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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I haven't back peddled at all. You've just made shyt up. I've noticed you have a tendency to do that.
    No I don't. That's just something you made up because you don't know what's important.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Again, there weren't people pushing through a "wall of police." That's not a "grammar error." That a description of what happened that just wasn't factual. Facts do matter.
    Again how many people is unimportant. That he was threatened and fearful of being attacked is. Keep deflecting from whats important. The truth does matter.



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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Fair enough. I'm still pissed at the lack of D.C. security. I'm shocked that I seem to be the only one saying this (other than Tucker freaking Carlson). But whatever.
    People have been complaining about the lack of law enforcement multiple times. It has happened in many places. It's obvious to the point of being expected. That you think you and Tucker are the only ones to notice point to your arrogance. Hey everyone look at me.

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Choosing sides?


    Leftist RPF'ers want you to pretend that there aren't communists in the streets calling for cultural revolution, setting businesses on fire, placing guillotines in public places, beating 71 year olds into the hospital, shooting into cars with families inside.

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    The mob prolly don't even know who Rand Paul is, they just got paid to assault him. They also prolly don't even know what a convention is.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I think all y'all need to take a chill pill.
    Why?

    I pretty much agree with everything you're saying here:

    1 - Yes, there should have been a security detail around him, especially under the conditions. They should have escorted him and his party away from the dangerous area, and provided cover, in the form of a secure vehicle of some sort. But he didn't.

    2 - Yes, the crowd around him, of about 60 to 80 people, didn't become overly violent. They were loud, abusive, vulgar, threatening and starting to get physically pushy. We do not have, or least I have not seen, video coverage of the time that elapsed before the extra cops got on scene that Kelly Paul was describing as "terrifying" as the mob moved shouting "we're gonna $#@! you up". Had Rand been carrying, that would have been enough justification to get his gun out and go to work. Given the fact there has already been two violent attempts on Rand's life, more than justified, I think.

    I don't know who the screaming bearded guy is or what context that is.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-29-2020 at 07:53 PM.
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  6. #125
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status...21402038411265

    I'm not a big follower of Cernovich, but he is full of himself, isn't he?
    To be fair, the reason the livestream was posted on this website while it was happening, is because I got a notification from Cerno. Do you know what he said that was "attacking" Rand Paul? He's not anti-Rand, he usually says good things.
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  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    OK, let's start with Kelly Paul's account:



    It starts at 9 minutes in.
    ...
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  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
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  11. #129
    The police officers who escorted Sen. Rand Paul through a crowd of protesters in Washington, D.C., this week should receive a "medal of some kind," President Donald Trump said Friday evening.

    Speaking to a crowd in Manchester, New Hampshire, Trump said Paul and others "walked out to a bunch of thugs" Thursday following his nomination acceptance speech.

    "Rand Paul was in big trouble last night. He's a good guy, he's a friend of mine, and that shouldn't happen to anybody," Trump said. "But here's the U.S. senator walking outside, and those four policemen should be brought over to the White House. We ought to give them a medal of some kind, and we're going to do it. We're going to do it."

    Trump, who has frequently called protesters "rioters" and "looters," went on to say that D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser "should be ashamed of herself" for the situation. He also threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act, which allows the federal government to deploy the military domestically.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/trump-police-...145937269.html
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  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Fair enough. I'm still pissed at the lack of D.C. security. I'm shocked that I seem to be the only one saying this (other than Tucker freaking Carlson). But whatever.



    You know, people on the left feel exactly the same about this:



    Which lead to this.





    I think all y'all need to take a chill pill. From my favorite movie of all time:

    Wow. All those people surrounding, pushing in on, and and screaming at Rep. Sarah Anthony. This is EXACTLY the same thing. Wow. thanks for keeping things real, man.

  13. #131
    This just showed up in my email:

    Dear Anti Federalist,

    You probably saw the news. After leaving the White House Thursday night, I was attacked by a mob of left-wing lunatics whose only goal is to cause trouble in our streets and cities.

    My wife Kelley and I were fearful but thankfully escorted to safety by multiple DC police officers, to whom we are very grateful.

    As they screamed, shoved, and threatened, I thought about how this scene is being played out in cities across our country, nearly every night for the past few months.

    Played out in Democrat-run cities, cities where they have allowed violence, destruction, and anarchy to reign supreme.

    I hope you’ll help show these violent mobs they can’t win, by voting this fall, by speaking up to local officials and supporting me as I run for re-election.

    They say you know you’re over the target if you’re taking fire. Well, I’ve had more than my share in the last few years.

    I was shot at by a lunatic Bernie Sanders supporter...

    I was assaulted, had six broken ribs, and lost part of my lung...again by a violent leftist...

    And now the same mobs that are burning city blocks, looting businesses, and killing people around the country attacked my wife and me.

    I’m not going to let them intimidate me. I’m not going to let them win.

    I hope you’ll stand with me today and say the same thing.

    It’s funny because it’s not even about ideology for these mobs. Want to know how I’m sure? Among their obscenities and threats, they also screamed “Say Her Name” at me, a reference to the tragic killing of Breonna Taylor in Kentucky.

