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Occam's Banana
Sadly, even Rand Paul temporarily went along with Tronald Dump's betrayal of the 2nd amendment by voicing some support for red flag laws.
https://news.yahoo.com/sen-rand-paul...051730853.html
Paul, a strong gun-rights advocate, signaled his willingness to support something along the lines of "red flag" laws that allow guns to be removed from those who may be a danger to themselves and others.
"I'm not opposed to sort of an emergency order for 48 hours and then you get a hearing in a court where you get the full due-process protections," he said in the interview. "It's the one thing that could fix a lot of stuff. I think most of these homicidal attackers ... are sending off signals to their family and community."
On Tuesday, Paul warned that "some of these 'red flag' laws set off a red flag because they're streaming through a lot of your information."
"So let's say we take the VA roll and we say anybody who's taking an antidepressant should have their gun rights taken, and you can see that would be horrific, you know, if we just trolled through all the VA rolls and did that," he said. "It has to be individualized and you have to have your day in court before we take rights away," he said.
I've been trying to find a "post Trump foot in mouth" statement from Rand where he categorically admits he was wrong on that. Still looking....
Meanwhile, the founder of the Oathkeepers condemned Trump's red flag law stance.
https://www.timesrecordnews.com/stor...on/7931150002/
Oath Keepers founder and leader Stewart Rhodes does not see a perfect president when he looks back at former President Donald Trump's time in office.
Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes speaks during a Wichita Falls meeting Thursday, June 24, 2021.
Rhodes and his group, often called a far-right militia, have been known for their support of Trump, but Rhodes sees ample flaws in the former president.
"He didn't understand the Constitution enough when it came to that," Rhodes said during an exclusive interview in Wichita Falls ahead of a speaking engagement in late June.
Rhodes said he did not agree with Trump's backing of red flag legislation or his statement about taking guns away first and then worrying about due process later.
Red flag laws allow courts to remove firearms from people deemed a danger to themselves or others.
In February 2018, Trump made a statement that surprised many.
"I like taking guns away early," he said in the wake of a mass shooting in Parkland, Florida. "Take the guns first, go through due process second."
Rhodes said, "That's not how our constitutional system works."
On the flipside, Ron Paul took a principled stance against red flag laws.
https://libertyconservativenews.com/...red-flag-laws/
This iteration of “red flag” laws has gained traction among the political class. They’re not just supported by seasoned leftists like Diane Feinstein or establishment Republicans like Lindsey Graham, but also by supposed “constitutional conservatives” like Senator Ted Cruz. BLP reported on Cruz’s recent flirtation with red flag gun laws.
Red flag laws have already led to dangerous confrontations between police officers and citizens who assumed that the law enforcement at the door were people trying to break into their house. This was most apparent in Maryland when police shot and killed 61-year-old Gary Willis when trying to serve him a red flag gun confiscation order.
You know, come to think of it, I was wrong to tell @Anti Federalist that Rand needs to beat Trump in 2024. Somehow we need to find the equivalent of Ron Paul to beat Trump in 2024. Thomas Massie maybe.
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