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    House panel approves marijuana decriminalization, but it faces a long, hard road

    A Republican on the House Judiciary Committee said Republicans would oppose the bill and that "it is even less likely that the Senate would take it up."


    The campaign to decriminalize marijuana overcame a historic congressional hurdle this week, but opponents and some supporters acknowledge the legislation faces serious obstacles.

    The House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday voted 24-10 to approve the Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement Act, or MORE, which would remove marijuana from the federal list of controlled substances, where it's now banned alongside powerful drugs like heroin and LSD.

    The bill would require federal courts to expunge convictions for marijuana offenses and authorize a 5 percent tax on marijuana sales to encourage minority communities to enter the cannabis business.

    It's believed to be the first time a congressional committee has backed legislation to decriminalize marijuana at the federal level. Eleven states and Washington, D.C., have already done so.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-road-n1087781
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    Somebody please explain how taxing a product encourages minorities to sell it.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Somebody please explain how taxing a product encourages minorities to sell it.
    Just a feel good hoping the public will believe that BS while they line their pockets

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Somebody please explain how taxing a product encourages minorities to sell it.
    Grow it and sell it on the black market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Somebody please explain how taxing a product encourages minorities to sell it.
    After reading the bill, it seems like it establishes a slush fund for small business loans.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    After reading the bill, it seems like it establishes a slush fund for small business loans.
    What if I'm not a minority, yet?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    What if I'm not a minority, yet?
    You can still get the money if you were somehow harmed by the war on drugs.


    Which applies to everyone.


    (a) In general.—The Director of the Cannabis Justice Office shall establish and carry out a grant program, known as the ‘Community Reinvestment Grant Program’, to provide eligible entities with funds to administer services for individuals most adversely impacted by the War on Drugs, including—

    (1) job training;
    (2) reentry services;
    (3) legal aid for civil and criminal cases, including expungement of cannabis convictions;
    (4) literacy programs;
    (5) youth recreation or mentoring programs; and
    (6) health education programs.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    You can still get the money if you were somehow harmed by the war on drugs.


    Which applies to everyone.
    Who decides who was most impacted and what criteria do they use?
    "The Patriarch"



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    Peel the tax off it and and pass the rest.. (almost impossible)

    Or redirect that tax at Education to counter the Years of Federal Propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Who decides who was most impacted and what criteria do they use?
    The new, weird-ass thing that the bill creates:

    “SEC. 110. Cannabis justice office.
    “(a) Establishment.—There is established within the Office of Justice Programs a Cannabis Justice Office.
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The new, weird-ass thing that the bill creates:

    “SEC. 110. Cannabis justice office.
    “(a) Establishment.—There is established within the Office of Justice Programs a Cannabis Justice Office.
    Oh well hell, what could go wrong there? There are never enough federal "offices".
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Oh well hell, what could go wrong there? There are never enough federal "offices".
    C'mon, now.

    You know you want business cards that say Cannabis Justice.
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    C'mon, now.

    You know you want business cards that say Cannabis Justice.
    And a Badge,
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    And a Badge,
    The star could be a pot leaf.


    Cannabis Justice is a prime time show waiting to happen.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    All in favor of this. Don't like the weird part, but this is the US in 2019, so anything that isn't fully terrible is good. But, just taking it off the list would be best. The Fed barrier is still a barrier even in states that have recreational legal.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The star could be a pot leaf.
    ... and a sash to pin it on.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    ... and a sash to pin it on.
    LOL
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    I want it decriminalized at the federal level,, by any means necessary at this point..

    And the Tax Bribe has been successful at the State level,, and much as I hate Tax. It is the current "Cost of Doing Business".

    Reclassify it as a Health Supplement,, with many medical uses as well as promoting General Health..

    Which should put it squarely under Health and Welfare.

    I want to see the word "INTOXICATE" removed from the packaging.. as false and misleading
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    I want it decriminalized at the federal level,, by any means necessary at this point..

    And the Tax Bribe has been successful at the State level,, and much as I hate Tax. It is the current "Cost of Doing Business".

    Reclassify it as a Health Supplement,, with many medical uses as well as promoting General Health..

    Which should put it squarely under Health and Welfare.

    I want to see the word "INTOXICATE" removed from the packaging.. as false and misleading

    Wow,, Double post glitch strikes again..

    Cannabis is not a Drug.
    It is a Gift from God..
    Last edited by pcosmar; 12-01-2019 at 01:12 AM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Making marijuana and hemp illegal was a crime against humanity it is probably against the constitution as well. The politicians are just trying to figure out how they are going to get money in their pockets. If they keep taxing it hopefully the cartels will cut their prices.



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