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    New York Wants To Force All Gun Owners To Buy A Million Dollar Liability Policy

    New York state is still busily chipping away at gun rights and now they’ve introduced Obamacare for guns.

    Legislators are hard at work trying to force every gun owner in the state (who isn’t a cop or active military) to purchase and maintain a minimum $1 million liability insurance policy.
    § 2353. FIREARM OWNERS INSURANCE POLICIES. 1. ANY PERSON IN THIS STATE WHO SHALL OWN A FIREARM SHALL, PRIOR TO SUCH OWNERSHIP, OBTAIN AND CONTINUOUSLY MAINTAIN A POLICY OF LIABILITY INSURANCE IN AN AMOUNT NOT LESS THAN ONE MILLION DOLLARS SPECIFICALLY COVERING ANY DAMAGES RESULTING FROM ANY NEGLIGENT OR WILLFUL ACTS INVOLVING THE USE OF SUCH FIREARM WHILE IT IS OWNED BY SUCH PERSON. FAILURE TO MAINTAIN SUCH INSURANCE SHALL RESULT IN THE IMMEDIATE REVOCATION OF SUCH OWNER’S REGISTRATION, LICENSE AND ANY OTHER PRIVILEGE TO OWN SUCH FIREARM.(source)
    Hmmm…privilege? I had no idea it was called constitutional privileges. I’m going to have to go back and fix some articles really quickly where I called them “rights.”
    New York wants to make it impossible to own a gun. Although the bill clearly states it’s been read twice, it’s rife with grammatical errors, almost to the point of illiteracy. (I italicized them for ya.) But I digress. Under the heading “Justification” the bill states:
    Injury and death by gun has increasingly become a problem in U.S. and in New York State. In the wake of recent mass shooting incidents in Aurora, Colorado and Newtown, Connecticut; there has been a nationwide attention on gun control and public safety.
    According to FBI Crime Report, there were 445 firearm murderin New York in 2011 and 517 firearm murder in 2010. However, there is little attention on the economic impact these shootings have on the victims and their families.
    This legislation establishes and requires gun-owners to obtain and maintain liability insurance policy prior to such ownership. By having this insurance, policy in place, innocent victims of gun-related accidents and violence will be compensated for the medical care for their injuries.
    In such cases where the gun was stolen, the original owner is typically not liable unless the weapon was stolen through negligence on the part of the owner.
    This insurance policy will also serve as an incentive for firearm owners to implement safety measures in order to conduct the activity as safely as possible and only when necessary.



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    Poor deluded fools. I want to hope that one day these idiots will wake up and see how foolish they are but I don't see that happening any time soon.
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    Something something poll tax
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    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Poor deluded fools. I want to hope that one day these idiots will wake up and see how foolish they are but I don't see that happening any time soon.
    The Elites dont think of it as foolish to fully disarm the people they flat out plan on stealing from then executing.
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    If it's Obamacare for guns, shouldn't they be having all the people in that state paying for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    If it's Obamacare for guns, shouldn't they be having all the people in that state paying for it?
    Yes the people without guns should be taxed to pay for gun licensing in ny
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    If it's Obamacare for guns, shouldn't they be having all the people in that state paying for it?
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Yes the people without guns should be taxed to pay for gun licensing in ny
    They should all be forced to buy guns too.
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    What about the bullets? Don't they want the bullets?
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    Something about "Excessive Fines or Bail"?
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Something about "Excessive Fines or Bail"?
    And good old fashioned infringement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    If it's Obamacare for guns, shouldn't they be having all the people in that state paying for it?
    If you like your gun-free zone you can keep it.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Is $1M sufficient? Shouldn't it be $10M?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    If it's Obamacare for guns, shouldn't they be having all the people in that state paying for it?
    That just means it is fake insurance and its a tax on the second ammendment. Next we will be taxing speech and privacy and speedy trials

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    That bill was introduced over two years ago and is languishing in committee (or officially dead?).



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    When the federal, State, and localities start becoming liable for all the unintended consequences and outright ruined lives to the millions of Americans from their use of guns in domestic and foreign affairs, then I'll consider buying some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    That just means it is fake insurance and its a tax on the second ammendment. Next we will be taxing speech and privacy and speedy trials
    You need to hold insurance to cover the costs in case anything you say hurts somebody's feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    You need to hold insurance to cover the costs in case anything you say hurts somebody's feelings.
    Free speech insurance?



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