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Thread: Trump admin prepares charges to seek arrest of WikiLeaks' Julian Assange

  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    There's no reason to be confused - like many other things, Trump supported Wikileaks when it was politically convenient to him.
    But that answer isn't complicated enough.

    Honestly, there was no reason for CNN, Infowars or the National Enquirer to even write an article about this. The headline that everybody has known the whole time is "Guy Who Wanted To Hang Snowden Also Wants To Hang Assange."

    Duh.

    Duh.

    Duh.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018



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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    But that answer isn't complicated enough.

    Honestly, there was no reason for CNN, Infowars or the National Enquirer to even write an article about this. The headline that everybody has known the whole time is "Guy Who Wanted To Hang Snowden Also Wants To Hang Assange."

    Duh.

    Duh.

    Duh.
    The man himself can admit on video he only cared about them because they were damaging his opponent, but now they need to be shut down. Show his supporters the video, they will say, "he didn't say that!"
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    LOL! Parroting the CNN narrative, I see. They still think Trump is a Russian operative too.
    https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.

  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    The man himself can admit on video he only cared about them because they were damaging his opponent, but now they need to be shut down. Show his supporters the video, they will say, "he didn't say that!"
    It's a video, not even words!
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.

  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If we did, you'd say that at least it's not 500K.
    No, that is not what I would say.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    It's a video, not even words!
    Are you confused at what was meant by that statement?

    It was not actions, nor was it words that he said, but merely a tweet.

    In this case, we have CNN and WaPo sources claiming that the Trump administration is going to do something.

    And based on CNN's sources, everybody freaks out, instead of waiting to see if it is even real or not, and then waiting for his actions.. because Trump operates differently from a lot of people. He uses strategies that keep people second guessing so that he can ultimately get what he wants.

    If you watched the State of Trump Address, you would know the ACTIONS he has taken have actually been very beneficial, and I'm not talking about foreign policy I'm talking about all the other things he has done that don't seem to get much discussion around here.. for example, two regulations still have to be repealed if you want to add a new one. All kinds of actions that are moving toward shrinking federal agencies. Neil Gorsuch. Good on 99 out of 100 issues, and the one issue everybody on the forum totally flips over when they don't realize there are probably 8 other justices who oppose him on that issue. Many others.

    The point remains here. We have things being said, and we might not know the reason why they are being said, but we have no idea if they are actually going to be implemented. In 6 months, I'm pretty sure neither Assange nor Snowden will be in US custody..

    Yes, it is disappointing to hear these statements even being uttered, although it may be manufactured by the msm.. but if they are real I just don't see these actions being carried forward or going anywhere without Trump being on board, and I haven't seen any evidence he would be on board with this.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  9. #97
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    LOL! Parroting the CNN narrative, I see. They still think Trump is a Russian operative too.
    Linking the comment of r3volution 3.0 to CNN does not make it false. How would you explain Trump's flip in regard to Wikileaks? The comment reflects logic, your comment does not.

  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by pao View Post
    Linking the comment of r3volution 3.0 to CNN does not make it false. How would you explain Trump's flip in regard to Wikileaks? The comment reflects logic, your comment does not.
    All other MSM is running off the same CNN narrative. There is no direct link, that I am aware of that Trump said anything of the sort.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    There's no reason to be confused - like many other things, Trump supported Wikileaks when it was politically convenient to him.

    Sounds like most politicians. Or you when you try to present yourself in certain ways on this forum.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  13. #101
    I imagine some action on Snowden is not far behind...

  14. #102
    I have to say Good Emperor's luster really came down since the whole Syria business. Still don't regret voting for him. Who knows maybe regret it in the future.

  15. #103

    Angry

    Why is he going after assange? I thought he was going to go after Hillary and put her in jail? One helps the American people understand the evils of their government, the other helps commit the evil! It's like it's backwards or something, the exact opposite of what he said in his campaign. What a pussy deep state Cuck this man turned out to be, almost as pathetic as the guys throwing their wives at the cuck so they can be cucked by the cuck and get off on being completely wrong on everything while everything they hold dear gets $#@!ed.

