CSPAN Live right now (link) Feinstein announcing firearms ban legislation...!

[jkr]

we are all terr-or-us now

[Cowlesy]

Schumer saying that the original assault ban did much to curb crime. No studies have shown this. Schumer saying they don't want to take away your hunting rifles. Stating Heller decision allows limitations on Bill of Rights.

ETA: The police are OUTGUNNED! lololol

I can only speak for my family, but before the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, no one in our house had a black rifle/"modern sporting rifle"/assault rifle. Because, well, we lived in about the most common rural/town neighborhood where you leave the doors unlocked at night, and don't even think about it. In fact if you talk to an Outdoor Goods/Hunting store, many of them maybe had one or two black rifles, probably in the corner, that no one wanted. Then all of a sudden, Bill Clinton and friends decided to tell us what we could and could not have.

**That was the impetus for so many of these going into circulation, in my opinion.** Once the ban hit the sunset provision in 2004, it was game-on to buy them up.

If anyone should be "blamed" for the proliferation of these black rifles, it's really the Democrats. Now, people buy them not because they live in a neighborhood where you definitely need a 30rd mag-supporting rifle to survive, but simply because you don't TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT HAVE TO DEFEND OURSELVES.

The part of the whole debate that kills me, is that it is pure politics. Their legislation solves nothing. Cho Seung Yui, Adam Lanza, Holmes, --- they'd all still what they're going to do, regardless of weather the legislation is in place. And frankly, mass shootings are so rare, that if the goal is to prevent deaths in this country by acts of malice, they aren't even going after the biggest sources.

Just stupidity; an absence of not just reason, but of American tradition.

[phill4paul]

President of Police Chiefs association, Charles Ramsey: Oh noes!.. the firepower on the streets our officers have to face everyday.

Showing a display of defense weapons used in cherry picked crimes.

[kcchiefs6465]

If you were the Sinaloa cartel, you could.

Do they have DEA shipping?

[jbauer]

How many times has "this is just the start" been said. This crap is going to get real.

[tangent4ronpaul]

If you shoot something with something like that (.223 cal) there will be nothing left to eat!

LOL!

OH ICK - that ugly thing again! VOMIT!!!!

-t

[phill4paul]

I can only speak for my family, but before the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, no one in our house had a black rifle/"modern sporting rifle"/assault rifle. Because, well, we lived in about the most common rural/town neighborhood where you leave the doors unlocked at night, and don't even think about it. In fact if you talk to an Outdoor Goods/Hunting store, many of them maybe had one or two black rifles, probably in the corner, that no one wanted. Then all of a sudden, Bill Clinton and friends decided to tell us what we could and could not have.

**That was the impetus for so many of these going into circulation, in my opinion.** Once the ban hit the sunset provision in 2004, it was game-on to buy them up.

If anyone should be "blamed" for the proliferation of these black rifles, it's really the Democrats. Now, people buy them not because they live in a neighborhood where you definitely need a 30rd mag-supporting rifle to survive, but simply because you don't TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT HAVE TO DEFEND OURSELVES.

The part of the whole debate that kills me, is that it is pure politics. Their legislation solves nothing. Cho Seung Yui, Adam Lanza, Holmes, --- they'd all still what they're going to do, regardless of weather the legislation is in place. And frankly, mass shootings are so rare, that if the goal is to prevent deaths in this country by acts of malice, they aren't even going after the biggest sources.

Just stupidity; an absence of not just reason, but of American tradition.

This aspect should definitely not be discounted.

[phill4paul]

More victims. More emotional appeal.

[phill4paul]

Feinstein: Guns designed for military use. How many semi-auto rifles did the military buy last year?

[jbauer]

Feinstein: Guns designed for military use. How many semi-auto rifles did the military buy last year?

In fairness the Homeland security etal bought millions of rounds to cut off supply to the people.

[phill4paul]

Well, that was a nice little gun grabbing circle jerk.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I really hope she doesn't live through the night

What a TRAITOR!!!!

-t

[TheTexan]

It's amazing listening to them bray about doing this "for the children." Very sad; very sad that such dangerous people hold such great power in this country. I think Sen. Feinstein said that since the ban was lifted in 2004, 350 people have perished from "assault rifles" in the USA? That few???? We're going to infringe on the rights of 300 million people for that? I know it's insensitive, but based on the raw numbers, this has NOTHING to do with public safety, and everything to do with a power grab.

Ya. Sorta like how England banned assault rifles because of a school shooting tragedy, and then a few years later got an *even worse* school shooting with handguns.

