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  1. #61
    Between the two of them they could only name the two most open border leaders on the planet, Vincente Fox and Merkel. That says allot about where their priorities are.
    Last edited by kahless; 09-29-2016 at 02:48 PM.
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  3. #62
    Yes, they take the traditional libertarian open borders position. YMMV.
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  4. #63
    Whatever position they take, they have to know that these questions are going to come up and they need answers to them. Even if I agreed on 50% of what Gary Johnson says he stands for, I still could not vote for him because he is never prepared for anything. That shows he has no respect for the voters, and he thinks his sheeple will just vote for him because.
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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Keep on justifying his ignorance. This is a man who wants to be President of the United States. He wants a job that would require him to meet these world leaders and interact with them. If he can't name a single one he respects, then it is one more reason he should not be president. Negotiating with people starts and ends with respect.
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Whatever position they take, they have to know that these questions are going to come up and they need answers to them. Even if I agreed on 50% of what Gary Johnson says he stands for, I still could not vote for him because he is never prepared for anything. That shows he has no respect for the voters, and he thinks his sheeple will just vote for him because.
    No one's voting for him because they think he's going to be president. It's a protest vote, just like any other year. Except this year the Libertarian candidate is polling a few points higher than he usually does. He will never be in the White House and he will never have to negotiate with any world leaders.
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Between the two of them they could only name the two most open border leaders on the planet, Fox and Merkel. That says allot where their priorities are.
    Weld started with Shimon Peres, as an Israel hat-tip is expected of any American politician. Now he could have said Netanyahu, but Peres is consistent with them leaning more to the left, not the right (Likud).
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  8. #66
    They are really trying to "finish him" today. On CNN, they are putting together all of his gaffs, and saying that he is disqualified.
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Who is it YOU are humping, Phil?
    I suspect it's someone a bit more feminine.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    They are really trying to "finish him" today. On CNN, they are putting together all of his gaffs, and saying that he is disqualified.
    Threat level 3.
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    They are really trying to "finish him" today. On CNN, they are putting together all of his gaffs, and saying that he is disqualified.
    I'm going to take a wild guess and say they've probably never put together a reel full of video and pictures revealing all of Hillary's health problems.
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  12. #70
    I could honestly care less if he has a few goofs. He's not a crook like Clinton and Trump. If he actually somehow became president, he would have aides and advisors to brief him on world leaders he is about to meet.

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    They are really trying to "finish him" today. On CNN, they are putting together all of his gaffs, and saying that he is disqualified.
    They must be scared.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Whatever position they take, they have to know that these questions are going to come up and they need answers to them. Even if I agreed on 50% of what Gary Johnson says he stands for, I still could not vote for him because he is never prepared for anything. That shows he has no respect for the voters, and he thinks his sheeple will just vote for him because.
    So, what "world leader" do you respect? Answer immediately. I can't.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Whatever position they take, they have to know that these questions are going to come up and they need answers to them. Even if I agreed on 50% of what Gary Johnson says he stands for, I still could not vote for him because he is never prepared for anything. That shows he has no respect for the voters, and he thinks his sheeple will just vote for him because.

    How does ClinTrump have respect for the voters?

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    So, what "world leader" do you respect? Answer immediately. I can't.
    He should have known better not to try to answer it in the first place.
    Last edited by kahless; 09-29-2016 at 04:45 PM.
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  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    He should have know better not to try to answer it in the first place.
    I agree. However it's easy to say when you aren't the one in the lights. I'm not a Johnson supporter but this seems like a dumb thing to go after him about.

  19. #76
    It's fine to say there are none, just not the way he did. He tried to be cute and it is backfiring in the MSM majorly. I guess Gary has just plain given up. I hope the LP has learned its lesson. Go with the ideological hardcore Libertarian next time. Daryl Perry or someone. No more Gary Johnsons.

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I agree. However it's easy to say when you aren't the one in the lights. I'm not a Johnson supporter but this seems like a dumb thing to go after him about.
    Agree.
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  21. #78
    Elsewhere in the interview:

    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    GJ: "We should not be involved in regime change."
    GJ: "There have been three polls now conducted among active military personnel and I've been on top of these three polls."
    BW: "Wars have unintended consequences, both economic and military and moral."
    BW: "Militarily, all the weapons that we armed the rebels with in Syria and Libya wind up in the hands of ISIS."
    GJ: "As a result of those interventions, our men and servicewomen are getting killed, they're getting maimed, they're getting injured for the rest of their lives. And in this case, hundreds of thousands of innocents in these countries that get caught in the crossfire of these civil wars."
    GJ: "What are you gonna do about these atrocities? You know what, the atrocities are real. But what's not being realized is that when we go in to support regime change to address those atrocities, the situation ends up to be the same or worse in many situations."
    Great stuff also about Syria and troops on the ground, drugs are not a criminal justice issue and free market solutions to environmental problems.

