View Poll Results: Is Trump awesome or what?

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  • Yes, he's truly awesome

    15 55.56%
  • He's greatness, but not quite awesome

    0 0%
  • He is amazing, but not quite greatness

    0 0%
  • I can feel the MAGA, but I wish I didn't

    3 11.11%
  • Are there any new porn stars on CNN?

    9 33.33%
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  1. #1

    Is Trump awesome or what?

    Feel the burn and vote poll hard!
    Last edited by Jamesiv1; 06-09-2018 at 06:21 AM.
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    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
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    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

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  3. #2
    Coming soon - How did I fix a $#@!hole I inherited from Obama.

  4. #3
    I vote "what".

  5. #4
    Thanks for poll - I voted

    And my vote is winning by a landslide so far
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  6. #5
    I voted
    Do something Danke

  7. #6
    I would also like to vote for CalExit . America cannot be Great with them . They no longer even have enough water to wash their balls . Third world.
    Last edited by oyarde; 06-09-2018 at 11:17 AM.
    Do something Danke

  8. #7
    Ron Paul would have been 100x better than Trump.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Ron Paul would have been 100x better than Trump.
    Now if only Ron Paul was an alpha male. He'd be unstoppable.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge



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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Now if only Ron Paul was an alpha male. He'd be unstoppable.
    After spending 30 years in congress he still didn't know how the game is played.

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    With all of Trump's flaws, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends of being the most effect president of my lifetime. The thing is that he works hard and is competent, I may or may not agree with his policies or goals, but he gets more done in 1 week than politicians do in 1 month and he is effective.

    Trump is certainly no libertarian, but he is useful. He has badly exposed our corrupt media. He has reduced regulation. He has lead the effort to reduce our taxes. He has wiped out the individual mandate of Obamacare. He has North Korea on the verge of end their state of war with South Korea. He has exposed the corrupt deep state.

    I hope to one day see someone like Harry Browne or Ron Paul as our president, but the Libertarian party seems to have given up on libertarians in favor dipshits like Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and William Weld. It seems like creating a better Republican party is best chance for moving things in a more libertarian direction. Hell Trump is now talking about ending the federal ban on marijuana and I won't be surprised if he actually does it.

    I don't think Trump cares much about our Constitution but that doesn't stop him from being a better president than Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc.

    Perfect is the enemy of good.

    Trump is far from perfect, but Trump is good. The results are good and getting better. There will be no Blue Wave® this November. Trump is killing the Democrats and I appreciate that!
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    I think he does so through indirect methods. That is by attacking the support/base that they have. The media, and they are left holding the bag when things turn out ok/better than they wanted. Thus, he indirectly exposes their hypocrisy and real agenda. He loves the negative publicity because its an opportunity to turn it on its head against the left. I really don't think the left understands this.

    My coworker shed light on this (and I think they "got it") when they said. "As much as I hate Trump, things are looking pretty good. Unemployment, markets up, etc.." I think people have a hard time separating his character from policies.

    Pulls out of G7 talks, then turns around 48 hrs later and shakes hands with North Korea and invites Russia into G7. He throes things off balance and responds with a better counter weight.

    Wonder if he strikes a killer trade deal with North Korea for unification and denuclearized Korean Peninsula and slaps Mexico with tariffs to pay for a wall.

    He zigs,...then zags. Reminds me of the movie Red October when the Russian subs pull a "Crazy Ivan".
    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 06-09-2018 at 11:44 AM.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Now if only Ron Paul was an alpha male. He'd be unstoppable.
    If he was an alpha male he would be much more likely to support military aggression and intervention.

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    I think he does so through indirect methods. That is by attacking the support/base that they have. The media, and they are left holding the bag when things turn out ok/better than they wanted. Thus, he indirectly exposes their hypocrisy and real agenda. He loves the negative publicity because its an opportunity to turn it on its head against the left. I really don't think the left understands this.

    My coworker shed light on this (and I think they "got it") when they said. "As much as I hate Trump, things are looking pretty good. Unemployment, markets up, etc.." I think people have a hard time separating his character from policies.
    I think people have had enough of this "but he doesn't work well with people" bull$#@!.

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If he was an alpha male he would be much more likely to support military aggression and intervention.
    That actually would be somebody with a small penis trying to overcompensate.

  17. #15
    Or what.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I think people have had enough of this "but he doesn't work well with people" bull$#@!.
    Right, this is what im getting at. Maybe I have a hard time explaining it. But yeah, you listen to the media but their message doesn't jibe with reality. People can't separate the two. people accept the media message as reality but rarely is it. My coworker understood this but the general public and the left doesn't.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If he was an alpha male he would be much more likely to support military aggression and intervention.
    Nice Non Sequitur you have there.
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  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Right, this is what im getting at. Maybe I have a hard time explaining it. But yeah, you listen to the media but their message doesn't jibe with reality. People can't separate the two. people accept the media message as reality but rarely is it. My coworker understood this but the general public and the left doesn't.
    We have been conditioned being nice is more important than getting $#@! done. The failure of this policy can be seen by looking at Obama years and the rise of SJW ideology. Trump gets $#@! done which makes SJWs very uncomfortable as they are not used to not being in the right.

