Rand Paul assaulted at Kentucky home (UPDATE: 6 broken ribs)

[helmuth_hubener]

motive

motive is going to be the key.

The attacker was a leftist extremist. His victim was on the extreme right.

The motive was definitely political, I will guarantee. The attacker's lawyers will come up with some other supposedly motivating incidents, parking on the street or playing music too loud or whatever, but it is political. Mark my words.

More fundamentally, it is temperamental. As I've sometimes been mentioning lately, political beliefs are correlated with all kinds of other beliefs, habits, tendencies, and lifestyle choices, and this whole web of thought and action is heavily biologically-driven.

People on the left are generally r-selected, like rabbits.

People on the right are generally K-selected, like wolves.

The two groups are really virtually two different species. There is a very deep-seated biological enmity between the groups. In a very real way: it's us or them. Life or Death. Survival or Extinction.

That's why this Rabid Rabbit attacked Rand.

[dannno]

Can you please tell me what a "DO" is ? Googling these two letters including "public function" etc. etc. doesn't yield much useful.

A "District Ottorney" ?

Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (anesthesiology)

[luctor-et-emergo]

It is not easy to break multiple ribs. Such an injury would have to be caused by use of lethal force. Why are these charges not more severe than "4th degree assault?"

I don't know but then again, I don't believe you particularly help society by locking up individuals for a very long time. It costs money and when they get out, have they become better people or better criminals ? Depends I guess... But on average you could say something about it. It's not restitution either, it's pure revenge. So no, let him pay the medical bills, any lost income and a big sum as restitution.

[luctor-et-emergo]

The attacker was a leftist extremist. His victim was on the extreme extremely right.

Fixed that for ya.

[helmuth_hubener]

I mean in the time he will be unable to be in the Senate.

Rand is K. He'll get to the Senate. Mark my words. If he cares about this country, he will crawl, he will hitchhike, he will rent a blooming blimp! He will do whatever it takes to be on the Senate floor voting to cut taxes, free healthcare, and help save America.

No question. This is his Hero's Moment. Rand on the floor in a wheelchair.... Rand fillibustering from a wheelchair....

He has just become ten times more powerful than he was before.

[helmuth_hubener]

Fixed that for ya.

Same thing, man. But never hurts to emphasize that.

[Brian4Liberty]

The attacker was a leftist extremist. His victim was on the extreme right.

The motive was definitely political, I will guarantee. The attacker's lawyers will come up with some other supposedly motivating incidents, parking on the street or playing music too loud or whatever, but it is political. Mark my words.

More fundamentally, it is temperamental. As I've sometimes been mentioning lately, political beliefs are correlated with all kinds of other beliefs, habits, tendencies, and lifestyle choices, and this whole web of thought and action is heavily biologically-driven.

People on the left are generally r-selected, like rabbits.

People on the right are generally K-selected, like wolves.

The two groups are really virtually two different species. There is a very deep-seated biological enmity between the groups. In a very real way: it's us or them. Life or Death. Survival or Extinction.

That's why this Rabid Rabbit attacked Rand.

I don't know that r/K is entirely applicable within a species, but I'd wager that Moleneux has popularized it's use for his listeners.

A better description would be to use the Myers/Briggs categorization. The left tends to be "F", the right tends to be "T". The term "bleeding heart liberal" once illustrated that distinction.

[helmuth_hubener]

I don't know that r/K is entirely applicable within a species.

Why not?

You should read the book!

[Jamesiv1]

Rand is K. He'll get to the Senate. Mark my words. If he cares about this country, he will crawl, he will hitchhike, he will rent a blooming blimp! He will do whatever it takes to be on the Senate floor voting to cut taxes, free healthcare, and help save America.

No question. This is his Hero's Moment. Rand on the floor in a wheelchair.... Rand fillibustering from a wheelchair....

He has just become ten times more powerful than he was before.

Hopefully, he will be in a wheelchair but never be televised in a wheelchair. We will hear about it only in hushed whispers.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

That's what I'd like to know.

Smells like Class-A felony to me.

I'm pretty sure if I slapped Nancy Pelosi across the face I'd be in jail for a very long time

[donnay]

I think Rand better start carrying a gun for his protection. These people aren't right in the head.

[Dr.3D]

I'm pretty sure if I slapped Nancy Pelosi across the face I'd be in jail for a very long time

Well they would say, she's a woman...