    Johnson is a threat to Chris Matthews' adoration of Clinton. Ask yourself why the only clip from that interview you can find on Youtube is this supposed gaffe.
    Reposting myself again because I think it stinks that nobody here has any comments on the actual substance of the message that he trotted out to whoever was watching Hardball. euphemia can't even be bothered to give her habitual dismissal. That "mistake" was, like, 15 seconds of a 10-minute interview that contained some of the most off-the-handle anti-intervention talk to be seen in the media in the last 4 years. THAT'S why you're being diverted to 15 seconds that don't matter. Look! A squirrel!
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  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    Yes, they take the traditional libertarian open borders position. YMMV.
    Only for lefty libertarians.
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  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    Yes, they take the traditional libertarian open borders position. YMMV.
    lol. Go support fox and Merkel then.
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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I agree. However it's easy to say when you aren't the one in the lights. I'm not a Johnson supporter but this seems like a dumb thing to go after him about.
    guys been in the lights before. He panicked
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  26. #82
    Sorry, we've been to dinner. Look, this is the fact: Your guy is running for President of the United States. He shows up for interviews wholly unprepared to answer basic questions about things a President deals with every day. I suspect this kind of attitude is why New Mexico is in worse shape today than before Johnson was governor. What a mess.

    Just to be clear, agreeing with a leader is not the same as respecting how they conduct themselves go about business. We really thought a lot of David Cameron. He is a good man with respect for people, and he had the sense to resign when he could see the majority were no longer with him. We disagreed with him about Brexit. But it wasn't his mess to begin with, so it was hard to do the right thing politically and keep everyone happy.
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  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    guys been in the lights before. He panicked
    He panicked, he stumbled...call it what you will. I don't care. If he's pulling votes from Hillary like they say what do you care? I just don't see what the big deal is, so he had a brain fart. WTF? You've never had one?

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    He panicked, he stumbled...call it what you will. I don't care. If he's pulling votes from Hillary like they say what do you care? I just don't see what the big deal is, so he had a brain fart. WTF? You've never had one?
    This is a lot of brain farts for someone who wants to be President. I can't trust Johnson to be prepared to do the job.
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  29. #85
    Say what you will. he's finally getting press. And they've even asked Hillary about him. In other words, the press is acknowledging a third party.
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  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Say what you will. he's finally getting press. And they've even asked Hillary about him. In other words, the press is acknowledging a third party.
    The Johnson's bloopers and blunders reel has been running all day on CNN. He's getting a lot of coverage. They aren't even hiding the fact that they want Johnson out because they think he is taking votes away from Hillary.
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  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    This is a lot of brain farts for someone who wants to be President. I can't trust Johnson to be prepared to do the job.
    Well, who do you trust to be prepared to do the job?

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    This is a lot of brain farts for someone who wants to be President. I can't trust Johnson to be prepared to do the job.
    Don't worry. He's never going to be president. But if that's what you want to base your vote on, how prepared he is for a job he's never going have, go ahead and do that. I'm basing my vote for him on other considerations.



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Well, who do you trust to be prepared to do the job?

    Isn't that obvious silly? The Great Orange Hope, of course! This IS, Donald Trump Forums, right? /s
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  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Say what you will. he's finally getting press. And they've even asked Hillary about him. In other words, the press is acknowledging a third party.
    Exactly.

    This is what its been about since the beginning and the purists can't get their $#@! together enough to understand that this is bigger than just libertarianism. Its sad to have to say this over and over again but many libertarians don't want to expand the tent, they like having a small club of circle jerkers so they can tell each how how right they are and how statist everyone else is.

    That is why the libertarian party will fail, not the people who are looking to build coalitions.

    If Gary (or anybody) can get more than 5% of the general vote, the Libertarian party gets acknowledgement from many states as major party status as well as federal funds for the next cycle. But yea, stay purist and keep getting 1% for the rest of your life.
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