Trump Sentences Accused War Criminals to Death

[RonZeplin]

Trump Sentences Accused War Criminals to Death

On November 15, US president Donald Trump pardoned two US Army officers accused of war crimes (one convicted, the other awaiting trial ).

Trump also re-promoted US Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher from Petty Officer First Class to Chief Petty Officer. Gallagher was convicted of a minor war crime (posing for a photo with a corpse) after he was accused of murdering the victim, but acquitted when a fellow sailor swung a deal for immunity, then reversed his testimony and claimed responsibility for the murder.

When he learned that the Navy intended to remove Gallagher from duty as a SEAL, Trump intervened again, by tweet – “The Navy will NOT be taking away Warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher’s Trident Pin” – and had Richard Spencer fired as Secretary of the Navy for not treating the tweet as an order.

There are plenty of reasons to criticize Trump’s actions, but I only have room in this column for one of those reasons:

He has effectively sentenced future US soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines to battlefield execution.

Gallagher’s crimes were reported by his SEAL comrades.

He was investigated and charged with those crimes by the Navy itself, which has morale and publicity incentives to only go after “the worst of the worst” for actions on the battlefield.

He was tried and convicted by a jury of his military peers in a process that actually offers more protections for defendants than the civilian justice system (for example, an enlisted defendant can demand that at least one third of the jury be enlisted personnel rather than officers).

When Trump short-circuited that process – first with the pardon, then with the re-promotion, and finally with the demand that Gallagher be allowed to return to his former unit – he very loudly sent a message to every member of the US armed forces:

“When you have a bad actor in your midst, take care of the problem yourselves. If you go through the proper channels, that bad actor will get off with little or no punishment and be sent right back to your ranks.”

Above and beyond the damage done to their direct victims, war criminals endanger their fellow troops. They make enemies out of people who might otherwise remain neutral or even friendly. They motivate those enemies to fight harder and to seek harsh vengeance.

If the military justice system doesn’t charge, try, and punish people whose crimes endanger their comrades because the president panders for votes from “support the troops” types, the (unsupported) troops will deal with such matters on the spot.

We who are veterans can attest to “blanket parties” for serial screw-ups, “dry showers” with scrub brushes for guys who don’t maintain personal hygiene in close living quarters, and other “light” punishments for minor offenses.

For endangering the lives of comrades, military vigilantism extends all the way to summary execution. In Vietnam, it was referred to as “fragging.”

https://original.antiwar.com/thomas-...nals-to-death/

[tebowlives]

Code Red

[Stratovarious]

Trump has said nothing of Israel's War Crimes, war crimes don't seem to be any
concern of his.

[Swordsmyth]

Navy illegally spied on accused SEAL and his defense team






Friday was a historic day for those who support and defend our rights and who volunteer to go in harm's way on our behalf - Our Nation's Warriors.
Each of the hundreds of thousands of people associated with United American Patriots, regardless of political leaning, is elated President Trump righted the wrongs faced by 1LT Clint Lorance, MAJ Matt Golsteyn, and Chief Eddie Gallagher.
In each of these cases and many others, there is clear evidence of unlawful command influence, prosecutor misconduct, and improper investigative actions.
Those media pundits, politicians, and even military general officers who sound off in disagreement, spouting moral platitudes about how President Trump's actions send a "bad signal," will undermine the military justice system, or negatively impact good order and discipline within the Armed Forces, are simply highlighting their own level of ignorance regarding each of these cases.
Our service members take an oath that states: “I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
Among other things, our Constitution specifically serves to protect the rights of every individual American citizen.


Whether it be free speech, protection from unwarranted searches and seizures, due process, impartial and fair trials, or excessive punishment, the Constitution is the defining document that separates American citizens from the rest of the world. It’s the founding accord that has produced the greatest country on the face of the Earth. Many have served and some have died protecting it and the associated lives, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of hundreds of millions both at home and abroad.
The implicit presumption made by our service members, while performing heroic, selfless, and, at times, near-miraculous acts of valor to uphold their oath to our Constitution, is that they themselves will be afforded its benefits.
Unfortunately, all too often, that is not the case.
We at United American Patriots review far too many cases where Warrior's Rights have been violated and honorable servicemembers face wrongful accusations of "war crimes" which lead to unjust convictions.
Whether motivated by politics, self-preservation, or personal promotion, confessions by the accused are coerced; enemy combatants lawfully killed by our Warriors are labeled as "unarmed civilians;" forensic experts with exonerating forensic evidence are dismissed and silenced; witnesses are intimidated and manipulated; attorney-client privilege is violated; exculpatory evidence is withheld from juries; known enemy combatants are used testifying against our Heroes - some enemy combatants have even been flown in to America, given an opportunity to testify, and then taken to Sea World prior to being flown back home and set free in Afghanistan (yes this really happened).



