As Israel moves right, young American Jews target Birthright tours in protest

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While GOP-Jarvanka wing has been busy cozying up with Israeli settlers and pushing war in Syria, a different kind of organic movement is spreading across America that has potential to cut US taxpayers' support for our closest ally & the only non-racist democracy in mideast:

As Israel moves right, young American Jews target Birthright tours in protest

An American Jewish anti-occupation group, IfNotNow, is protesting tours that they say ignore Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories.
by F. Brinley Bruton / Sep.09.2018



A small unit of Israeli soldiers walks past sisters Clare, left, and Leah Jordan, natives of Kansas City, as they walk through East Jerusalem's Old City.Tanya Habjouqa / for NBC News
JERUSALEM — For nearly 20 years, the Birthright program has been a rite of passage for hundreds of thousands of young American Jews, who get a free trip to Israel along with a tour that shows the country in a very positive light.
But in recent weeks, the same discomfort that many Americans Jews feel about the current Israeli government, and in particular its continued occupation of the West Bank, has been reflected in some of the tours. An American anti-occupation group, called IfNotNow, has organized walkouts by a few Birthright participants, hoping the resultant publicity will inspire other young tourists to make the same gesture, and pressure American Jews to reassess its support for Israeli policies.
In June, that led to a chaotic scene on one of the tour buses. Bethany Zaiman of Washington stood up and announced that she and four others would leave the bus to “learn about the occupation from the perspective of Palestinians,” and would visit the West Bank.
The Israeli tour guide interrupted her several times, and — as seen on a video that was shown on Facebook on June 28 — erupted as the group was leaving.
“No Palestinian is going to send me away from here!” the guide said.
Moments later, a male Birthright participant wearing a white T-shirt and holding what appears to be an American flag, pointed at Zaiman and said: “Guess what’s going to happen. You’re going to get killed, you’re going to get raped.”


“There is a tremendous fear about speaking honestly and openly about these Israeli, about Palestinians struggles, about these complexities, because you could lose your job.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/i...rotest-n906826



Relational


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYHq1qG8aBE

[RonZeplin]

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This trend is gaining momentum.

Be interesting to see what impat this has on widely respected anti-nepotism champion Kushner funded settlements there.

[thoughtomator]

It's sad that you have such a severe case of Israel Derangement Syndrome that you are actually promoting Communist propaganda here and aren't named Zippy.

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Are you anti-communist? If so, did you know that Israel has massive communes living based on communist ideologies and has been a commie country for much of its history.











You don't believe that Israeli lobbies (not all of them nefarious like Andrew Adler type Israeli Firsters) have excessive influence over US foreign interventions policies? You believe that $3 Billions/year tax payers funded regime had nothing to do with 9/11 blowback, Iraqi freedom war that caused massive damage to America... impact of which will last for many decades if not centuries?

[thoughtomator]

Let me provide more detail on just how much of the Communist Kool-Aid you are swallowing here.

1) Head on over to http://ifnotnowmovement.org

2) Click on Who We Are and About Us and notice how conspicuous the lack of any named individual is.

3) Click over to Blog and we can finally get a name: Rebecca Millberg.

4) Look up Rebecca Millberg on Twitter. Here she is: https://twitter.com/rebeccamillbs

5) Note her profile and recent tweets. This is definitely the same Rebecca Millberg, as no other can be found, and this one is promoting the same ifnotnow thing.

6) Note that the primary self descripton in the profile is "Organizing Fellow @ JOIN for Justice"

7) Look up "JOIN for Justice". Find its Twitter account. https://twitter.com/JewishOrganizer

8) Read profile of JOIN for Justice account:

JOIN for Justice, the Jewish Organizing Institute and Network for Justice, is a nat'l org that trains and supports Jewish organizers to work for social justice

9) Smack yourself in the forehead now that it's been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you have been tricked into promoting Communism.

[thoughtomator]

Are you anti-communist?

Yes I am stridently anti-Communist, as you can expect any genuine libertarian and genuine Ron Paul supporter to be.

And unless you admit that you have been tricked into promoting Communist propaganda because it appeals to your anti-Israel prejudice, I will have to suspect that you are in reality also a Communist.

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I'm stridently anti-killing-babies of any chosen/non-chosen race even if some try to justify it using religious extremist dogmas from thousamds of years ago or past trauma from abuse by another group.
If for cause of peace I need to sit in a peace loving commune, I could live with that. But not the kind of luny commune that extremist Michelle Bachmann used to live in holyland.

[thoughtomator]

I'm stridently anti-killing-babies of any chosen/non-chosen race even if some try to justify it using religious extremist dogmas from thousamds of years ago or past trauma from abuse by another group.

You're promoting Communism on a Ron Paul forum.

I have proven this beyond dispute - indeed, even you cannot dispute it, you know it is true.

Your agenda does not justify the promotion of totalitarian ideology here. By any means necessary is the credo of evil men, and that is the excuse you are giving for your grossly irresponsible behavior.

If for cause of peace I need to sit in a peace loving commune, I could live with that.

