View Poll Results: Who is Trump working for?

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  • He is an agent of the deep, state, a puppet in a well orchestrated show.

    1 7.14%
  • He is an agent of Putin

    0 0%
  • He is an agent of Putin/Deep State/Putin or illuminati, freemasons, etc

    0 0%
  • He is an agent for himself. He is just in it for money and glory.

    8 57.14%
  • He is a populist. He is just trying to win 2020 by being popular.

    5 35.71%
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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    I know, that's what I just said. It's all substanceless.
    I agree, the dumbass poll is just, well, dumb.
    "The Patriarch"



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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    I dont think that Trump is their "agent" but he has been doing business with the Russians for a very long time.

    The premise is that due to his many bankruptcies, Trump was forced to turn to foreign funding as a way to maintain his businesses and lifestyle.

    The Russians were a big part of that and he seems to be somewhat beholden to them:

    Executive Talk: Donald Trump Jr. bullish on Russia and few emerging markets.



    As Ron Paul advocates, we should dialogue and trade with other nations.

    And lets be honest, Russia is on the right side of the Syrian conflict having sided with the Syrian government.

    But much like our own government, Russia's leadership has a horrible track record.

    From the Bolsheviks who killed millions of Christians to Stalin to the invasion of Afghanistan.
    So you actually think he is beholden to Russia?



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    Quote Originally Posted by MallsRGood View Post
    I hope to acquire a unicorn which $#@!s money.
    I have never seen a unicorn , but I have seen a three animals thought to be extinct .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I agree, the dumbass poll is just, well, dumb.
    I never expected you to even be able to gauge intelligence levels of anything.


    And I still don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I have never seen a unicorn , but I have seen a three animals thought to be extinct .
    Anyone heard from Danke?
    "The Patriarch"

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Also bet you anything Superfluous will not vote. Just make comments.
    I would vote if there were an option I liked.

    My vote is all of the above.

    Or Satan.

    You didn't include either in the poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    I never expected you to even be able to gauge intelligence levels of anything.


    And I still don't.
    Lol, the Trump troll is trying to get a rise out of me.
    "The Patriarch"

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Lol, the Trump troll is trying to get a rise out of me.
    We're not supposed to call the Trump trannies trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    I would vote if there were an option I liked.

    My vote is all of the above.

    Or Satan.

    You didn't include either in the poll.

    So you are a Christian, and believe he is an agent of Satan? And Russia, and the deep state?
    Whatever dude.
    If you think he is an agent for satan, then you're jsut a religious fundamentalist.
    Most Christians would not say he was an agent of Satan.
    So I think you are just trying to avoid publicly voting in the poll.
    I already called it, you won't vote in it, and fund 100 excuses not to.
    And it is because you have argued all of them. Even though some of them are quite mutually exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Lol, the Trump troll is trying to get a rise out of me.
    LoL

    You keep posting here.

    But not voting or adding to the conversation.

    U Mad.



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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    So you actually think he is beholden to Russia?
    I do.

    Primarily because of their investments in his businesses over the years.

    Although I dont necessarily agree, some have suggested that the Russians essentially "own" Trump.

    While I agree with the following, I dont think it stems from Trump's "ideals" of non-interventionism (lol) but rather his pro-Russian bias.

    Trump campaign guts GOP’s anti-Russia stance on Ukraine.
    Last edited by unknown; 03-17-2017 at 11:15 PM.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    LoL

    You keep posting here.

    But not voting or adding to the conversation.

    U Mad.
    Ya. Go with that.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Ya. Go with that.
    O u mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    So he is just in it for the money? To launder his money? Or someone else's money?
    And if ti is someone else's, whose?