What is worse, senior military leaders make false and inappropriate statements publicly and to Members of Congress to protect their careers and the perception of the institutions they represent as opposed to upholding the Constitution and defending the individual rights of our Warriors.
Putting on display American values, such as due process, the presumption of innocence, and the rights of the accused should be the concern of our military commanders and their civilian leaders, not incarcerating our Warriors to prove political correctness or appease false allegations by foreign leaders.

The Founding Fathers granted the President of the United States the “power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses…” Since President George Washington, tens of thousands of pardons have been granted.
The actions by President Trump to grant full pardons to 1LT Clint Lorance and MAJ Matt Golsteyn and restore the rank to Chief Gallagher is a clear warning to any commanders who consider siding with political correctness, self-preservation, or personal promotion over the wellbeing of our Warriors, it will no longer be tolerated.


The "presumption of innocence" will be maintained and the Rights of our Warriors will be preserved - that is what fosters and reinforces good order and discipline amongst warfighters.
I respectfully welcome any opportunity to discuss or debate the specifics of each of the above-mentioned cases, or any other case with which United American Patriots is involved, face-to-face with any media pundit, politician, general officer, etc.
I will acknowledge, after reviewing all the details associated with each of these warrior's cases, it is possible a few may still be convinced these Warriors are guilty of some wrongdoing.
However, no one will be able to deny each had their Rights violated.

More at: https://townhall.com/columnists/davi...rongs-n2556699

[Stratovarious]

''Trump Sentences Accused War Criminals to Death ''

If this is the actual title of the article, it is complete blsht, click bait and worthy of having his
career ended , today.

[RonZeplin]

''Trump Sentences Accused War Criminals to Death ''

If this is the actual title of the article, it is complete blsht, click bait and worthy of having his
career ended , today.

It's the real title alright, blowback happens.

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[Swordsmyth]

It's the real title alright, blowback happens.

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Blowback happens to cheating prosecutors too.

The pardons are required to rein in the rogue prosecutors violating rights if for no other reason.

[Swordsmyth]

It's the real title alright, blowback happens.

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Ron is taking all the charges at face value even though there are conflicting witness accounts and plenty of evidence that the prosecutors were cheating and violating rights.

Ron should look into both sides of the story before he comments on a controversial story.

[Swordsmyth]

It's the real title alright, blowback happens.

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McAdams trying to psychoanalyze Trump was disgusting, when does he go to work for the MSM?

I knew he couldn't be trusted when he took Macron's side against the Yellow Vests, he is probably the one feeding Ron the biased and incomplete info about this case.

[RonZeplin]

Ron is taking all the charges at face value even though there are conflicting witness accounts and plenty of evidence that the prosecutors were cheating and violating rights.

Ron should look into both sides of the story before he comments on a controversial story.

You leftist Romney/Trump Republicans need to watch a whole lot more Ron Paul vids, IMO.

[Swordsmyth]

You leftist Romney/Trump Republicans need to watch a whole lot more Ron Paul vids, IMO.

You and McAdams are the leftists.

You can't defend this biased and incomplete garbage or the tyrannical prosecutors so you resort to calling names like all leftists.

[angelatc]

You leftist Romney/Trump Republicans need to watch a whole lot more Ron Paul vids, IMO.

Sword acting like he has some inside knowledge of what really happened lol....

This whole "Ron is wrong ...." thing is happening with an ever increasing frequency. The eventual implosion is going to be glorious.

Although I do wish TPTB would nip this crap in the bud. We spent the last 10 years hearing how wrong Ron is about everything everywhere else on the internet - it really sucks that we have to hear it here.

Look what just happened - an angry little Trumpette just called a Ron Paul Liberty Report biased, incomplete garbage. And called you a leftist simply because you suggested he should watch more Ron Paul videos.

These are Ron Paul Forums. $#@! that noise.

[Swordsmyth]

Sword acting like he has some inside knowledge of what really happened lol....

LOL

It's not inside knowledge.
I posted the link to the thread:
Navy illegally spied on accused SEAL and his defense team

And another article:


Friday was a historic day for those who support and defend our rights and who volunteer to go in harm's way on our behalf - Our Nation's Warriors.
Each of the hundreds of thousands of people associated with United American Patriots, regardless of political leaning, is elated President Trump righted the wrongs faced by 1LT Clint Lorance, MAJ Matt Golsteyn, and Chief Eddie Gallagher.
In each of these cases and many others, there is clear evidence of unlawful command influence, prosecutor misconduct, and improper investigative actions.
Those media pundits, politicians, and even military general officers who sound off in disagreement, spouting moral platitudes about how President Trump's actions send a "bad signal," will undermine the military justice system, or negatively impact good order and discipline within the Armed Forces, are simply highlighting their own level of ignorance regarding each of these cases.
Our service members take an oath that states: “I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
Among other things, our Constitution specifically serves to protect the rights of every individual American citizen.


