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    Are American Workers More Optimistic Under Trump?

    http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/201...ic-under-trump

    On 8 November 2016, presidential candidate Donald Trump defied critics and pollsters alike with a surprise election win.

    Many voters hoped a political outsider would boost their job prospects and revive embattled industries – so one year on, how do US workers feel about the future of their jobs and industries?

    BBC Capital commissioned pollsters SmithGeiger to survey 2,060 people across the US, asking whether they felt more or less optimistic about their job prospects a year after the election.

    We found that almost half of adult Americans do not feel any different about the future of their job since last November’s election, with fairly equal portions optimistic and pessimistic about the direction of their employment situation. Given a tumultuous year in which economic conditions in the US flourished at the same time as the Trump administration struggled to win over the American public, the stability of individual perceptions about their jobs and industries may seem surprising.

    Key economic indicators such as employment rates, wage levels and the stock market have performed well during Donald Trump’s first year in office. Unemployment has fallen to a 17-year low rate of 4.1%, average hourly wages have risen by 2.8% in the past year and the S&P 500 is up 21% since the election. It is worth putting these figures into context: all of these indicators continue trends that were already in place under President Barack Obama, where the stock market and wages were rising and unemployment falling.

    But most polls have shown the American public to be pessimistic about the direction of the nation as a whole. For example, a recent Economist/YouGov poll found 60% of Americans think the nation is on the wrong track, compared to only 27% that feel America is headed in the right direction. The same poll at the end of January found 52% of Americans were pessimistic about the nation’s path, compared with 35% optimistic about the trajectory of the country. This rise in pessimism may be linked to President Trump’s disapproval ratings, which have risen by 10 points over the year.

    The juxtaposition of positive employment measures and negative perceptions of the nation’s future complicates expectations for how Americans may evaluate the outlook for their jobs and industries.

    Indeed, the large portion of Americans who don't feel differently about the outlook for their careers since Trump’s victory may reflect the conflicting relationship between generally positive employment and economic performance and broader pessimism about the direction of the nation.
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    For the nearly one in four Americans who feel more optimistic about the future of their jobs, the economy and the performance of their own industry were the most commonly noted reasons behind the optimistic appraisals. A significant portion of those optimistic about the future of their jobs also cited the possibility of tax reform as a key reason for their positive outlook. With both the White House and Congress pushing forward on what potentially could be America’s most comprehensive tax reform since the Reagan years, segments of the workforce are banking on decreased tax burdens to grow many industries.

    For those pessimistic about the future of their jobs and industries, non-economic factors played major roles – in particular, America’s relationship with the world and the mood of the nation. President Trump’s decision to pull the US out of the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) and his desire to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta) has caused considerable consternation among many business interests in the United States and could also drag down optimism for the future of some jobs and industries.

    In all, the very positive macroeconomic performance measures of the American economy during President Trump’s first year in office do not appear to have translated into widespread optimism among Americans about the future of their jobs.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-09-2017 at 11:59 AM.



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    everything is the same for the Americans, the only ones who are not comfortable are the immigrants who live in insecurity

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    Are these the same polls that guaranteed a Hillary victory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccmm View Post
    everything is the same for the Americans, the only ones who are not comfortable are the immigrants who live in insecurity
    What kind of immigrants ?

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    It is worth putting these figures into context: all of these indicators continue trends that were already in place under President Barack Obama, where the stock market and wages were rising and unemployment falling.
    Unless all the market indicators were trending down.

    Then it would all be Trump's fault.

    Like him or not, the fact is that no matter what the man does, it will be reported in a negative light in the government press.

    He could single handedly cure cancer, and then walk on water, and the government media complex would find some way to present it negatively.

    Just like they could not stop fawning over Obama for 8 years.

    The government media complex is nothing more than partisan hackery and background static.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccmm View Post
    everything is the same for the Americans, the only ones who are not comfortable are the immigrants who live in insecurity
    Please explain this more clearly.

    You don't want anyone to misunderstand what you might be saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Unless all the market indicators were trending down.

    Then it would all be Trump's fault.

    Like him or not, the fact is that no matter what the man does, it will be reported in a negative light in the government press.

    He could single handedly cure cancer, and then walk on water, and the government media complex would find some way to present it negatively.

    Just like they could not stop fawning over Obama for 8 years.

    The government media complex is nothing more than partisan hackery and background static.
    I think so .



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think so .
    Presidents get both too much blame and too much credit for the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Presidents get both too much blame and too much credit for the economy.
    So much insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Presidents get both too much blame and too much credit for the economy.

    That is absolutely true, but that is not to say Presidents shouldn't be judged on the economic policies they can control.

    Coming out of a depression, Barack Obama passed Obamacare taxes, let the Bush tax cuts expire, raised payroll taxes, and got dubbed "The Regulator" by the New York Times for the amount of new regulations his department heads enacted. Obama did nothing to lower the corporate income tax rate. Obama failed. The recession ended March of 2009 and the economy grew at 1.5%.

    Trump deserves a great deal of credit for having competent people eliminate regulations and he is pushing lowering the corporate tax rate. He is objectively doing good. Trump has appointed three people by my count to head departments that they advocated eliminating.

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    The whole 1 1/2 percent growth thing is just continual stagnation . Growth that slow is proof that govt regulation stands in the way of real commerce .

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    It's only been a year and there's still lots of time to for things to change, but I don't really feel Trump's policies as much as I did Obama's. I'd even go so far as to say he hasn't really done much. Which, as far as presidents go, is not really a bad thing. If they were to just sleep in their office for 4 years and only ever come out to play golf, we'd be much better off.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 11-27-2017 at 01:34 PM.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    It's only been a year and there's still lots of time to for things to change, but I don't really feel Trump's policies as much as I did Obama's. I'd even go so far as to say he hasn't really done much. Which, as far as presidents go, is not really a bad thing. If they were to just sleep in their office for 4 years and only ever come out to play golf, we'd be much better off.
    Trump won't have time for golf or vacations. He will rarely leave the White House. He will be too busy winning.

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    I was referring to the illegal immigrants who cross from Mexico and who obtained a Status through a TPS, since they are working legally but run the risk of being deported if they finish their Protection Status, as it happened with Haiti and it is speculated that same for other immigrants of other nationalities



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