    I’ve said her name as loudly and often as anyone. In fact, after meeting with her family, I authored the “Justice For Breonna Taylor” Act, ending the no-knock warrants that caused her death.

    I am THE SPONSOR of the thing they wanted done. But of course, that didn’t matter.

    It’s not what the current anarchy and violence are about. Legitimate protest has turned into indiscriminate mob violence, and that’s both sad and enraging.

    I hope it all comes to an end soon, and local leaders will come to their senses.

    But no matter what, I’ll keep fighting. I’ll keep fighting for justice. I’ll keep fighting for the bill of Rights.

    I’ll keep fighting for you.

    Please stand with me today

    In Liberty,

    Rand Paul
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  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Memory holed.
    God damn it...fixed.
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  15. #133
    Rand Paul is wrong. This is totally about ideology. This is the ideology that murdered millions in the Terrors in France, millions in Bolshevik Russia, millions in Maoist China...

    They will not allow themselves to be appeased.

    For the lives of ourselves and children, we can not afford to appease them. Communists love blood not money not freedom.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post

    It’s funny because it’s not even about ideology for these mobs. Want to know how I’m sure? Among their obscenities and threats, they also screamed “Say Her Name” at me, a reference to the tragic killing of Breonna Taylor in Kentucky.

    I’ve said her name as loudly and often as anyone. In fact, after meeting with her family, I authored the “Justice For Breonna Taylor” Act, ending the no-knock warrants that caused her death.
    Last edited by RJB; 08-30-2020 at 01:50 PM.
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  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Rand Paul is wrong. This is totally about ideology. This is the ideology that murdered millions in the Terrors in France, millions in Bolshevik Russia, millions in Maoist China...

    They will not allow themselves to be appeased.

    For the lives of ourselves and children, we can not afford to appease them. Communists love blood not money not freedom.
    Excellent point, you are 100% correct.
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  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    To be fair, the reason the livestream was posted on this website while it was happening, is because I got a notification from Cerno. Do you know what he said that was "attacking" Rand Paul? He's not anti-Rand, he usually says good things.
    Cerno has been shooting his mouth off about "the incident".


    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status...33882995568641
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  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Cerno has been shooting his mouth off about "the incident".


    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status...33882995568641
    I think he should lay off a little bit and not rub it in, but he's not entirely wrong.
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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think he should lay off a little bit and not rub it in, but he's not entirely wrong.
    Rand needs to reconsider pushing to let felons vote and start working to reverse that trend.
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  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think he should lay off a little bit and not rub it in, but he's not entirely wrong.
    Cernovich is wrong.

    The reform Rand pushes can largely be categorized under arrests/sentencing for doing drugs (victim-less crimes)

    Rand doesn't say we should go easier on crimes where actual victims are involved.
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  22. #139
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Cernovich is wrong.

    The reform Rand pushes can largely be categorized under arrests/sentencing for doing drugs (victim-less crimes)

    Rand doesn't say we should go easier on crimes where actual victims are involved.
    Cernovich is FOR Rand's reform bill, might want to watch the video before commenting. He is just talking about when Rand was against the federal government enforcing laws that the local governments were not enforcing, such as protecting federal buildings and businesses/homes/innocent people like Rand from looting/rioting when local governments ask for help.
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  24. #141
    Trump to Honor Officers Who ‘Took a Beating’ Protecting Rand Paul with Accommodations at WH Ceremony

    By Craig Bannister
    September 1, 2020

    President Donald Trump will honor the four police officers who protected Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) from a threatening mob as he and his wife were leaving the White House last Thursday, Trump said in an interview Monday.

    Speaking with Fox News Host Laura Ingraham, Trump made the announcement while contrasting the way media and Democrats portray his supporters when they peacefully protest with the way they portray violent left-wing mobs:

    “It's a peaceful protest. I mean, they were protesting. They weren’t - you know it's amazing. They want to protest and they get criticized.

    “The other people run through the streets, burn down storefronts, hurt people, beat people and kill people, kick people in the face - that would have happened to Rand Paul by the way and his wife, except that you had two, and then ultimately four, very good policeman who took a big beating. They took a big beating and they really saved Rand Paul.

    “In fact, we are going to bring them into the White House and give them some kind of accommodation because they really, they really - what they did was very brave, actually. I mean, can you imagine, I’m saying policemen were brave because they were escorting, but they’re escorting a U.S. senator and his wife and, as Rand said, he would have been killed if they weren't there.”
    https://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-banni...ommodations-wh

  25. #142
    The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia charged a 27-year-old man from Florida on Wednesday with one count of assault for attacking a Metropolitan police officer on the final night of the Republican National Convention.

    Federal prosecutors allege that Brennen Sermon of Orlando was in the vicinity of a scuffle between Sen. Rand Paul and angry rioters who hurled insults at him and his wife, Kelley Ashby Paul. Sermon is accused of punching a Metropolitan police officer in the face following an earlier confrontation in which Sermon shoved an officer who was protecting the Pauls during a night of tense demonstrations in the nation's capital.

    "One of the brave DC cops who likely saved Kelley and me was assaulted by one of the violent mob," Paul tweeted following the arrest. "The attacker was arrested and charged with assault, then released. (If you’re looking for him, maybe try Kenosha)."

    More at: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...y-of-rand-paul
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