON – President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law today. The statute contains a sweeping worldwide indefinite detention provision. While President Obama issued a signing statement saying he had “serious reservations” about the provisions, the statement only applies to how his administration would use the authorities granted by the NDAA, and would not affect how the law is interpreted by subsequent administrations. The White House had threatened to veto an earlier version of the NDAA, but reversed course shortly before Congress voted on the final bill.
“President Obama's action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law,” said Anthony D. Romero, ACLU executive director. “The statute is particularly dangerous because it has no temporal or geographic limitations, and can be used by this and future presidents to militarily detain people captured far from any battlefield. The ACLU will fight worldwide detention authority wherever we can, be it in court, in Congress, or internationally.”
Under the Bush administration, similar claims of worldwide detention authority were used to hold even a U.S. citizen detained on U.S. soil in military custody, and many in Congress now assert that the NDAA should be used in the same way again. The ACLU believes that any military detention of American citizens or others within the United States is unconstitutional and illegal, including under the NDAA. In addition, the breadth of the NDAA’s detention authority violates international law because it is not limited to people captured in the context of an actual armed conflict as required by the laws of war.
Your indefinite detention is an intentional distraction from the discussion.
Nobody here is advocating for his indefinite detention but you attempt to claim that anyone who doesn't want him released in America wants him indefinitely detained.
He should be released anywhere but here but he must not be released here.
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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
What I said has nothing to do with recognizing a Palestinian government or not or whether there should be one or not.
It's about the facts on the ground, Israel has the power over that area and they would prevent our returning him there unless we used force or did it covertly.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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Originally Posted by Zippyjuan Unlimited detention without any charges. He has not committed any violent crimes (or been accused of any) and served his sentence. He should be freed.
Originally Posted by Ender
You really think this is $#@!ing OK? Anyone can be next!
Originally Posted by CCTelander
The prevailing attitude around here really seems to have become that totalitarianism is just fine as long as it's pointed in the "right" direction. After all, it's the only way to preserve what's left of our "liberty culture." Just ask SS.
Originally Posted by TheCount
1) They weren't being held under the PATRIOT act.
2) This guy isn't being held without trial. He's being held after trial.
3) The GITMO excuse is that they are military detainees in military detention for military trial for an undeclared war. This is a civil/civilian action.
I'm guessing that between the four of you , you can collectively rub three brain cells together and decide what
should be done with the man.
:crickets:
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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In the exact same post, you said that we could and should covertly return him to Lebanon.
And
Wrapped up neatly in one incoherent package.
You have a problem with covertly deporting him to one place, and no problem with covertly deporting him to another place. And you yourself say that the reason that those two situations are different is because Israel is in control of one place and not the other.
Seems rather straightforward to me.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
That you jumped right into the bucket o' neocons that @RonZeplin described.
Except not the actual place that he's from, because Israel.
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