  22. #19
    Obviously people fail to understand the brilliance and genius that is Trump. Trump knew that if he ran on Ron Paul's platform, he would never have won the election. It would have been stolen from him 100% no questions asked. If you noticed during Trumps entire campaign, he never ran on core principles and beliefs. Trump is smart enough to realize that running on those things don't get you elected. They may have gotten you elected 100 years ago, but they certainly can't get you elected in todays modern world. So all Trump had to do was run for president based on the fact that he is a giant cult of personality. If Ron Paul was alive 100 years ago and ran for president, he would easily win. Especially with the disasters left in place by Woodrow Wilson.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 06-09-2018 at 01:58 PM.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    I just think about the precedence that he set being a nonpolitician. Career politicians are the biggest problem with politics. He didn't get term limits bills passed but his victory as President alone inspired generations of people running who will have a cause. If someone out there wants to run on the Constitution regardless of not being in office before they can win. There are alot of celebrities considering a run for President. They will drown out the career politicians. 100 years from now historians will be calling the 2016 election as the greatest election of all time.

  24. #21
    Also quick note, I'm not even suggesting that Trump is even a defender of liberty and freedom. He's not even close to what Ron Paul is. I just see him as a lesser of two evils. Nothing more, nothing less.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  25. #22
    Better than sliced bread or the Ginsu Knife!

  26. #23
    Some critics like respected neoconservative Charles K had tried to paint current top dog of GOP as a left-wing liberal like other RINOS he ran against but CK missed the big picture.

    The GOP’s Ideological Earthquake and the Aftermath

    By Charles Krauthammer
    May 6, 2016
    ..

    But then comes the paradox. If insufficient resistance to Obama’s liberalism created this sense of betrayal, why in a field of 17 did Republican voters choose the least conservative candidate? A man who until yesterday was himself a liberal. Who donated money to those very same Democrats to whom the GOP establishment is said to have caved, including Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, and Hillary Clinton.

    Trump has expressed sympathy for a single-payer system of socialized medicine, far to the left of Obamacare. Trump lists health care as one of the federal government’s three main responsibilities (after national security); Republicans adamantly oppose federal intervention in health care. He also lists education, which Republicans believe should instead be left to the states.
    As for Planned Parenthood, the very same conservatives who railed against the Republican establishment for failing to defund it now rally around a candidate who sings the praises of its good works (save for the provision of abortion).

    More fundamentally, Trump has no affinity whatsoever for the central thrust of modern conservatism — a return to less and smaller government. If the establishment has insufficiently resisted Obama’s Big Government policies, the beneficiary should logically have been the most consistent, indeed most radical, anti-government conservative of the bunch, Ted Cruz.

    Cruz’s entire career has consisted of promoting tea-party constitutionalism in revolt against party leaders who had joined “the Washington cartel.” Yet when Cruz got to his one-on-one with Trump at the Indiana OK Corral, Republicans chose Trump and his nonconservative, idiosyncratic populism.
    #share#Which makes Indiana a truly historic inflection point. It marks the most radical transformation of the political philosophy of a major political party in our lifetime. The Democrats continue their trajectory of ever-expansive liberalism from the New Deal through the Great Society through Obama and Clinton today. While the GOP, the nation’s conservative party, its ideology refined and crystallized by Ronald Reagan, has just gone populist.
    It’s an ideological earthquake. How radical a reorientation? Said Trump last week: “Folks, I’m a conservative. But at this point, who cares?”
    RELATED: America Needs #NeverTrump Now More than Ever

    Who cares? Wasn’t caring about conservatism the very essence of the talk-radio, tea-party, grass-roots revolt against the so-called establishment? They cheered Cruz when he led the government shutdown in the name of conservative principles. Yet when the race came down to Cruz and Trump, these opinion-shaping conservatives who once doted on Cruz affected a studied Trump-leaning neutrality.

    Trump won. True, the charismatically challenged Cruz was up against a prepackaged celebrity, an already famous showman.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/...p-doesnt-care/


    One of the great things about leader in chief is that he's a big picture guy and doesn't let small things bogg him down. Although it's not confirmed but there were some speculation he may have even supported election of the last awsome POTUS also.



    Don't get any more awsome than that.

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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    With all of Trump's flaws, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends of being the most effect president of my lifetime. The thing is that he works hard and is competent, I may or may not agree with his policies or goals, but he gets more done in 1 week than politicians do in 1 month and he is effective.

