Trump Can't Attack Hillary On...Anything

[r3volution 3.0]

Your poll still doesn't answer why you claim Trump will lose AZ and MO and yet he had more votes in their respective primaries.

(The Hill) Poll: Clinton Leads Trump in Missouri

Hillary Clinton holds a slim lead over Donald Trump in their presidential race in Missouri based on a new poll published Friday, according to The Kansas City Star. Clinton leads Trump 42 to 40 percent in the DFM Research of Minnesota poll conducted on behalf of the United Transportation Union. The lead is within the poll's 3.8 percent margin of error. But the poll could be a troubling sign for Republicans who have taken Missouri in seven of the last nine presidential elections.

Romney won MO by 9 points, so that's an 11 point swing.



Romney won AZ by 9 points, so that's a 16 points swing.

Remind me again what exactly Hillary has credibility on to actually attack Trump?

Nothing much, at least nothing much that would appeal to you or I.

The point, I reiterate, is that she will bring out her base, and Trump won't bring out his.

[familydog]

Poll: Clinton Leads Trump is Missouri




Romney won MO by 9 points, so that's an 11 point swing.



Romney won AZ by 9 points, so that's a 16 points swing.

Oh, ok. You're right. I'll believe these polls instead of the actual primary results.

Considering you clearly have no interest in discussing the topic of my original post, I'll go ahead and pass on any more of your attempts to derail the discussion.

[r3volution 3.0]

Oh, ok. You're right. I'll believe these polls instead of the actual primary results.

Which have little if any bearing on the general election.

[CPUd]

He can't attack SWC HRC for double standard on the Wall?

Trump calls out Hillary Clinton for her support for Israel’s separation wall









Or her ties to Billy Graham who said this?



http://www.jpost.com/International/N...-stance-323953

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP, FEBRUARY 1, 1972)

NIXON: “Newsweek” is totally — it's all run by Jews and dominated by them in their editorial pages. The “New York Times, the “Washington Post”, totally Jewish too.

GRAHAM: And they're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff. But this stranglehold has got to be broken or this country is going to go down the drain.

NIXON: Do you believe that?

GRAHAM: Yes, sir.

NIXON: I can't ever say it, but I believe it.

GRAHAM: But if you get elected a second time, we might be able to do something.

(END AUDIO CLIP)





Or her close ties to her last supervisor DGP/disastrous war policies, SWCcare etc?



Obama kisses Secretary of State Hillary Clinton following his State of the Union address in front of a joint session of Congress on Jan 24, 2012.



Syria: The Strange US/Israel/Al-Qaeda Ménage à Trois
aniel McAdams at 15:44 pm EDT on September 28, 2012
A little more than a week after the extremists linked to Al-Qaeda by our own US government set up and murdered Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has announced that the United States would send an additional $45 million to the very same Al-Qaeda’s Syrian franchise.
Yes you read that right: The US is sending another $45 million to assist in Syria the same people it is fighting in Afghanistan and the same people who killed US Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/...enage-a-trois/



She can't be all that immune from examination of her track record.

Historic First Orange Presidential Candidate Trump can't attack her on any of that garbage because Historic FOPC helped to make that happen:

[CPUd]

[familydog]

Which have little if any bearing on the general election.

The number of votes one receives during the primary has no bearing on their performance in the general election. However, polls taken during that same primary season will predict exactly how the general election will go.

I take it back. You're very amusing to chat with.

[RandallFan]

Trump managed to hit Cruz & other Republicans from the right and left. Very easy to attack Clinton.

[r3volution 3.0]

The number of votes one receives during the primary has no bearing on their performance in the general election. However, polls taken during that same primary season will predict exactly how the general election will go.

I take it back. You're very amusing to chat with.

Trump's popularity among Republican voters, relative fellow Republicans Cruz and Kasich has no bearing on the general election.

Polls asking people who will vote in the general election how they will vote in the general election do.

Pretty simple.

[RandallFan]

No they arent.

The polls are asking..." Trump wants to torture Mexicans, Trump wants to imprison women, Trup wants to nuke Saudi Arabia, do you think this is a good idea, then they ask who they are voting for"

[familydog]

Trump's popularity among Republican voters, relative fellow Republicans Cruz and Kasich has no bearing on the general election.

Polls asking people who will vote in the general election how they will vote in the general election do.

Pretty simple.

Remember when Dukakis was up over Bush by 20 points? remember when Carter was up by 20 over Reagan?

Let's just decide every and all elections based on polls five months out from the actual election. That'll teach Trump...or something.

Keep it up. I love a good laugh before bed.

[r3volution 3.0]

Remember when Dukakis was up over Bush by 20 points? remember when Carter was up by 20 over Reagan?