    I miss when they pretended to support Liberty and the Paul's.

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Philmanoman View Post
    And trump or the people he's hired have neve had an agenda or created a false narrative...because they're perfect in every way...like danno thinks of himself.
    Trump used to call in to talk shows to talk about Trump, claiming to be some other person. He does know about Fake News.
    “…let us teach them that all who draw breath are of equal worth, and that those who seek to press heel upon the throat of liberty, will fall to the cry of FREEDOM!!!” – Spartacus, War of the Damned

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  18. #105
    Assange exposes crimes. Rather then go after the criminals, or stop the crimes, Washington vows to go after the whistle-blower exposing the crimes.

    Assange is a foreign citizen in a another nation taking actions outside the USA. Washington has no more jurisdiction over Assange as Saudi Arabia has to prosecute, beat and imprison Melania for driving a vehicle, shopping without a male escort or wearing too revealing clothes while in NYC.

    The unbelievable level of dictatorial hubris espouse by Washington exceeds the limits of ludicrousness.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  19. #106
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    Why is he going after assange? I thought he was going to go after Hillary and put her in jail?
    dannno will be along shortly to assure you that Hillary's conviction is still very much on-track.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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  22. #109
    Funny how the "alpha" male gets shown up by a women with a real set of balls, not Trumps who either does not have his, or maybe they never dropped.

  23. #110
    WTF!!! I thought she was anti immigration....
    A sense of danger gives birth to fear. And fear is the time-honored cross for the crucifixion of liberty.

  24. #111
    Le Pen is awesome. Thought not libertarian.

  25. #112
    lol dannno is literally obsessed with defending trump



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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    All other MSM is running off the same CNN narrative. There is no direct link, that I am aware of that Trump said anything of the sort.
    Trump during the campaign called Edward Snowden a traitor and said he should be executed. Why is that fact lost on you?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trump during the campaign called Edward Snowden a traitor and said he should be executed. Why is that fact lost on you?
    Those were just like words, man. Not even words. More like just a series of letters sounded out. Why do you defend fake news and the Deep State? Hillary would have been worse anyway.

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trump during the campaign called Edward Snowden a traitor and said he should be executed. Why is that fact lost on you?
    That was only because he was trying to save Snowden by making Putin hand him over and giving him a secret trial, once convicted and sentenced, President Donald would hopefully pardon him.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I imagine some action on Snowden is not far behind...
    I agree.

    "murikans would cheer the swatting of a foreign embassy in the name of law and order.

    A sovereign embassy sounds an awfully lot like a sovereign citizen.

    I assume the brits are just as dumbed down.


    DUH!

    Just notice you were talking about Snowden.

    I think that for whatever reason, Assange's stay at the embassy is coming to a close.
    Last edited by sparebulb; 04-21-2017 at 05:51 PM.

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trump during the campaign called Edward Snowden a traitor and said he should be executed. Why is that fact lost on you?
    Trump is wrong--plain and simple. I didn't need anyone to tell me that either. When I heard him say that, I did not agree then and I certainly do not agree if he still feels that way.

    I am not a stooge who thinks Trump is the end all, be all. He isn't--he is just a man, and certainly not infallible. However, if Hillary were in for 100 hundred days, we would be a helluva lot worse off.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  32. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    However, if Hillary were in for 100 hundred days, we would be a helluva lot worse off.
    I keep hearing that. But I still don't know how. Without going off on a completely ridiculous guessing game, can anyone tell me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

  33. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I'm not moving any goalposts, I've always said that it is important to judge on actions the administration takes, and especially not the words of the mainstream media.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  34. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I keep hearing that. But I still don't know how. Without going off on a completely ridiculous guessing game, can anyone tell me...

    Do you think Hillary would have passed an executive order that in order to pass a regulation, 2 regulations must be repealed? Do you think she would be taking positive steps to shrink federal agencies? Do you NOT think we would be in a neocon boondoggle war with Assad by now? Do you think a constitutional Supreme Court Justice would have been nominated?

    Do you think alternative media would still have a platform?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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