Of course that would be a lie, but that's what happens anymore.

[jct74]

New Details on Rand Paul Assault: Sneak Attack, Possible Political Dispute

by KASIE HUNT and DARTUNORRO CLARK
NOV 6 2017

Disagreement between Rand Paul and his neighbor over the senator's politics and his property line were possible motives in the Sunday attack that left the Kentucky lawmaker with five broken ribs, a source told NBC News on Monday.

Paul was wearing headphones while mowing his lawn in Bowling Green, Kentucky, when he was attacked from behind by Rene Boucher, 59, on Sunday afternoon, two sources said. Paul suffered five rib fractures, including three displaced fractures.

Paul managed to throw Boucher off of him and they exchange words, sources said.

The two men had not spoken several years and a rift between pair possibly stemmed from Boucher's distaste for Paul's politics, as well as those of his father, former Texas Rep. Ron Paul, a source said.

Paul and Boucher also had a previous disagreement about a property line involving a creek behind the lawmaker's house where Paul's sons would sometimes play, the source added.

Boucher's lawyer denied that politics had anything to go with the fight.

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read more:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ispute-n818021

[phill4paul]

"share"?

Well there's yer problem.

Sheesh, prayers for some healing and peace.

Fences make good neighbors.

[jct74]

Suspect in attack on Sen. Rand Paul might face more serious charges, police say

By Wesley Lowery and Ed O'Keefe
November 6

The man accused of attacking Sen. Rand Paul on Friday may soon face more serious criminal charges because the Kentucky Republican is suffering from several rib injuries, law enforcement officials said Monday.

An attorney for the man charged in the attack, Rene Boucher, also said Monday that the dispute had “absolutely nothing to do with either’s politics or political agendas” and was merely “a very regrettable dispute between two neighbors over a matter that most people would regard as trivial.”

But new information about the extent of Paul’s injuries could prompt prosecutors to charge Boucher with a felony, according to Trooper Jeremy Hodges, a spokesman for the Kentucky State Police.

...

“It requires serious physical injury in order for someone to be charged with a felony,” Hodges said. “Our arresting officer will submit his completed case report and then the prosecutors will make a decision about whether to upgrade those charges.”

The state police investigation remains open and active and the formal police report on the incident has not yet been filed with county officials, Hodges said.

County and state prosecutors didn’t immediately return requests for comment.

The FBI is assisting state and local authorities to see whether there were any violations of federal law, but an FBI spokesman declined to comment Monday on a possible motive.

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Boucher was released on Saturday on $7,500 bond and ordered to not have any contact with Paul, his family or offices or to obtain any firearms or weapons of any kind, according to bond paperwork provided by the county.

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read more:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...4a0_story.html

[Crashland]

I don't get it, how is 5 broken ribs not a serious physical injury?

[bunklocoempire]

Fences make good neighbors.

Yep, couldn't agree more.
Individual property rights/fences aren't mean or greedy, they just set clear boundaries for the human condition.

[helmuth_hubener]

I don't know that r/K is entirely applicable within a species.

It certainly acts within other species, as biologists know. Even in bacterium we see it! Life adapts to its environment in order to survive and thrive.

When resources are plentiful, r-selection wins the day. Even the most K-selected species, like humans, wolves, and whales, will shift to more r-selecting behavior in such an environment.

When resources are scarce and the environment is harsh, even the most r-selected species, like rabbits, rodents, squid, grass, and even bacteria, will shift into more competitive K-selected behavior (yes, grass can behave!).

r vs. K is a gradient, and the gradient applies everywhere: both within and between phyla, orders, classes, species, and individuals.

[undergroundrr]

A better description would be to use the Myers/Briggs categorization.

Absolutely. A basic understanding of this finally cleared up for me that a large portion of humanity will never desire liberty no matter how strong an argument you make. It also explains why there are such invariably deep divisions within a supposedly politically homogeneous group such as libertarians, or even specifically Ron Paul supporters.

[Brian4Liberty]

I think Rand better start carrying a gun for his protection. These people aren't right in the head.

I tend to agree. If this guy decided that blindly attacking someone was a good idea, what will he do next?

read more:

Boucher was released on Saturday on $7,500 bond and ordered to not have any contact with Paul, his family or offices or to obtain any firearms or weapons of any kind, according to bond paperwork provided by the county.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...4a0_story.html

That would not be comforting. So we have a potential political assassin, being told to go home and be good while living next door to his target?