    Trump is certainly no libertarian, but he is useful. He has badly exposed our corrupt media. He has reduced regulation. He has lead the effort to reduce our taxes. He has wiped out the individual mandate of Obamacare. He has North Korea on the verge of end their state of war with South Korea. He has exposed the corrupt deep state.
    This. ^^^^ Trump may not have a fully libertarian ideology, but he is certainly acting along those lines. China has never been overtly involved in any kind of peaceful negotiation in the world, and certainly never outside its own border, but their premier is at the table with Japan, South Korea, and the US to convince Kim Jong Un to do away with his nuclear weapons. Paranoid Kim Jong Un has rarely been seen outside his own country. He was convinced to come to this meeting and have the conversation.

    And Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize based on ideas. I'll take action and accomplishment over ideas any day.
    #NashvilleStrong

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    The origins of Trumpism

    BY TERRY LAUTZ


    The rise of Donald J. Trump may seem unprecedented, but we’ve seen this phenomenon before in the person of Robert H.W. Welch Jr., who founded the John Birch Society in 1958.

    Like Trump, Welch was a wealthy businessman. As vice president for sales at his brother’s confectionery company—which manufactured Junior Mints, Sugar Babies, and other popular brands—he understood the power of publicity. Selling candy and marketing politics had a lot in common.

    Like Trump, Welch was viewed as an unhinged rabble-rouser and a dangerous right-wing extremist. The media were fascinated and alarmed by him because he said such outrageous things: President Dwight Eisenhower was a communist who took his marching orders from his brother, Milton. Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren should be impeached because he supported school desegregation. The United States should withdraw from the United Nations, which existed to undermine US sovereignty. Fluoridation of water supplies was a communist plot.

    The Society, which still exists, was named for a missionary-turned-soldier who was shot and killed by Communists in China at the end of World War II. Welch linked the martyrdom of the young John Birch to the subsequent “loss” of China to Mao’s Red Army. The cover-up of Birch’s death was evidence of treason within the Truman administration.

    Welch, like Trump, aimed to transform the system. His core ideas hearkened back to a simpler time, before there was a federal income tax and the welfare policies of the New Deal. He advocated free market capitalism, opposed big-government, and attacked the Washington establishment as misguided and corrupt. He mounted a nationwide law-and-order campaign to “support your local police.”

    Also like Trump, Welch claimed that conspiratorial forces threatened the United States, undermining its strength and sapping its will. Political elites were “insiders” working against America’s interests. They were either conscious agents or dupes being manipulated by subversive powers. If the government said something, the truth must be the opposite. The failed 1961 US invasion of Cuba was a phony assault to consolidate Castro’s alliance with the Soviets. Support for non-communist forces in South Vietnam actually disguised a plan to assist a communist takeover. In today’s world, Welch would have understood globalization as a sinister scheme, and China and Islam as existential threats.

    Welch was maligned by liberals, denounced by conservatives, and dismissed by the mainstream media. Yet tens of thousands of Americans—mostly white, middle-class, suburban and many of them women—became loyal members. They didn’t necessarily agree with everything Robert Welch said, but they believed his basic message was important. They were concerned about the erosion of traditional values; the advance of socialism and communism; the overreach of government; runaway taxes and the national debt. Although Welch was not running for political office, he gave these citizens a voice.

    President Trump’s politics draw on Robert Welch’s playbook. Trump has tapped into alienation and anxiety about rapid social change. He uses conspiracy theories and bogus information to provoke and disrupt. His supporters, who harbor a distrust for government and fear of foreign entanglements, are willing to look beyond his inflammatory rhetoric. And like members of the Birch Society, they believe that their individual rights are threatened, the federal government needs to be curtailed, and international agreements cannot be trusted.

    The John Birch Society, which marked the beginning of our divided politics in modern times, faded from public view by the late 1960s. But with Trump’s electoral success, what was once considered a fringe movement has moved to the center. Mr. Welch, who died in 1985, would have celebrated Trumpism as the victory of Birchism. Whether the revival of his tactics and ideas will “make America great again” remains to be seen.
    https://blog.oup.com/2017/01/trumpis...-robert-welch/
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  31. #27
    A lot of Americans see themselves as disenfranchised. That’s why they voted for Trump.
    #NashvilleStrong

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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    A lot of Americans see themselves as disenfranchised. That’s why they voted for Trump.
    Liberals still need to explain how can you give a preferential treatment to a group or groups of society without discriminating against everybody else. I would like to see the gymnastics involved.

  33. #29
    Is government growing or shrinking? All else is smoke and mirrors.




    (In case you weren’t aware... it’s growing faster than ever. )
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Is government growing or shrinking? All else is smoke and mirrors.




    (In case you weren’t aware... it’s growing faster than ever. )
    So is the number of TDS cases.

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