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    *sigh* The George Floyd protests BECAME about "toppling the government." They continued even after the conviction of Derek Chauvin, who was in fact a murderer by any objective review of the evidence, but they STOPPED as soon as Biden was elected. There have been more blacks killed by police in 2021 then there were at any time in our nation's history including any year Trump was in office. Where were the protests? It's like this started in 2014 when Obama was in office, went away when the memo went out that it was just embarrassing Obama, who clearly had no plans to DO anything about the issue, and was kept in reserve while Trump actually DID something about criminal justice reform, and brought out again in 2020 in the middle of a pandemic and an election year. You're not going to convince me that between 2014 and 2020 there wasn't ONE incident of police brutality worthy of mass protest. And when the protests started initially EVERYONE was on board. Sometime after the police station was burned down half of America started having second thoughts. Here is the truth. In both protests there were people who were peacefully protesting over legitimate concerns. And there were people who were NOT peaceful that deserved to be arrested. And sadly NEITHER side will admit this! Both sides say "That was 100% the infiltrators!" Yeah....I don't believe that. In every group there are actual knuckleheads. And the Oathkeepers legal defense hinges on the argument that Trump was going to turn them into his personal presidential militia. Now before someone says "Hell yeah"....that's kind of proof of the "insurrection" argument. On the flip side there were innocent people like Dr. Simone Gold who simply believed the election was rigged and wanted her voice heard. Poor Ashli Babbitt got herself caught up in the moment. That situation WAS dangerous whether she was armed and/or dangerous or not. I could easily see a situation where somehow Trump got elected, Antifa stormed the building, and a black Ashli Babbitt got killed. Tucker Carlson and the rest of Fox would be all "Well...that was a dangerous situation, she crawled threw a smashed window of a police barricade, it's unfortunate but the President and Congress had to be protected. There were pipe bombs found that day. She had a backpack. Case closed." And CNN and MSNBC would has all been "This is terrible! She was murdered in cold blood for peaceful protesting! All she had was a backpack!" And anyone that can't see that is biased as hell. I saw Gutfield on Fox claim that Jacob Blake "deserved" to be shot after he had dropped the knife, was walking away from the police and trying to get in his car with his kids. Not it was unfortunate, but he "deserved" it. People on both sides of the political divide make excuses for the wrong their side does and focuses almost exclusively on the wrong the other side does. People talk about civil war and "peaceful separation." Well then the country should be divided into THREE parts, not just two. The left, the right, and those of us that want nothing to do with any of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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  11. #519
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    YOU WILL NOT STOP THIS UNTIL YOU ARE PREPARED TO START HURTING PEOPLE AND BREAKING THINGS.

    THAT IS ALL OUT OF CONTROL MURDEROUS REGIMES UNDERSTAND.

    NOTHING AND NO ONE BUT OURSELVES WILL SAVE US.

    PERIOD.

    AM I MAKING MYSELF CLEAR, DO YOU READ ME?
    $#@!. Can't even get a single member here for an armed march on D.C. Two things that are spelled out in the Constitution. The God given right to assemble and the God given right to bear arms. Without interference.

    America is just a country of pussies. $#@! a million man march. Give me 300 brothers. And we will document the whole damn thing.

  12. #520
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    $#@!. Can't even get a single member here for an armed march on D.C. Two things that are spelled out in the Constitution. The God given right to assemble and the God given right to bear arms. Without interference.
    They want that attention. They don't deserve it, and we don't need to give it to them.

    'A politician is just like a spoiled kid. If he feels his stick of candy is not the longest why he will let out a yap that will drown out the neighborhood.'--Will Rogers
    We need to ignore them. We need to annul them. If we can't nuke Washington, D.C. the only other option is to secede and negate the pack of bastards.

    Begging them is clearly not indicated. It's just what brats want. If you can't spank their spoiled asses, strip them of all power over you and ignore them.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-18-2022 at 09:00 PM.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    America is just a country of pussies. $#@! a million man march. Give me 300 brothers. And we will document the whole damn thing.
    A lot can be done with 300 men. If they are set to an effective purpose.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    They want that attention. They don't deserve it, and we don't need to give it to them.



    We need to ignore them. We need to annul them. If we can't nuke Washington, D.C. the only other option is to secede and negate the pack of bastards.

    Begging them is clearly not indicated. It's just what brats want. If you can't spank their spoiled asses, strip them of all power over you and ignore them.
    How the $#@! ya gonna strip them of power? Seriously, I'd like to hear your idea. You cannot get away from them by sticking your head up your ass.

    If ya could I'd do it. But, ya can't. No matter where ya live or what you do they will interject themselves further into your life than they already have.

    So why not a symbolic stand? $#@!, they had 300 at Thermopoly. Give me 29 brothers. 1/10th that number.