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Anyone heard from Danke?
    No ,sadly that is a different animal .
    Do something Danke

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Did the deep state set him up, (same as all the other puppet elections) or do you think they are corrupting him?
    There's nothing to corrupt: no principles to betray. He's a reflexive leftist, because he grew up on leftist media and never gave politics any serious thought (like most people), but the reason he's serving leftism isn't so much that as that it's simply the path of least resistance (like for most politicians - hence the dominance of leftism). As for whether the big special interests supported him from the start or just fell ass backwards into the goldmine which is the Trump Presidency? Hard to say, speculative. At the outset, I doubt he was being supported by any of "them," or opposed by any of "them," or even noticed by any of "them." He probably ran as a publicity stunt and things snowballed from there, to the surprise of everyone, including Trump. To the extent that any of "them" ever opposed him later in the campaign, I'd say the reason was fear he would lose them the general election, not that he wouldn't be a pliant tool as President (which he clearly is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MallsRGood View Post
    I'd say the reason was fear he would lose them the general election, not that he wouldn't be a pliant tool as President.
    If he lost, then wouldn't President Madame Clinton be just as acceptable to "them"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Do you not know who that is a picture of?
    Do you not know what that cartoon means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    If he lost, then wouldn't President Madame Clinton be just as acceptable to "them"?
    There's the problem with this "them."

    There is no "them." There's a cluster of "thems."

    Some thems are in the Republican orbit, some the Democratic orbit.

    People say Dems and GOPers aren't really fighting over anything: not true.

    They aren't fighting over principles, but they are fighting over who gets the best spot at the trough.
    Last edited by MallsRGood; 03-17-2017 at 11:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    no- I don't know who's face it is, can you tell me?
    Yes you do. So stop playing games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MallsRGood View Post
    There's the problems with this "them."

    There is no "them." There's a cluster of "thems."

    Some thems are in the Republican orbit, some the Democratic orbit.

    People say Dems and GOPers aren't really fighting over anything: not true.

    They aren't fighting over principles, but they are fighting over who gets the best spot at the trough.
    You think the democrats and republicans are in different power orbits?

    By your logic then, the "they" were the democrats, and therefore did not want him to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Is the Washington machine gone? Do we have the American dream yet?
    Oh look at that, you did know.



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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    You think the democrats and republicans are in different power orbits?
    I'm saying that some special interests have more to gain from a GOP government than a Dem government, and vice versa.

    ...even though all the special interests are after the same kind of government-growing policies.

    And not just business lobbies, the upper echelons of the parties themselves are powerful political forces.

    Don't you think Reince Priebus is making more money now that a GOPer is in the White House?

    If so, don't you think he wanted the nominee to be as electable as possible?
    Last edited by MallsRGood; 03-17-2017 at 11:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MallsRGood View Post
    I'm saying that some special interests have more to gain from a GOP government than a Dem government, and vice versa.

    ...even though all the special interests are after the same kind of government-growing policies.

    And not just business lobbies, the upper echelons of the parties themselves are powerful political forces.

    Don't you think Reince Priebus is making more money now that a GOPer is in the White House?

    If so, don't you think he wanted the nominee to be as electable as possible?
    So is he a knowing, or unwitting agent of the deep state? Or do you think there is no such thing, just different groups vying for power, and he is a witting agent of the republican orbit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    So is he a knowing, or unwitting agent of the deep state? Or do you think there is no such thing, just different groups vying for power, and he is a witting agent of the republican orbit?
    He's a witting pawn of the GOP aligned special interests (which are mostly the same as the Dem aligned special interests).

    As Hillary would have been a witting pawn of the Dem aligned special interests (which are mostly the same as...etc).

    And the difference is negligible. Perhaps a little less cheddar gets thrown at the Solyndras and a little more at the Raytheons.

    Tomato tomahto from a libertarian POV.
    Last edited by MallsRGood; 03-17-2017 at 11:55 PM.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Doesn't answer the question. IS he an agent of the deep state, or "they" "TPTB" MIC etc, or is he out for himself?
    MY POV is himself 1st; TPTB 2nd.
    There is no spoon.

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