Now things are starting to sound a bit suspicious...

[Swordsmyth]

I tend to agree. If this guy decided that blindly attacking someone was a good idea, what will he do next?



That would not be comforting. So we have a potential political assassin, being told to go home and be good while living next door to his target?

Now things are starting to sound a bit suspicious...

Rand and his family need to find someplace else to stay until the freak is behind bars and/or has lost his house in the civil suit, if neither one happens he needs to move permanently.

[jct74]

That would not be comforting. So we have a potential political assassin, being told to go home and be good while living next door to his target?

Now things are starting to sound a bit suspicious...

I can't imagine that anyone who would sneak up on a U.S. Senator and break 5 of his ribs is of very sound mind. Especially a doctor who is plenty smart enough to know the implications of such an act. I think the guy is unhinged and its disturbing to think that he lives the next house over from Rand.

[nobody's_hero]

I don't know but then again, I don't believe you particularly help society by locking up individuals for a very long time. It costs money and when they get out, have they become better people or better criminals ? Depends I guess... But on average you could say something about it. It's not restitution either, it's pure revenge. So no, let him pay the medical bills, any lost income and a big sum as restitution.

There's a deterrence factor as well (which I understand some people don't believe in either). In any case, if you can beat the snot out of a senator and only have to pay $5k and spend a year in jail, they might as well be operating it like a dunking booth. Unless they increase the charges, this whole thing is a joke.

Come one come all. Got a ticket? Fantastic! Step right up. Keep throwing 'til you hit the bulls-eye.

[specsaregood]

There's a deterrence factor as well (which I understand some people don't believe in either). In any case, if you can beat the snot out of a senator and only have to pay $5 and spend a year in jail, they might as well be operating it like a dunking booth. Unless they increase the charges, this whole thing is a joke.

Come one come all. Got a ticket? Fantastic! Step right up. Keep throwing 'til you hit the bulls-eye.

I'm of the mind that Randal probably isn't pushing it harder.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm of the mind that Randal probably isn't pushing it harder.

If that is true then he needs to move and get bodyguards.

[helmuth_hubener]

Absolutely. A basic understanding of this [Myers/Briggs personality categories] finally cleared up for me [stuff I was confused about].

Ahh, but where do the personality differences come from? It is wonderful -- and necessary -- to categorize and organize things, as Aristotle did for the animal and plant life of Earth. But, surely it is a first step, not the consummation of enlightenment. What we inquisitive humans really want to know is "why"? And we want to do that -- and here I can only speak for myself -- so that we can crush and destroy the enemies of liberty and civilization and truth and create a free, good, and virtuous society for our descendants to inhabit.

So, again I ask: but where do the personality differences come from? What would be plausible? Could they be largely caused by factors that are..... biological ? Isn't it true that we as humans are partly.... biological ? Could it be that biology, like White Lives, matters?

Thankfully we know that humans have a spiritual component along with the physical, and thus none of this is purely deterministic. But to plug our ears entirely to the influence of our biology on us? To ignore plain, though perhaps unpleasant, facts, that would be, well, anti-truth, would it not?

a large portion of humanity will never desire liberty no matter how strong an argument you make.

Which would seem to be a strong argument for keeping these freaks away and far away from you. For those for whom arguments matter. Which, I acknowledge, is not everyone.

Those for whom they do not matter are not creatures who you want as neighbors. Those who advocate massive criminalism, i.e. socialists, leftists, etc., are not creatures who you want as neighbors.

They really aren't.

[angelatc]

I don't get it, how is 5 broken ribs not a serious physical injury?

I think that when the arrest was made the cops were not aware of the broken ribs.

[jct74]

some Fox News coverage, Shep thinks it is very strange



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMJljjsmMi0

[phill4paul]

I think that when the arrest was made the cops were not aware of the broken ribs.

More than likely. I imagine assault in the second degree (Class C felony) under KY law will be the charge when all is said and done. No idea if the Feds will pursue anything, but I have a feeling they probably won't.

[undergroundrr]

crush and destroy

Yeah, that's not really my cup of tea. But Boucher seemed to think it was a good option.

keeping these freaks away and far away from you.

Are white people with French ancestry a target group now? I'd better make sure I'm carrying my papers.