View Poll Results: Worst president in 21st century.

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  • 43rd - George Walker Bush

    15 51.72%
  • 44th - Barack Hussein Obama II

    9 31.03%
  • Yet to be named as of 2017

    5 17.24%
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Thread: The worst US president of 21st century

  1. #1

    The worst US president of 21st century

    Make your pick.
    Last edited by timosman; 01-09-2017 at 10:50 AM.



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    Gotta go with Bush. Started the entire Middle East mess with his wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. That lit the fires we still see burning today. Also took a balanced budget and ran it up to $1 trillion deficits in his term to pay for those (and the recession). He also brought the Patriot Act.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-09-2017 at 03:23 PM.

  4. #3
    war. can't say more war, but it ramped up while our civil liberties took a hit. under both. I voted for the guy that had dick running the show.
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  5. #4
    You guys must be full of it if you think in 80 years to come there will not be worse. It is the americans that vote for them . Those bright , vibrant , freedom loving 'mericans . Same ones that cast millions of votes for LBJ , Gore , Kerry , H Clinton etc
    Do something Danke

  6. #5
    Technically Bill Clinton is an option too LOL!
    This post represents only the opinions of Christian Liberty and not the rest of the forum. Use discretion when reading

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  8. #7
    I'd have to say that Bush is overall worse than Obama significantly. Obama is horrible but I think Bush really set the bar so far low it's hard to go much lower. Bush outright invaded two countries, was in office during the subprime mortgage crisis, passed the bank bailouts, Patriot act, NSA spying, etc.

    Obama continued all these sick policies but I can't say that the successor is worse than the guy who created this horrible situation.
    Obama at least seems to have a couple genuine achievements like with Cuba and the Iran deal wasn't horrible on paper, but he did manage to $#@! it up by passing a new round of sanctions.

    Either way, trump will have a hard time being as bad as Bush, but I definitely expect him to come close to matching Obama.

  9. #8
    Just to set the stage - nobody had high hopes for Bush, Obama on the other hand turned out to be quite a con.



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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Just to set the stage - nobody had high hopes for Bush, Obama on the other hand turned out to be quite a con.
    I was too young to know much about the expectations of Bush's presidency, but I thought he supposedly campaigned on a modest foreign policy. That all went out the window pretty quickly. So judging Bush by his original word, he was obviously a big disappointment too.

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Just to set the stage - nobody had high hopes for Bush, Obama on the other hand turned out to be quite a con.
    If he returns his Peace Prize before Jan 20th, that would help lower his rank among con artists in history.


    Many WH occupants have been without full authority but he has been one of the worst political slaves of neocons.
    Had he been in the WH at the time of 9/11, he would have been Bush on steroids considering his war policies track record years later and after winning Peace prizes.

    Even childrens rights champion firster lady appears more warm towards SWC Bush than DGP:



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  15. #13
    Different puppets, same controllers.
    ...

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Gotta go with Bush. Started the entire Middle East mess with his wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. That lit the fires we still see burning today. Also took a balanced budget and ran it up to $1 trillion deficits in his term to pay for those (and the recession). He also brought the Patriot Act.
    Yeah , but he did not get a Peace Prize , assassinate the Libyan Leader or fine people for not being able to afford ins etc , I do not see how Obummer could be considered any better than George on deficit spending .
    Do something Danke

  17. #15
    yet to be named. Never say "what can be worse than this", learned that lesson on more than one occasion, sadly.

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    You guys must be full of it if you think in 80 years to come there will not be worse. It is the americans that vote for them . Those bright , vibrant , freedom loving 'mericans . Same ones that cast millions of votes for LBJ , Gore , Kerry , H Clinton etc
    point being....?
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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by surf View Post
    point being....?
    He is interpreting the last option as "someone, one of them, in the next 83 years will be worse," rather than "Trump." Which is the more sound interpretation.

    And stating that obviously that option should be winning.

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    He is interpreting the last option as "someone, one of them, in the next 83 years will be worse," rather than "Trump." Which is the more sound interpretation.

    And stating that obviously that option should be winning.
    Correct.
    Do something Danke

  22. #19
    D.J TRUMP = WORST POTUS EVER

    Worst 21st Century POTUS is a subset.

  23. #20
    Jan2017
    Member

    What a cleverly worded poll . . . lol

    Did Hillary win ? It WAS her turn. The glass ceiling has to break sometime.

    She has foreign policy experience - especially in Libya.

    Oh, what ? . . . nvm

    If Trump gets assassinated (even odds in Vegas)- then President Pence moves into the lead effective immediately.

    So, yeah I vote President PenceQuayle when the time comes - later better than sooner.

  24. #21
    PRESIDENT PENCE between say July of 2019 and January of 2021
    could be worse as a POTUS than DJT is now. Paul Ryan, if somehow
    in the Oval Office over that same time span, has high odds of being
    better or worse than PRESIDENT PENCE. Again, a 67 to 33 or 68 to 32
    vote that goes against TRUMP in the next Senate Trial suggests this all.

  25. #22
    If the Democrats neatly do Impeach & Convict DJT, will they then jump
    Mike Pence on similar but lesser charges, thusly elevating PAUL RYAN, who
    is such a total blank slate at this moment as to what he may do in time!?!!

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    If a Democrat Congress emerges, the Blue Wave being FDR level this fall,
    if a Democrat Congress can Impeach & Convict Misters D.Trump, M.Pence
    and P.Ryan, will they hold back at all from setting in motion a sequence of
    events like this, in order to have a well heeled, well tooled "rubber stamp"
    not in the image or druthers of centrist, contrary & churlish Andy Johnson?

  27. #24
    I see how we have a time line sequence getting worse by degrees as
    15 to 20 of the lesser 100 worst case scenarios play out after 2020...



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  29. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    Technically Bill Clinton is an option too LOL!
    You are correct sir !
    Defandant William Jefferson Clinton, 42nd President of these United States and who "served" the USA over millenium celebrations
    and for a crucial portion of the 21st Century.

    btw, stealing typewriter keys at the WH on the day before inauguration - all alleged felonies of the Clinton crime syndicate to be put before a jury by the US Constitution . . . ok Happy Easter - Clintins are toast.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 03-30-2018 at 05:04 PM.

  30. #26
    Why the $#@! not? What else is there to talk about?

  31. #27
    Every president from here on out is going to be worst than the last.

  32. #28
    Woodrow Wilson.

    "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world — no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
    Now watch Zippy try to come along and state that he never said this, and protect the existence of the Central Banks.

    Every president after him that refused to value the people over money printers is equally as bad. Thus, Kennedy was probably the least worst president because he at least acknowledged the Secret Societies.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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