Whether it be free speech, protection from unwarranted searches and seizures, due process, impartial and fair trials, or excessive punishment, the Constitution is the defining document that separates American citizens from the rest of the world. It’s the founding accord that has produced the greatest country on the face of the Earth. Many have served and some have died protecting it and the associated lives, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of hundreds of millions both at home and abroad.
The implicit presumption made by our service members, while performing heroic, selfless, and, at times, near-miraculous acts of valor to uphold their oath to our Constitution, is that they themselves will be afforded its benefits.
Unfortunately, all too often, that is not the case.
We at United American Patriots review far too many cases where Warrior's Rights have been violated and honorable servicemembers face wrongful accusations of "war crimes" which lead to unjust convictions.
Whether motivated by politics, self-preservation, or personal promotion, confessions by the accused are coerced; enemy combatants lawfully killed by our Warriors are labeled as "unarmed civilians;" forensic experts with exonerating forensic evidence are dismissed and silenced; witnesses are intimidated and manipulated; attorney-client privilege is violated; exculpatory evidence is withheld from juries; known enemy combatants are used testifying against our Heroes - some enemy combatants have even been flown in to America, given an opportunity to testify, and then taken to Sea World prior to being flown back home and set free in Afghanistan (yes this really happened).



What is worse, senior military leaders make false and inappropriate statements publicly and to Members of Congress to protect their careers and the perception of the institutions they represent as opposed to upholding the Constitution and defending the individual rights of our Warriors.
Putting on display American values, such as due process, the presumption of innocence, and the rights of the accused should be the concern of our military commanders and their civilian leaders, not incarcerating our Warriors to prove political correctness or appease false allegations by foreign leaders.

The Founding Fathers granted the President of the United States the “power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses…” Since President George Washington, tens of thousands of pardons have been granted.
The actions by President Trump to grant full pardons to 1LT Clint Lorance and MAJ Matt Golsteyn and restore the rank to Chief Gallagher is a clear warning to any commanders who consider siding with political correctness, self-preservation, or personal promotion over the wellbeing of our Warriors, it will no longer be tolerated.


The "presumption of innocence" will be maintained and the Rights of our Warriors will be preserved - that is what fosters and reinforces good order and discipline amongst warfighters.
I respectfully welcome any opportunity to discuss or debate the specifics of each of the above-mentioned cases, or any other case with which United American Patriots is involved, face-to-face with any media pundit, politician, general officer, etc.
I will acknowledge, after reviewing all the details associated with each of these warrior's cases, it is possible a few may still be convinced these Warriors are guilty of some wrongdoing.
However, no one will be able to deny each had their Rights violated.

More at: https://townhall.com/columnists/davi...rongs-n2556699

But you already posted in the first thread I linked to so you SHOULD know about it.
But I forgot, you took the side of the cheating rights violating prosecutor back then too.

[phill4paul]

I guess no one heard that the medic actually ADMITTED to the murder. Of course he testified with immunity. So no charges or follow-up.

The only thing Gallagher was convicted of was posing with a corpse. Hardly My Lai.

[Swordsmyth]

I guess no one heard that the medic actually ADMITTED to the murder. Of course he testified with immunity. So no charges or follow-up.

The only thing Gallagher was convicted of was posing with a corpse. Hardly My Lai.

McAdams is misleading Ron in order to pander to the leftarians.
Leftarians hate the military and are happy to see tyranny used against it.
Many of them secretly hate Ron for having been in the military, even in his own organization:

Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty

Yeah, I’d have to agree this article was ill conceived. The point trying to be made is that most military intervention is not for the good of the country. It’s for the good of select special interests, and often to the detriment of the country as a whole, if for no other reason than the waste of US blood and money.

Where the article goes wrong is that it lumps all military members into a generalization that they fully support these wars and interventions, or that they are idiots. Considering how much support Ron Paul had from the military, this is not a generalization that should be made. There are obviously many individuals in the military that do not support unjustified war. Ron Paul himself often talked about this, and his military supporters. This article would only serve to alienate them.

I think people need to remember this guy, Captain Ron Paul a flight surgeon for the air force.

More at:
Tulsi Gabbard’s Military Nonsense

Leftists (including leftarians) are a plague and never should have been treated as anything but allies of convenience, anti-war is not enough, leftists never change:

[r3volution 3.0]

the president panders for votes from “support the troops”

That's the only real news here.