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    Marriage Is Declining Because Men Are Pigs

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    Kevin DrumMar. 24, 2016 5:07 PM

    Over at the Washington Monthly, Anne Kim muses on the spectacular decline in marriage over the past few decades:

    The seeming decline of marriage includes one major caveat: educated elites. When it comes to marriage, divorce, and single motherhood, the 1950s never ended for college-educated Americans, and for college-educated women in particular….The share of young college-graduate white women who were married in 2010 was a little over 70 percent—almost exactly the same as it was in 1950.

    ….It’s also seemingly only Americans with four-year degrees or better who appear immune to the broader cultural and social forces eroding marriage. In 1950, white women with “some college,” such as an associate’s degree, were actually more likely to be married than their better-educated sisters. Today, it’s the opposite. Though women with a high school diploma or less have seen the sharpest drop in marriage rates, the decline has been almost as severe—and ongoing—for women just one short rung down the education ladder, regardless of race.

    Why has marriage declined in America? Here’s my dorm room bull theory: it’s because men are pigs.

    I know, I know: #NotAllMen blah blah blah. That said, let’s unpack this a bit. Basically, an awful lot of men are—and always have been—volatile and unreliable. They drink, they get abusive, and they do stupid stuff. They’re bad with money, they don’t help with the kids, and they don’t help around the house. They demand subservience. They demand sex. And even on the one dimension they’re supposedly good for—being breadwinners—they frequently tend to screw up and get fired.

    In other words, marriage has been a bad deal for women pretty much forever. But they’ve been forced into it by cultural mores and economic imperatives, and that’s the only reason it’s been nearly universal in the past.

    Nothing has changed much about that. It’s still a bad deal for an awful lot of women, but cultural mores and economic imperatives have changed, and that means more women can afford to do what’s right for themselves and stay unmarried these days.

    But there’s one exception to this: the college educated. Well-educated men are fairly reliable; they have good earning power; they generally aren’t abusive; and they’ve been willing—slowly but steadily—to change their habits and help out with kids and housework. For college-educated women, then, marriage is a relatively good deal. For everyone else, not so much.

    And that’s why marriage is declining among all groups except the college educated. For an awful lot of women, it’s just a lousy deal. They’re tired of putting up with all the crap they get from men, and so they’re opting out. They’ll opt back in when men start to pull their own weight. There’s no telling when that’s going to start happening.
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    LOL, I just noticed this is from 2016.

    Yeah right, keep on thinking that...

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    If its a bad deal for women, then why do we care that its declining? Pick one.
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    That reminds me, I haven't asked Mr A for my divorce in a week or two.


    *I just noticed that we got new emojis. I usually just type in my emoji and rarely click the button. I wonder if timosemen's noticed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    He's quoting Anne Kim.

    Over at the Washington Monthly, Anne Kim muses on the spectacular decline in marriage over the past few decades
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    That reminds me, I haven't asked Mr A for my divorce in a week or two.


    *I just noticed that we got new emojis. I usually just type in my emoji and rarely click the button. I wonder if timosemen's noticed.
    Best I can tell he only needs one emoji .
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    Is there a chart for Mormons and immigrants ?
    Do something Danke

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    As long as my wives do what I tell them it is all good .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    That reminds me, I haven't asked Mr A for my divorce in a week or two.


    *I just noticed that we got new emojis. I usually just type in my emoji and rarely click the button. I wonder if timosemen's noticed.
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    When divorce became so tilted in the wife's favor and several generations watched it happen to their fathers and uncles and family friends then young men figured it was not an option almost as if they were following Christ's teachings about it and then they started thinking like the disciples:

    Matthew 19:10

    “His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.”

    King James Version (KJV)




    And that the crop of girls for the last few generations was even less enticing than those in the past didn't help either.
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    They demand subservience. They demand sex.
    And?

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    Men are pigs...lol.












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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Best I can tell he only needs one emoji .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Men are pigs...lol.
















    Ban, pls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Best I can tell he only needs one emoji .
    Two

    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    and

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
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    I'm sure it has nothing to do with losing half your $#@!, limited visitations to kids, alimony and child support, etc. Courts clean up their act, and maybe marriage will make a come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I'm sure it has nothing to do with losing half your $#@!, limited visitations to kids, alimony and child support, etc. Courts clean up their act, and maybe marriage will make a come back.
    And welfare.

    Over the years, I've run across several parents who remained unmarried so they could milk the system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    And welfare.

    Over the years, I've run across several parents who remained unmarried so they could milk the system.
    This is more common than you think.

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    But there’s one exception to this: the college educated. Well-educated men are fairly reliable; they have good earning power; they generally aren’t abusive; and they’ve been willing—slowly but steadily—to change their habits and help out with kids and housework. For college-educated women, then, marriage is a relatively good deal. For everyone else, not so much.
    The author assumes that marriage is a good deal for college educated women because they choose college educated men. This isn't the case. Marriage is a good deal for college educated women because of student loans, regardless of who they marry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Ban, pls.
    LOL - Men are pigs...







    (LOL - No it's not...the only value that nasty gash of yours has is whatever worth men place on it. There is a price ceiling, and you screeching harridans have reached it. Enjoy dry humping each other and living with your cats. - AF)






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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    LOL - Men are pigs...







    (LOL - No it's not...the only value that nasty gash of yours has is whatever worth men place on it. There is a price ceiling, and you screeching harridans have reached it. Enjoy dry humping each other and living with your cats. - AF)






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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    As long as my wives do what I tell them it is all good .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Men are pigs...lol.











    Dig in boys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marenco View Post
    Dig in boys!

    Please don't encourage him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Men are pigs...lol.












    The chubby one is kind of cute
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The chubby one is kind of cute
    You should get out more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The chubby one is kind of cute
    OMG, now TheTexan too.

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    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    (snort)

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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