They then banned handguns. (Where this is all headed obviously)

[jbauer]

tangent,

Don't say that stuff here. We are a non-violent group. The last thing we need is something happening and the new quoting stuff from here or any other liberty site.

[tangent4ronpaul]

In fairness the Homeland security etal bought millions of rounds to cut off supply to the people.

HAY - AND DON'T FORGET - i BELIEVE THAY IS AT LEAST 5.5 ROUNDS IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US!!!

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

Ya. Sorta like how England banned assault rifles because of a school shooting tragedy, and then a few years later got an *even worse* school shooting with handguns.

They then banned handguns. (Where this is all headed obviously)

Wait till they ban hammers! - and then rocks!... OH WAIT!!!!

-t

[jbauer]

HAY - AND DON'T FORGET - i BELIEVE THAY IS AT LEAST 5.5 ROUNDS IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US!!!

-t

Well, 5.5 per person that more lead then what most of the surviors had so I'd assume we'll all be dead.

[tangent4ronpaul]

tangent,

Don't say that stuff here. We are a non-violent group. The last thing we need is something happening and the new quoting stuff from here or any other liberty site.

Wasn't suggesting someone here or anywhere off her. Just praying for a bolt of lightning or an unexpected impact with a semi for that treasonous BITCH!

-t

[jbauer]

Wasn't suggesting someone here or anywhere off her. Just praying for a bolt of lightning or an unexpected impact with a semi for that treasonous BITCH!

-t

Now that is perfectly acceptable. If you've got a God, now would be a time to call in a favor!!!!

[paulbot24]

How long has this bill been ready? Is this something she's had in her desk, just waiting for the right time, or is it actually something new they threw together in the last month?

[TheTexan]

How long has this bill been ready? Is this something she's had in her desk, just waiting for the right time, or is it actually something new they threw together in the last month?

She's probably had this bill on hand for 79 years, just waiting for the opportunity

[phill4paul]

How long has this bill been ready? Is this something she's had in her desk, just waiting for the right time, or is it actually something new they threw together in the last month?

The skeleton of this bill was the 1994 assault weapons ban. They just put it on steroids and waited for a 'crisis' moment.

[kcchiefs6465]

She's probably had this bill on hand for 79 years, just waiting for the opportunity

Wasn't her husband killed by gun violence? I'm not really sure if I'm confusing her with another gun grabber or not. Their tones are all eerily alike.

[69360]

I'm laughing. This will never pass the house in a million years.

[kcchiefs6465]

I'm laughing. This will never pass the house in a million years.

This? Or Hurricane Sandy relief? Because I seem to recall hearing the same thing about both.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I'm laughing. This will never pass the house in a million years.

They set up a fan and dumped a lot of really wet fecal matter in front of it. There were what, 20-30 pieces that stuck to the wall? I think we are going to loose some rights, but won't have a full AW ban.

background checks - probably.

mag capacity - maybe.

don't know beyond that, but I think that is as far as they will get.

Maybe some mental health stuff - that will be a trojan for excluding all but the blessed. That's the one to be scared of!

-t

[TheTexan]

I'm laughing. This will never pass the house in a million years.

There's only a handful of votes in the house that can't be bought. Always remember that...

[osan]

It's amazing listening to them bray about doing this "for the children." Very sad; very sad that such dangerous people hold such great power in this country. I think Sen. Feinstein said that since the ban was lifted in 2004, 350 people have perished from "assault rifles" in the USA? That few???? We're going to infringe on the rights of 300 million people for that? I know it's insensitive, but based on the raw numbers, this has NOTHING to do with public safety, and everything to do with a power grab.

Insensitive? How so? Is it ever insensitive to shine the light of truth and reason on such issues?

Resist the Kool-Aid pal - the forces of the Kool-Aid Brigade are great.

[Acala]

This? Or Hurricane Sandy relief? Because I seem to recall hearing the same thing about both.

Nobody really objects to handing out money because it is just another little squirt in a waterfall of spending (not that it isn't ruining the country). But gun owners get PISSED and throw people out of office. It has happened before and it is going to be even worse this time because the internet is allowing faster and better organizing.

[Acala]

There's only a handful of votes in the house that can't be bought. Always remember that...

But who is going to pay for it? There is no money in banning guns. If anything, the money is on the other side. I would be the last to say that these bills will be defeated by patriotic representatives defending the Constitution. On the contrary, they will be defeated by representatives who are afraid of losing their phony balony jobs. Help them to cultivate that fear.