    30. The Right to assemble. The Right to Bear Arms.

    Can I get 29 more?

  16. #523
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    How the $#@! ya gonna strip them of power? Seriously, I'd like to hear your idea. You cannot get away from them by sticking your head up your ass.

    If ya could I'd do it. But, ya can't. No matter where ya live or what you do they will interject themselves further into your life than they already have.

    So why not a symbolic stand? $#@!, they had 300 at Thermopoly. Give me 29 brothers. 1/10th that number.

    30. The Right to assemble. The Right to Bear Arms.

    Can I get 29 more?
    If all you're going to go do with that armed protest is a "symbolic stand", to hold signs and wave flags and $#@!,

    then my plan of posting memes on message boards will have more success.

    Guns were meant to be used. Not $#@!ing waved around in protest
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

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    Even 3 men with proper funding and competence could change this country.

    (Hey FBI, do you mind funding a project for me? It will help your career!)
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

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  18. #525
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If all you're going to go do with that armed protest is a "symbolic stand", to hold signs and wave flags and $#@!,

    then my plan of posting memes on message boards will have more success.

    Guns were meant to be used. Not $#@!ing waved around in protest
    I think 30 men could inspire a hundred, then a thousand, then hundreds of thousands, then millions.

    To be in D.C.. Fully armed and as an assembly is fully illegal in contradiction to the Constitution.

    Who knows where it leads? Can only be seen if done.

    Who knows? My PSA has come back high. If I have cancer I'll not fight it and instead make that march on my own. If that's the case I hope others will join. They were stopped at Bunkerville. So it's time to take it to their castle.

    It's time. Past time. The government no longer fears the people. And so it introduces socialist mechanisms that will result in Marxism.

    There's a lot of young people out there that need to be fought for.

  19. #526
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I think 30 men could inspire a hundred, then a thousand, then hundreds of thousands, then millions.
    Those 30 would be instantly and reflexively disavowed, called feds, and dismissed.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Those 30 would be instantly and reflexively disavowed, called feds, and dismissed.
    This is unfortunately an accurate statement.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

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  21. #528
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    How the $#@! ya gonna strip them of power? Seriously, I'd like to hear your idea.
    Secede. Stop sending federal taxes. Stop using Fed Monopoly money. The suggestion was in the other thread and I know you read it. Go to the state capitals and demand secession.

    Every time we petition they double down. Secede. If enough states do it, that city becomes nothing but a thousand politicians and several thousand welfare queens--a pit of leeches with no blood to suck.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-19-2022 at 07:01 AM.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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  23. #529
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Two things that are spelled out in the Constitution. The God given right to assemble and the God given right to bear arms. Without interference.
    You'd better read the Constitution again. You left out a very important word: "the right of the people peaceably to assemble..."
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  24. #530
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    You'd better read the Constitution again. You left out a very important word: "the right of the people peaceably to assemble..."
    Are you assuming that, just because they are armed that therefore they are not still peaceable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Are you assuming that, just because they are armed that therefore they are not still peaceable?
    Feds have asserted for decades that mere possession constitutes "using and carrying" in order to facilitate a crime.

    The firearm doesn't even have to be in the same room as the alleged crime, it's mere presence in the vicinity is enough.

  26. #532
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Are you assuming that, just because they are armed that therefore they are not still peaceable?
    Not at all. But what can be accomplished by 300 guys just marching around with weaponry, other than to attempt to portray themselves as bad-assed folks not to be messed with? They'd more likely be viewed an a bunch of my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours yahoos.

    phill4paul contradicts himself. On the one hand, he says the God given right to assemble and the God given right to bear arms without interference are spelled out in the Constitution. He later says, "To be in D.C.. Fully armed and as an assembly is fully illegal in contradiction to the Constitution." Don't know why he brought up the Constitution at all.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
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  27. #533
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Feds have asserted for decades that mere possession constitutes "using and carrying" in order to facilitate a crime.

    The firearm doesn't even have to be in the same room as the alleged crime, it's mere presence in the vicinity is enough.
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

  28. #534
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Those 30 would be instantly and reflexively disavowed, called feds, and dismissed.
    By people just like you.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  29. #535
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Not at all. But what can be accomplished by 300 guys just marching around with weaponry, other than to attempt to portray themselves as bad-assed folks not to be messed with? They'd more likely be viewed an a bunch of my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours yahoos.
    300? Very little. I would assume you'd be instantly arrested, lose your 2 amendment rights and get thrown in prison for twice as long as some gangbanger who shot a whole family of Griswolds while committing a carjacking.

    3000? Eh, maybe some folks would take notice, talk about you enough to avoid prison and arrest possibly.

    300,000? Now the powers that be have an issue. They cannot allow this continue, but at the same time t forcibly arrest and contain that many people would certainly touch off at least some skirmishing.