Let's just decide every and all elections based on polls five months out from the actual election. That'll teach Trump...or something.

Keep it up. I love a good laugh before bed.

You will be surprised by the results on November 8th for the same reason you're supporting Trump in the first place.

i.e. a refusal to accept the plain facts in front of you

[CPUd]

Looks like Trump won't have to worry too much about WV in the general election.

[hells_unicorn]

I never violate Mencken's dictum.

Hillary will be able to afford the top PR men in the country, to make sure her responses are condensed into a form comprehensible to the average illiterate.

Trump won't.

Now, granted, Trump has the innate advantage of thinking at the same level as his audience.

But smart people pretending to be dumb will always have the edge on actual dumb people.

What the heck are you talking about? Trump is more than 10 times as rich as the Clintons even with their ill-gotten charity gains. Furthermore, PR men can't turn dog excrement into diamonds, and that is precisely what Hilldog looks like on camera (the former, not the latter). Dog excrement can not make simple arguments, it can only stink up the room and appeal to those who have a fetish for the aroma of methane. Granted, there is a healthy contingent of the population that is predisposed to said fetish, but too many of them are hooked on what Sanders is cooking, and Hilldog can't replicate it.

If you understood Mencken's dictum, you wouldn't be making bad errors like implying that the Clintons are richer than Trump, that's more falling into the caricature of what Mencken was mocking.

To everyone: I would like to just point out for everyone's general consideration here that most of the people assuming that Clinton is going to run away with this thing have been gloriously wrong about everything up until now. Not very persuasive if I do say so myself. I don't even like Trump and I'm actually looking forward to see how these people react when this is all over, it'll be "educational", if nothing else.

[r3volution 3.0]

Looks like Trump won't have to worry too much about WV in the general election.

I'm curious to see more polling out of TX.

The last poll (September) had Trump up 2, but his numbers have dropped nationally since then.

Romney won TX by 16 points.

[CPUd]

"dog excrement into diamonds"

[r3volution 3.0]

What the heck are you talking about? Trump is more than 10 times as rich as the Clintons even with their ill-gotten charity gains.

Trump is not nearly as rich as he claims, and in any event he isn't going to be self-funding beyond a token amount.

He said this in a press conference today.

Hence, he hired a former Goldman Sachs partner to run his fundraising operation.

Hillary will outraise him at the very least 2:1.

I'd guess more like 4:1.

Furthermore, PR men can't turn dog excrement into diamonds, and that is precisely what Hilldog looks like on camera (the former, not the latter). Dog excrement can not make simple arguments, it can only stink up the room and appeal to those who have a fetish for the aroma of methane. Granted, there is a healthy contingent of the population that is predisposed to said fetish, but too many of them are hooked on what Sanders is cooking, and Hilldog can't replicate it.

You're not understanding the situation.

Trump is Hillary.

Hillary is Trump.

The issue will be decided by:

(a) who can raise more money (that would be Hillary),

(b) who is more popular with their own base (that would be Hillary)

and (c) who provides the better foil to energize the other's base (that would be Trump)

If you understood Mencken's dictum, you wouldn't be making bad errors like implying that the Clintons are richer than Trump, that's more falling into the caricature of what Mencken was mocking.

I didn't imply that.

Read more carefully next time.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Trump can hit Hillary hard on a million different things. She is more vulnerable than most of the Republicans he steamrolled. It's just a matter of whether he is willing to do so.

[r3volution 3.0]

"dog excrement into diamonds"

They didn't bother putting David Duke on there, but I understand Trump has higher negatives than he did.

[CPUd]

Trump can hit Hillary hard on a million different things. She is more vulnerable than most of the Republicans he steamrolled. It's just a matter of whether he is willing to do so.

I don't get how people continue to believe this. Were you around in the 1990's?

Hillary Clinton Cashes In on Donald Trump’s ‘Woman’s Card’ Comments


ASHLAND, Ky. — When Donald J. Trump reiterated his claim during his Tuesday night victory rally that Hillary Clinton was playing the “woman’s card,” her aides heard something else: ka-ching.

Her presidential campaign had its best fund-raising haul yet in the three days after Mr. Trump, the Republican front-runner, made his remarks, bringing in $2.4 million through emails and the purchase of related products. Those included a hot pink “Woman Card” (“Congratulations! You’re in the majority,” the card reads), “Deal me in” T-shirts and a deck of cards with statistics like “Only 5 percent of Fortune 500 CEOs are women.”

The effort came together quickly.

At her victory rally in Philadelphia on Tuesday night, Mrs. Clinton had said, before Mr. Trump’s remarks: “The other day, Mr. Trump accused me of playing the, quote, ‘woman card.’ Well, if fighting for women’s health care and paid family leave and equal pay is playing the woman card, then deal me in.”

