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    Exclamation US military wants US to manufacture foreign weapons

    Why would U.S. special forces want to manufacture Russian machine guns?
    Just watch any video of a conflict such as Iraq and Syria, and the answer becomes clear. Many of the combatants are using Russian or Soviet weapons, or local copies thereof, from rifles to rocket launchers to heavy machine guns mounted on pickups. Which means that when U.S. special forces provide some of these groups with weapons, they have to scrounge through the global arms market to buy Russian hardware as well as spare parts.
    So U.S. Special Forces Command, which oversees America’s various commando units, has an idea: instead of buying Russian weapons, why not build their own? That’s why USSOCOM is asking U.S. companies to come up with a plan to manufacture Russian and other foreign weapons.


    The goal is to “develop an innovative domestic capability to produce fully functioning facsimiles of foreign-made weapons that are equal to or better than what is currently being produced internationally,” according to the USSOCOM Small Business Innovation Research proposal.
    More specifically, USSOCOM wants American companies to explore whether it is feasible to “reverse engineer or reengineer and domestically produce the following foreign-like weapons: 7.62×54R belt fed light machine gun that resembles a PKM (Pulemyot Kalashnikova Modernizirovany), and a 12.7×108mm heavy machine gun that resembles a Russian-designed NSV (Nikitin, Sokolov, Volkov).”
    Applicants for the research project must produce “five fully functional prototypes, to include firing of live ammunition, of a foreign-like weapon that resembles the form, fit, and function of a Russian-designed NSV 12.7×108mm heavy machine gun.”
    However, USSOCOM won’t make the process easy by providing assistance such as technical drawings. Interested companies will have to make their own drawings of foreign weapons, acquire the appropriate parts and raw materials, and create a manufacturing capability.
    Companies will also have to “address the manufacture of spare parts to support fielded weapons.” In addition, they must be prepared to start up and shut down production as needed, as well as provide varying quantities of weapons.
    USSOCOM also emphasizes that foreign weapons must be strictly made in America. Manufacturers “will employ only domestic labor, acquire domestically produced material and parts, and ensure weapon manufacture and assembly in domestic facilities.”
    Though USSOCOM is starting with a pair of Russian machine guns, the research proposal speaks of foreign-made weapons in general. “Developing a domestic production capability for foreign-like weapons addresses these issues while being cost effective as well as strengthens the nation’s military-industrial complex, ensures a reliable and secure supply chain, and reduces acquisition lead times."

    More at: http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...ces-want-23495
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    May not get any takers , no money in it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    May not get any takers , no money in it .
    They pay $400 for a hammer, how much will they pay to be able to frame Russians etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They pay $400 for a hammer, how much will they pay to be able to frame Russians etc.
    You can just frame whoever you like by buying the real ones second hand like always .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    You can just frame whoever you like by buying the real ones second hand like always .
    True, unless you lose access to that market or you can't get enough for the large scale frame you want to pull off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Counterfeiting is a good way to destroy the value of something, the government isn't very good at counterfeiting though.
    Tell that to the Federal Reserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Counterfeiting is a good way to destroy the value of something, the government isn't very good at counterfeiting though.
    That's what they're doing.
    Last edited by Raginfridus; 12-05-2017 at 12:29 AM.



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    two types of dissatisfied libertarians

    “My oath to the office was that I would $#@! everyone to death, remember?”-Southpark

    The Bombing machine has accelerated, and it's interesting we been accelerated and we shouldn't be too shocked the president has been more consistent with accelerating the war on terrorism and that of course is vague and you can do anything you want if you're righting terrorism- but he said no he said he would actually do MORE bombing and he used some vulgar terms with how he was going to do it - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    two types of dissatisfied libertarians

    “My oath to the office was that I would $#@! everyone to death, remember?”-Southpark

    The Bombing machine has accelerated, and it's interesting we been accelerated and we shouldn't be too shocked the president has been more consistent with accelerating the war on terrorism and that of course is vague and you can do anything you want if you're righting terrorism- but he said no he said he would actually do MORE bombing and he used some vulture terms with how he was going to do it - Ron Paul

    ???

    I'm not sure what your point is.
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