You edited your retarded post after you read my response like you always do. Well I opened my mouth $#@!face, now what?Originally Posted by Natural Citizen
"The Patriarch"
And you're just a dumb $#@!er that likes to talk big on line because that's the only place he can. Piss off you idiot.
"The Patriarch"
Whatever bitch. Keep on mumbling incoherently, lol.
"The Patriarch"
It's good that we have you to act as the final arbiter of such things for us. All the rest of us are just too stupid and simple minded to figure out what does or does not advance the cause of liberty ourselves.
Your hubris is astounding.
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
But I'm right, O. And you know it. You're a big ol pussy. lol. You talk about being anti-government, hell you even tweet about burning down federal buildings, yet you reach into your little pocket, pull out your money, and say I'm giving it to a government candidate. That's pathetic. Don't you have any gosh darned fortitude?
And as far as trying to act big, I think it's the other way around. I remember when miss annie came over here and asked you to be a mod over at lc, they didn't give give you the controls, though, did they? lolo. Of course, when they got their ceis and desist in the mail, they didn't tell all of you wanna be riff raff that they cherry picked from over here why they had to shut it down, did they? You had no idea.
But you were soooo let down. You really wanted to be somebody, didn't you, O? So much that you and some others here I should name, buit won't for the moment started your own free forum and proceeded to take to twitter to get people from here to go over there. Just because O wanted to be somebody. lol. Now that's pathetic, too.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-15-2017 at 01:53 AM.
At least I know what anarchy actually means., You self-defined anarchists don't seem to know what anarchy means.
I asked you to share with us your wisdom.
You chose not.
I don't think you're capable. I think it's just a word to most of you. A fad.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-14-2017 at 08:24 PM.
I usually don't join in these debates (as I think it's a waste of time to talk about something that is never going to happen)...but I am genuinely curious to know the answer to NC's question about how things will be enforced. I still haven't seen anyone answer that. Just a lot of anger and mudslinging.
“I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other.”
― Henry David Thoreau
They can't. lol.
These people are the result of fads. Not philosophies.
I wouldn't trust these misfits to lead a lunch line.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-15-2017 at 01:53 AM.
Seriously? Lol, dude, seek help. You're obsessed. Ha ha ha ha.
"The Patriarch"
I think you're intellectually lazy and don't even know yourself.
Just a few of the MANY "schools" of anarchism:
Anarcho-capitalism
Anarcho-communism
Anarcho-primitivism
Anarcho-syndicalism
It's a good question and a matter of legal theory. Really beyond the scope of a forum post or 3, IMO. There are lengthy books by scholars about this if you're srsly interested. I'd have to search my records a bit, but I'm sure others here have some titles handy.
Anarchy historically means no rulers. That's what anarchy means. And every link you provide twists it into something else to insert a mechanism for a ruler. Much the same as we now have a half dozen different flavors of Baptist just because someone didn't like the tradional Baptist doctrine and proceeded to tailor their own version.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-15-2017 at 01:48 AM.
Yeah. Seriously. The didn't give you the controls, did they, O. But you wanted to be somebody so bad.
The fact is that you're worthless to the cause. You're a liability because you and others like you are extremist. You lack loyalty. People like you are the ones we see on the news shooting up buildings.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-14-2017 at 08:44 PM.
Yes. At the ripe old age of 56 I've decided to just jump on board with some fad. Couldn't possibly be tht I've been involved in this liberty advocacy thing for, quite literally, my entire life and after having studied MANY different systems and ideas to achieve liberty, decided that the most logically and morally consistent one that I could find was voluntarism.
Please spare me any more of your arrogance. Perhaps, if you ever manage to acquire a tiny smattering of humility, you might actually learn something. Until then, you're beginning to bore me.
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Dupe.
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Thank you. But I was hoping to hear it from someone here, in their own words, in a concise, summarized way. I think it was Swordsmyth who mentioned that it's impossible to not end up having some sort of government. Maybe he's wrong, but unless I missed it, I haven't seen anyone here address that.
“I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other.”
― Henry David Thoreau
The drugs they give you must be kicking in pretty good. Typing is hard when you have a rockin' buzz ain't it NC?
"The Patriarch"
The fact that some people have too much body fat does not mean that there is no such thing as too little.
Some things are inherently bad, others are only bad when you have too much.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Nope. I do not drink and I do not smoke and I do not take drugs.
I've seen your face, though. It's worn.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-14-2017 at 08:53 PM.
I see. And robbery, rape and murder are some of those things which are only bad if we have too much, apparently.
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
uh huh.
"The Patriarch"
First of all, it's in no way a matter of 'legal' theory. Do not confuse what is lawful with what is legal. Be careful what you thank someone for. You do not legislate liberty.
HB is a libertine. He is not a libertarian. In fact, few people on this board are libertarian. It's prominently a libertine board. Which is why we have so many confused people saying they're anarchists.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-14-2017 at 08:55 PM.
You really can't just "summarize" any theory. (Otherwise it wouldn't be systematic enough to be good theory) That would leave holes in it that beg questions needing more summary. Any summary you could get would leave you with questions requiring you to refer to source material in a bibliography, IMO.
"The Patriarch"
That is not what I said, government is one of the things that is only bad when you have too much or when it is malevolent.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Government must protect at least some of the weak to keep people following it, if good people don't get involved in government then the odds that it will protect many of the weak will be low.
The fact remains however that people will form governments, some with bad intent and others with good intent, people have an urge and a need to control their enviroment.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
$#@! right off with that, $#@!. That is a damn lie and you know it. (or perhaps "libertine" is just a "big" word that you just learned and don't fully understand and are trying to look smart with? regardless, you're wrong)
I was only thanking him for offering to give me book titles. Even though I wanted to hear someone here answer your question in their own words.
Just in case you misunderstood, I wasn't asking for a summary of the whole theory. I was only asking about how things would be enforced. It seems to me that there should be a Cliff Notes version answer to that question.
“I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other.”
― Henry David Thoreau
They can't. And they won't. If they were going to answer it, they would have. They aren't capable.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-14-2017 at 09:04 PM.
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