After the rally, as Mrs. Clinton’s private plane touched down at Teterboro Airport on Tuesday night, aides could hardly believe their good fortune that Mr. Trump had used the expression again. The campaign’s communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, called its digital director, Jenna Lowenstein. Over the phone, Ms. Palmieri approved a video that spliced Mr. Trump’s “woman’s card” comments with Mrs. Clinton’s “deal me in” retort.

Brian Fallon, a spokesman for the Clinton campaign, told reporters on Monday that the online video had been viewed three million times.

The campaign, which also said on Monday that it had outraised Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont for the first time in months, bringing in $26.4 million in April, said the “woman’s card” merchandise and fund-raising emails and text messages brought in 127,000 donations from 118,000 donors, 40 percent of whom had never given to the campaign before.

In other words, the Clinton campaign would like Mr. Trump to keep talking.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...card-comments/

[NewRightLibertarian]

I don't get how people continue to believe this. Were you around in the 1990's?

It ain't the 90's anymore. Hillary's got tons of baggage. You are just so blinded by Trump derangement syndrome that you can't see straight.

[CPUd]

It ain't the 90's anymore. Hillary's got tons of baggage. You are just so blinded by Trump derangement syndrome that you can't see straight.

I post evidence to support my claims, Trump supporters back their claims by "cause Trump said so".

[moostraks]

I don't get how people continue to believe this. Were you around in the 1990's?


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...card-comments/

Had you seen this op piece? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...2df_story.html


This part:

Consider her slogan, “Fighting for us.” For many men, this slogan would have to be experienced as emasculating. A woman fighting for them? Rightly or wrongly, the slogan rubs the wrong way in relation to traditional notions of masculinity.

Well, those guys who are that insecure are already either voting for Trump, or unlikely to support her no matter what she would pander to them on, and a slogan change ain't gonna change that. But, they keep espousing this need to pander on issues to overcome the gender perception will imo drive more support her direction.

And:

Personally, she should meet his insults with a cheery silence, or a lighthearted deflectionary joke. She needs to become Teflon — not to engage.

That didn't really seem to work for Cruz. The problem with ignoring Trump, it seems then that his arguments have merit. The woman card was well played imo. That fact that she was handily rewarded for hoisting teh Donald on his own petard appears to have escaped this writer. Putting an insufferable bully in their place is an effective tactic for engaging non-Trump sycophants, whomever the opposition is, and it will take someone skillful to do such without turning into a Little Marco rebuttal. Trump is imo extremely insecure at the core of his being. He can be the source of his own undoing. It shall be interesting to see what the future holds. Shame the result in the end is so irrelevant other than, perhaps, a few more folks become disenchanted with the process.

[moostraks]

It ain't the 90's anymore. Hillary's got tons of baggage. You are just so blinded by Trump derangement syndrome that you can't see straight.

Is that the flip side of the Hillary derangement syndrome?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Hillary+derangement+syndrome

[NewRightLibertarian]

I post evidence to support my claims, Trump supporters back their claims by "cause Trump said so".

A New York times article? Maybe you'll post something from William Kristol saying Trump is the big bad boogeyman devil next?

You've lost it, dude.

[CPUd]

A New York times article? Maybe you'll post something from William Kristol saying Trump is the big bad boogeyman devil next?

You've lost it, dude.

Yeah, I assumed the folks who read this forum know the difference between opinion and verifiable fact. What I posted was verifiable fact, BTW.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Yeah, I assumed the folks who read this forum know the difference between opinion and verifiable fact. What I posted was verifiable fact, BTW.

You became an establishment pawn because of your Trump Derangement Syndrome. How sad.

A few thousand feminist blithering idiots give Hillary some cash, and that's your evidence? Maybe you should join Bill Kristol with his anti-Trump neocon third party efforts. Sounds like that would be right up your alley.

[CPUd]

You became an establishment pawn because of your Trump Derangement Syndrome. How sad.

A few thousand feminist blithering idiots give Hillary some cash, and that's your evidence? Maybe you should join Bill Kristol with his anti-Trump neocon third party efforts. Sounds like that would be right up your alley.

Yet another attempted argument based on nothing but emotion.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Yet another attempted argument based on nothing but emotion.

It's clear you are very butthurt about getting called out and exposed. Buck up, champ. You'll get over it.

[CPUd]

It's clear you are very butthurt about getting called out and exposed. Buck up, champ. You'll get over it.

I get "called out and exposed" every day on this site since it got flooded with Trump supporters. You're just one of many.

[NewRightLibertarian]

I get "called out and exposed" every day on this site since it got flooded with Trump supporters. You're just one of many.

Yes, and clearly it has severely affected your judgment.