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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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A Zero Hedge comment
A war not neccesarily.
This from a guy who had no problem with the air strikes in Syria and no problem with the assassination of Qasem Soleimani via drone strike.
But if we had coordinated air strikes against cartel leaders, OMG another war.
What is a bigger threat to national security some people on the other side of the world who have a different religion than most of us? Or death dealers who happen to be our next door neighbors? And those death dealers have completely destabilized a country contributing to an immigration crisis. But if your boy Trump wanted to take out the cartels you would be all for it.
We don't have troops in Mexico to protect and our embassy is not being attacked.
I will grant you that war in Mexico is more of a national security concern than overseas but it should be a last resort far behind building the wall that you derided.
You seem to not want to protect America but to look for excuses for wars.
We should do everything we can to control our border and only go to war in Mexico if the cartels continue to harm our people after we have done everything else.
I'm aware that Trump floated the idea but he didn't do it yet because he was correctly trying everything else first.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I want you to dissect every one of my sentences in this thread and point out where I say I want a war. I'm asking questions or putting out scenarios.
You got me on the wall idea. Building a wall is the most basic boomer arguement I can think of off the top of my head. What is the point of building a wall? Once they are here nothing happens to them. In your dream world we have a wall then what? Armed guards every 50 meters with shoot to kill orders? A swarm of people would rush the wall and climb over and if any guard shot them. Front page news across the world. The people rushing the fence would use children as human shields.
Is a wall really enough for you? Do you actually want a DMZ on the border? Yet you are most likely one of those people who rant about a police state.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
You again present your option of a war as the only viable option and act as if deportations and patrols don't exist.
How many children will die in your military operation against the cartels? don't pretend they won't use human shields either.
You are the one siding with the Neocons who want a police state and endless wars.
You also advocate bringing in more foreign barbarians to increase the crime rate and the need for a police state to control them and Americans.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
@Bryan since it seems that the mods have let the insults get out of control and rarely do anything when the posts are reported I suggest you do something or declare open season so all sides get to engage in them with no punishment.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
How many people have you accused of voting for Clinton and/or Biden? Taking your shoes off won't help. You don't have anywhere near enough fingers and toes.
The things you said to Glen Bradley alone outweigh everything PAF and I have said to you combined by at least a factor of four.
Please stop, my sides are aching.
I never insulted Glen, he chose to take something I said about the source of a claim and apply it to himself.
You and your gang can't control yourselves even when the mods finally wake up and issue direct orders to you to stop.
Any one of you alone has me beat by miles and not just with insults to me.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
LOL
You making things up in your head doesn't change reality.
And learn to make your own talking points, recycling the left's stale lies about a "war on women" is just lazy.
I'm on very good terms with most of the women here and those who left did so for other reasons, there was no "war".
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Calling people "foreign barbarians" how evangelical christian of you.
Legal and illegal immigrants actually commit less crimes than native born individuals.
https://reason.com/2021/05/13/immigr...orn-americans/
Is Reason Magazine communist propaganda?
Let's bring more garbage into our country, but legally
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My pronouns are he/him/his
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Swordy doesn't get it and never will.
Selling a cigarette on the street for a quarter is illegal.
Providing "personal" services to another consenting individual is illegal.
Having a beertoking after a hard week of work is illegal.
Crossing the street diagonally when nobody else is around is illegal.
Taking a leak in a dark alley because there are no restrooms for the next 5 miles is illegal.
Making a U-turn when the coast is clear, so that you don't waste more gas driving another 15-20 miles -each way-, is illegal.
Hiding your gun under your shirt without paid permission so that you don't alarm others is illegal.
Simply walking across non-private land without papers please and tax-paid holding cells is illegal.
Swordy doesn't follow the money. If he/she did, he/she would quickly see that the USSA has looted more money and killed more humans throughout the world than all individual humans combined.
And I'll bet Swordy didn't know that William Bradford was very, very wealthy along with other colonists who were silver/gold rich, yet raped and stole from Indians, blacks and anybody else they could profit by. Because like I said, he/she would have to follow the money.
Poor and Middle Class people try to make ends meet. It doesn't matter what country of origin or what religion they are. And as wealth and power increases, when they feel that a threshold has been met, "absolute power corrupts absolutely". But that is no reason for me or you to sacrifice our freedoms in exchange for their security.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Not all reports are acted upon. Sometimes they might not be seen for a while.
That being said, everyone should stop with personal insults, stick to debating issues, and try not to derail the thread or go off the thread topic. A lot of posts in this thread are off-topic and/or personal sniping.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
Eyepatch McCain is well known to refer to Dan Crenshaw, who is not a member here, but has been in the news recently calling for war on Mexican drug cartels.
Your example was a direct response to someone inferring that he was a “white supremacist”. Thus it was a response to an insult.
The point is still the same, everyone needs to stay on topic and avoid the personal insults.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
================
Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
Once upon a time, many, many members here seemed to consider CATO and anything funded by the Koch Brothers very far from anything liberty-loving. Reason magazine seems to be getting a substantial chunk of money from the Koch Brothers.
"Funding and partners
As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, Reason Foundation is supported by donations and sale of its publications. According to 2012 disclosures, its largest donors were the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation ($1,522,212) and the Sarah Scaife Foundation ($2,016,000)."
Not making a judgement here; just trying to add to the discussion.
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Yes, and adding, "...is that you?" is clear name calling.
Don't see it. Also don't see a response to the other example I quoted. Or is this what you're referring to?
Admittedly I lost track of the conversation enough to be unsure who "they" was. But I still don't see it.
Is it true that somebody is waging a negrep war against PAF?
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