    3,000,000? The system would be forced to stand down.

    I'm sure you won't agree, but I am firmly convinced that the ONLY reason the fedgov has not gone over the top, bat$#@! authoritarian, YET is because of the fact that roughly one third of the adult population is armed to the $#@!ing teeth, with hundreds of millions of guns and billions of rounds of ammunition.

    I'm sure they are also aware, as am I, that not one in 100,000 of those people would ever find the stones to stand and use them as needed and appropriate.

    99 percent sure of that.

    But then there's that one percent chance...
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  30. #536
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    But what can be accomplished by 300 guys just marching around with weaponry, other than to attempt to portray themselves as bad-assed folks not to be messed with?
    I'm not in with the idea of "Marching on DC", because I think secession is the more sane and sensible path forward for everyone. But what exactly is wrong with "attempting to portray themselves as...folks not to be messed with"?

    Isn't that the proper relationship between the people and the state?



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  32. #537
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    300? Very little. I would assume you'd be instantly arrested, lose your 2 amendment rights and get thrown in prison for twice as long as some gangbanger who shot a whole family of Griswolds while committing a carjacking.

    3000? Eh, maybe some folks would take notice, talk about you enough to avoid prison and arrest possibly.

    300,000? Now the powers that be have an issue. They cannot allow this continue, but at the same time t forcibly arrest and contain that many people would certainly touch off at least some skirmishing.

    3,000,000? The system would be forced to stand down.

    I'm sure you won't agree, but I am firmly convinced that the ONLY reason the fedgov has not gone over the top, bat$#@! authoritarian, YET is because of the fact that roughly one third of the adult population is armed to the $#@!ing teeth, with hundreds of millions of guns and billions of rounds of ammunition.

    I'm sure they are also aware, as am I, that not one in 100,000 of those people would ever find the stones to stand and use them as needed and appropriate.

    99 percent sure of that.

    But then there's that one percent chance...
    The gun-grabbers have not been able to solve the Ruby Ridge problem. Storm-troopers entering private property of a veteran and murdering his family in order to "seize guns" over alleged technical infractions doesn't play well in the press; even the Marxist propaganda Mainstream Media can't spin that one hard enough to make the jackbooted Federal thugs into heroes. While a dragnet gun-grab would be mostly successful on the logistical level (most people will just surrender without resistance), the problem would be the holdouts, of which there would be many. Maybe a million nationwide? Certainly no less than 100,000. And every single one of those holdouts would become a ticking Ruby-Ridge-timebomb, just waiting to blow up in Washington's face. Not to mention that all the people who just had thousands or tens-of-thousands of dollars of firearms and ammo seized by the Feds (many may simply not be equipped to make effective resistance, such as the disabled, etc.) would be inflamed to the point of mania, in support of those holding out. Finally, there are quite a few pockets of local non-cooperation throughout the US that simply would not comply with a gun-grab at the local level. I come from a deep red county in a (now) deep blue state. The local sheriff (over several generations, not just the current sheriff) has consistently and repeatedly affirmed that the sheriff's department will in no way, shape or form cooperate with a State or Federal gun-grab and would enforce all county laws to the hilt, in respect to State or Federal officials within county territory (trespassing laws are quite the rat's nest if you don't have an individualized search warrant based on particular suspicion.) I can inform you that that's not a charade, there have been some close calls throughout the years and the sheriff has backed up their statement. And there are a lot of sheriffs around the country like that. For all their bluster and bravado, the Bug-Eating Globalists still haven't figured out how to take Americans' guns...
    Last edited by ClaytonB; 12-19-2022 at 11:23 AM.
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  33. #538
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    The gun-grabbers have not been able to solve the Ruby Ridge problem. Storm-troopers entering private property of a veteran and murdering his family in order to "seize guns" over alleged technical infractions doesn't play well in the press; even the Marxist propaganda Mainstream Media can't spin that one hard enough to make the jackbooted Federal thugs into heroes.
    I don't know exactly where we stand because their is greater awareness on some things now, and massive dumbed-down bootlicking on others.

    I think Waco/Ruby Ridge would be far more acceptable to Boobus now than in the early '90's. There would be no cringe from any level of law enforcement to it now as there was back then.

    There has been a lot of generational die-off since then and virtually 100 percent turnover in law enforcement since Waco.

    No hesitation when dealing with the public now.

    Boobus, Karen, and Kenn feel safer now.


  34. #539
    January 6th was idiotic - and did not help the cause.

    /thread.
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  35. #540
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    January 6th was idiotic - and did not help the cause.

    /thread.
    It is my opinion, the January 6th event was planned in an attempt to make it look like there was some kind of insurrection.

    They hired actors to climb the walls and riot at one end of the building, while opening the doors on the other end of the building to trap those who would enter.

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