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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Hes not wrong about his reasons to defund police but what libertarian limited government supporters do not consider is that if they join forces with communists to defund police, they're opening a can of worms that can NOT be closed. The BLM/Marxist/ANTIFA left has every major institution, art, culture, media, science, medicine, big business doing their bidding. You really think when cops are defunded and you stand your ground in self-defense against these psychotic leftists, that you will win in court and be on your merry way? Your life will be decimated, you and everybody that stands with you will be shunned from society.
66%+ of Americans want law and order and don't wish to defund police. USE IT don't FIGHT IT.
Even though the principles are mainly correct, Libertarian purists are some of the the DUMBEST political groups out there. Don't push for something that nobody wants. Push for things that people WANT and agree with what you believe. This is the best time for libertarians to gain support with GUN RIGHTS since background checks and gun sales are through the roof.
THE SQUAD of RPF
1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick
@Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:
Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.
7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I am unable to take seriously any attempt to pretend that the LP is not a front for communists after they bragged about replacing the best governor in the country with a Demoncrat in Kentucky.
They have been sliding further and further left and now they can't hide anymore.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Maybe that is what needed. Let it happen, let them try and let the purge of the Communist revolutionaries begin instead of the continual slow slide into Communism. Once we win, since the right is better armed, no one will want to go back to authoritarian police monopolies or anything resembling what the Communists put in place. Perfect opening for free market solutions as I described above and self reliance.
While we are at it the CEO's of monopolies which are really stepping stones for central Communist control should be next.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Anybody who is upset about his statements or thinking he is going to join forces with BLM, consider that he is still voting for Trump and I doubt he is going to cooperate with BLM. He just doesn't like the pro-police contingent of the conservatives, when we all know how many unconstitutional laws they enforce.
I don't think defunding the police in cities right now is a good idea and certainly not for the reasons cited by BLM. I think it is a great idea out in rural areas, and once the kinks get worked out it could be moved into suburban areas - maybe even cities some day.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
What we have is a group of socialistic culture warriors draping themselves in the mantle of ant-socialism.
...some cynically, some because they don't know what socialism means.
In any event, I can't imagine how the con could become any more obvious, in light of recent policies by the "anti-socialists."
...and yet here we are.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
*shrug* I couldn't care less about the LP, and haven't since 2000.
The LP is just another political party. As such, it is not it's purpose to get the candidates of other parties (re)elected.
If the voters in Kentucky are idiots, then that's their fault, not the LP's - and the LP masturbating itself over being spoilers doesn't make them crypto-commies.
Words have meanings, and accusations of "communist" are quickly becoming as empty and meaningless as accusations of "racist" ...
Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-03-2020 at 10:14 PM.
I was speaking of the GOP, sounds like you might be speaking of the Dems, and that's apt.
Both are socialistic culture warriors: one draped in anti-communism, the other in anti-fascism, both for the wrong reasons.
NSDAP v. Bolsheviks, in other words, albeit mild versions (for now anyway)
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
That "Whoosh" you hear is @John-G's point going right over your head.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
You act like that's the ONLY model for defunding the police.
Watch this:
That's from this thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...er-is-On-Point
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
I don't live in a fantasy land where the libertarian model for defunding police will be implemented. This is the only model that the liberals will implement. I called it months ago, while everybody else was going "herp derp libs are so st0pId this is going to backfire on them". Liberals are smart, they always have a plan. If they are pushing something you can bet it's going to go in their interest.
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
The liberal dreamers reach for their dreams while the cause here is total surrender mode and acceptance of them moving their plan forward as demonstrated in your response.
The morons on the right have the loudest voice and believe that. Unfortunately the thinkers and doers are not being heard and/or have surrendered.
The Conservative media and Fox News plays a large role in what I described. This must change and it is up to us here to make sure it does.
Last edited by kahless; 08-04-2020 at 06:44 PM.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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