OK, never mind the "tricked" part. You are a Communist. You do not belong on a liberty forum or anywhere near a liberty anything. You should be dropped out of a helicopter.

[enhanced_deficit]

I don't think you are as overly emotional and jumper to conclusions based on half-a-word assumptons as you may come across as Get some rest and reread things.

Never understood why some people get so emotional to defend a foreign parasite state living on US taxpayers charity. If you are a true libertarian, you should be calling for end to blowback generating intervetions/massive wars spending and cutting off all foreign aid including to largest parasite state regardless of foreign lobbies massive interference in US political system.

[timosman]

I don't think you are as overly emotional and jumper to conclusions based on half-a-word assumptons as you may come across as Get some rest and reread things.

Never understood why some people get so emotional to defend a foreign parasite state living on US taxpayers charity. If you are a true libertarian, you should be calling for end to blowback generating intervetions/massive wars spending and cutting off all foreign aid including to largest parasite state regardless of foreign lobbies massive interference in US political system.

Look, I do not know how to tell you, but you better be not criticizing Israel, m'kay?

[thoughtomator]

I don't think you are as overly emotional and jumper to conclusions based on half-a-word assumptons as you may come across as Get some rest and reread things.

Never understood why some people get so emotional to defend a foreign parasite state living on US taxpayers charity. If you are a true libertarian, you should be calling for end to blowback generating intervetions/massive wars spending and cutting off all foreign aid including to largest parasite state regardless of foreign lobbies massive interference in US political system.

I'm not defending anything. I'm calling you out for promotion of Communism. As I proved here, I can spot Communist propaganda a million miles away.

I am not operating within your worldview, and your imposition of motive and ideology upon me are false ones.

Your flawed ideology and worldview does not excuse promotion of the most murderous, liberty-destroying creed ever conceived by the mind of man.

[enhanced_deficit]

With all due respect, I have natural inclination to 'criticize everything and everybody'. It's a bad habit

[timosman]

I'm not defending anything. I'm calling you out for promotion of Communism. As I proved here, I can spot Communist propaganda a million miles away.

I am not operating within your worldview, and your imposition of motive and ideology upon me are false ones.

Your flawed ideology and worldview does not excuse promotion of the most murderous, liberty-destroying creed ever conceived by the mind of man.

That's pretty heavy.

[thoughtomator]

Let me be perfectly clear: I don't give a damn how much you want to criticize Israel. Go to town. Have fun. Enjoy and do it all day and all night if it pleases you.

The moment you start promoting Communism, however, regardless of your justification, you declare yourself the mortal enemy of all who seek liberty.

And that is exactly what you are doing in promoting propaganda from a openly self-declared Communist organization.

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As I proved here, I can spot Communist propaganda a million miles away.

How did you gain this expertise? I'm somewhat familair with socialism principles like Obama-care, taxing system, welfare programs etc but communism I know very little about so far other than vague idea about Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Israel systems. Can you receommend any good books?

In quick lookup of communism in US, articles like this popped up:

Hunting communists? They were really after Jews

In his new book, JC columnist Michael Freedland argues that the Hollywood trials held by the House Un-American Activities Committee were antisemitic. He explains why.

https://www.thejc.com/culture/featur...r-jews-1.10702

[thoughtomator]

How did you gain this expertise?

Decades of watching the Democratic Party operate in the United States, and its equivalents abroad. I know every technique in their playbook backwards and forwards.

An anti-Israel American Jew is one of the reddest of flags for Communism, and a trivial amount of background research confirmed the suspicion. I'm sure there are American Jews who are anti-Israel but aren't Communist... somewhere... but they are rarer than hen's teeth. But I confirmed to make sure I wasn't just acting out of prejudice.

[timosman]

An anti-Israel American Jew is one of the reddest of flags for Communism, and a trivial amount of background research confirmed the suspicion. I'm sure there are American Jews who are anti-Israel but aren't Communist... somewhere... but they are rarer than hen's teeth. But I confirmed to make sure I wasn't just acting out of prejudice.

That's quite a story.

[thoughtomator]

Saying you want peace when one of the parties involved in the conflict is Islamic is also a red flag for Communism by the way.

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Decades of watching the Democratic Party operate in the United States, and its equivalents abroad. I know every technique in their playbook backwards and forwards.

An anti-Israel American Jew is one of the reddest of flags for Communism, and a trivial amount of background research confirmed the suspicion. I'm sure there are American Jews who are anti-Israel but aren't Communist... somewhere... but they are rarer than hen's teeth. But I confirmed to make sure I wasn't just acting out of prejudice.

Ok.

Now that you've established that communism is evil, in principle do you/did you support communist hunting agenda of the then widely respected 'House Un-American Activities Committee' ?


I'm out, good night

[thoughtomator]

Ok.

Now that you've established that communism is evil, in principle do you/did you support communist hunting agenda of the then widely respected 'House Un-American Activities Committee' ?


I'm out, good night

Have you the slightest degree of self-awareness as to the extent to which you entirely switch topics in order to keep supporting what has been exposed as completely unsupportable?

STOP. PROMOTING. COMMUNISM.