Damn. There goes flag burning. No big deal, EPA probably would send a SWAT team to your house if you tried to burn a flag there.Originally Posted by Dary
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DING DING DING!!!
We have a winner!
The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.
Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass.
-Tao Te Ching, Section 57
Maybe. I was not old enough to follow politics for most of Bushes time. I am ready to accept that this may be a failed strategy. However people who were around during Bushes time think this is something new. So we will see what ends up being right.
I frankly can't stand leftists and now a days don't have time for them either. Trust in God emperor and everything will be alright.
Yes I remember the GW people, though it died down quite a bit when the recession hit.
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If I was president I would still Troll Danke .
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Personally I do not believe in flag burning , but people can do it if they have nothing more productive to do , it is certainly a wasteful act that will change nothing . Once I secede and defeat all comers and have my own Empire I do not even intend on having a flag. Maybe just a battle flag , then people will know when they see it they are going to be kicked to the dirt, LOL . That is how to make The Land Of Indians Great Again
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Would that flag be tied to a lance?Personally I do not believe in flag burning , but people can do it if they have nothing more productive to do , it is certainly a wasteful act that will change nothing . Once I secede and defeat all comers and have my own Empire I do not even intend on having a flag. Maybe just a battle flag , then people will know when they see it they are going to be kicked to the dirt, LOL . That is how to make The Land Of Indians Great Again
Yes , it has a certain flair like that .
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Yes, it certainly makes a statement.
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This is a strange tweet out of nowhere. Morning Joe was speculating that last 5-4 SCOTUS ruling of 1989 could be overtturned by Trump SCOTUS picks.
Seems unlikely to pass anytime soon. One theory was that he is throwing redmeat to his hardcore GOP base (many of whom see BLM and by extension Obama as "flag burners") just before he announces that Romney will be SoS.
Real:
Doctored:
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"Of the 158 Trump claims that PolitiFact has checked out, 95 have been rated either "False" or "Pants on Fire." That's 60 percent of all Trump claims."
To be fair, that is NOT 60% of all trump claims. That is 60% of what PolitiFact has checked. They could easily skew opinions with little dishonest statements like that.
I believe the % number is actually much higher
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Oh yea, PolitiFact is definitely bipartisan, bollocks:
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Lol a Trumpslurper pretending they know Liberty better than Gunny. That's hilarious.
I am the spoon.
It should be legal to burn the flag and save the first amendment of freedom, I would just add a protection based law which says American citizens also have the right to stop it too. Assault charges when videoed of a person trying to stop it are void, if people have to risk their safety to do it, then they will be less likely to do it.
Agree. I remember when Republicans were stupid about flag burning in the late 1980s. To me it is very simple, the flag is supposed to stand for freedom and that includes the freedom to criticize the president or even burn the flag. If a person isn't free to burn a flag then it really is a meaningless symbol.
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I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
This may be the best post you have ever written! My favorite, anyway.Personally I do not believe in flag burning , but people can do it if they have nothing more productive to do , it is certainly a wasteful act that will change nothing . Once I secede and defeat all comers and have my own Empire I do not even intend on having a flag. Maybe just a battle flag , then people will know when they see it they are going to be kicked to the dirt, LOL . That is how to make The Land Of Indians Great Again
Your Empire sounds like it will be The place to be -- how do I get citizenship?
Personally I do not believe in flag burning , but people can do it if they have nothing more productive to do , it is certainly a wasteful act that will change nothing . Once I secede and defeat all comers and have my own Empire I do not even intend on having a flag. Maybe just a battle flag , then people will know when they see it they are going to be kicked to the dirt, LOL . That is how to make The Land Of Indians Great Again
And why does nobody point out that trump's Chief of Staff made all his fortune at Goldman Sachs and then was slipped smoothly into a thought leader position after the mysterious death of somebody who knew too much? Bannon went from Goldman Sachs to website editor to presidential appointee without a hiccup. Somebody has the savvy to cause a flag-burning uproar on the day Goldman Sachs & Rothschilds take over. And it's not trump.
Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018
Freedom means something different to every person, just as the flag does.
The older I get the more I tend to look to history to help me define things.
It seems as though the here and now is fraught with too much drama from every faction.
In regards to the OP, this whole thread just seems like more drama to me given that flag burnin' has been addressed by the supreme court, quite recently in fact.
Might be a better use of time to question the cause of derision instead of some intimate object used to amplify said derision...
If flag burners upset Trump to the point he really wants to do something about it using his bully pulpit would be far more effective than trying to legislate.
I served in the military. I hold the flag as a symbol of my country, not of my government. I don't care if someone burns it. But I most definitely care if some authoritarian claims that he has the power to strip citizenship or throw in a cage the person who wants to do what they want with a flag. Rothbard already summed this up as a straight property rights debate.
https://mises.org/library/flag-flapKeeping our eye on property rights, the entire flag question is resolved easily and instantly. Everyone has the right to buy (or weave) and therefore own a piece of cloth in the shape and design of an American flag (or in any other design) and to do with it what he will: fly it, burn it, defile it, bury it, put it in the closet, wear it, etc. Flag laws are unjustifiable violations of the rights of private property. (Constitutionally, there are many clauses from which private property rights can be derived.)
On the other hand, no one has the right to come up and burn your flag, or someone else's. That should be illegal, not because a flag is being burned, but because the arsonist is burning your property without your permission. He is violating your property rights.
Note the way in which the focus on property rights solves all recondite issues. Perhaps conservatives, who proclaim themselves defenders of property rights, will be moved to reconsider their support of its invasion. On the other hand, perhaps liberals, scorners of property rights, might be moved to consider that cleaving to them may be the only way, in the long run, to insure freedom of speech and press.
Anyone who thinks throwing someone in jail for exercising their property rights is a moron and an enemy of liberty.... $#@!posters on RPF included.
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What the hell are you talking about? Private property is private! If I want to buy a US flag or Russian flag or Mexican flag and take it outside and burn it... my $#@!ing choice and no one is going to stop me! If someone forcibly attempts to stop me and it gets violent? $#@! them. God a lot of people here still don't understand the very basics of personal liberty and freedom. You want government to be your strongman....
-Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
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Author of, War is a Racket!
- Diogenes of SinopeIt is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
That is what I use . Flag burning is for kids .
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Are you really disputing the fact that Trump says a ton of complete, unmitigated bull$#@! that has no basis in reality?Oh yea, PolitiFact is definitely bipartisan, bollocks:
Your graphic has zero meaning.Oh yea, PolitiFact is definitely bipartisan, bollocks:
There is the possibility that Trump did say more lies than Hillary. In order for your graphic to have any meaning we would actually need a baseline to compare it to.
your lack of understanding of property rights is pathetic.
would taking down a flag in front of a post office and burning it be ok?..
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