Challenge: Name one part of Trump's consistent ideology where he is pro-liberty

[Anti-Neocon]

Anything... until then I will hold my belief that he is the most anti-liberty candidate in the race, even more so than Hillary Clinton.

People liked him for his stance on Syria even though he advocated war crimes as a solution, and now he is for ground troops just like all the other neocons.

He is absolutely horrible with civil liberties and laughs at "freedom of speech".

He has opposed the 2nd Amendment his entire life until it became convenient to provide lip service to it.

He suggests massive tariffs which will destroy our economy if ever implemented.

His immigration idea is basically amnesty performed through a police state because that looks tough to his stupid followers.

He made it well known that he was an enemy of Ron Paul and would run 3rd party if Ron ever got the nomination just to spoil his chances.

[Danke]

He will make America great again.

[Danke]

“I’m owned by the people! I mean, I’m telling you, I’m no angel, but I’m gonna do right by them."

[Danke]

Megyn Kelly: "You've called women you don't like 'fat pigs,' 'dogs,' 'slobs,' and 'disgusting animals'..."

Trump: “Only Rosie O'Donnell."

[sdsubball23]

He mentioned something about auditing the fed. Though I'm unsure how serious he is about it because I thought in the past he had praised the fed or something about the fed. But hey if he has changed then this particular aspect about him is a good thing.

[Danke]

“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

[Danke]

“No more massive injections. Tiny children are not horses—one vaccine at a time, over time."

[Danke]

“NBC News just called it ‘The Great Freeze’ — coldest weather in years. Is our country still spending money on the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?”

[Danke]

“I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.”

[staerker]

Challenge: Name one part of Trump's consistent ideology where he is pro-liberty

He is pro-liberty on every issue for which a pro-liberty stance will increase his poll numbers-- consistently.

[RJB]

Megyn Kelly: "You've called women you don't like 'fat pigs,' 'dogs,' 'slobs,' and 'disgusting animals'..."

Trump: “Only Rosie O'Donnell."

Does Rosie O'Donnell count as a woman?

[Anti-Neocon]

It looks like nobody has anything yet!

Maybe the reality is settling in that hating government and wanting to replace the government with a bigger, more authoritarian, dictatorial government isn't exactly anything "liberty".

We all should hate government here, but he wants to amplify the problems, not solve them. At least Cruz understands the Bill of Rights when he isn't busy kissing Adelson's feet.

[acptulsa]

He will make America great again.

This.

Only authoritarians talk about how they will make America great again. Libertarians talk about how they will get government out of our way so we can make America great again.

And libertarians will actually succeed. If the morons ever wise up enough to give us a chance., instead of just picking the biggest loser the Republicans can nominate. And then spamming the snot out of us trying to get us to say he's our loser, not just their loser, either to make us look as dumb as them or just because misery loves company.

There's still only one thing wrong with the Republican Party--you can't fix stupid.

[erowe1]

I assume he's for keeping gambling and stripping legal.

[RJB]

I assume he's for keeping gambling and stripping legal.

Congrats for thinking of that. The question had me stumped.

You can gamble and watch strippers, but you can't blow the whistle and release secrets to Americans as you're doing that.

[cajuncocoa]

He will make America great again.

HOPE!

CHANGE!


YES WE CAN!

[Ronin Truth]

He's not, don't vote for him.

[Anti-Neocon]

I assume he's for keeping gambling and stripping legal.

Only near Trump casinos.

[cajuncocoa]

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[dannno]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but he has said that he wants to audit the fed and believes interest rates are set too low and that it is causing bubbles. Apparently he supported the bailouts previously, but maybe he is at least against setting up for the conditions that would necessitate a bailout, and maybe he has changed his mind on the bailouts, not sure.

He also seems to be against getting into a lot of foreign entanglements, but on the other hand he has advocated for getting into some foreign entanglements.

I think one of the major points Trump supporters make is that the most anti-liberty thing we can do is allow illegals in who vote overwhelmingly for socialism and use the socialist system at around twice the rate of non-immigrants, and much more than legal immigrants. Is keeping immigrants out anti-liberty? Yes, but it could be argued that allowing them in allows them to use more force against tax payers than the force required for keeping them out.

But ultimately, it's difficult to see where Trump stands on anything, his stances seem very fluid and I can't quite grasp what his motivations are. He also has a lot of really authoritarian positions on things like torture, civil liberties and many other issues.

There is the fact that it seems the establishment doesn't want him, and the establishment is far more scary than one man.. but honestly I don't know what the real motivations of the establishment are either. Why are they pumping him on TV if they don't like him so much? They own TV... Are they presenting him as an anti-establishment candidate even though he is really establishment? Or is there some agreement that he will let Hillary win the election?

[Origanalist]

The only thing consistent about Trump is the gale force hot air coming out of his pie hole.

[erowe1]

Only near Trump casinos.

Good point. I'm sure he would support regulations of those activities that would hurt any competition he has.

[Petar]

Ripping apart the GOP is great for liberty, in and of itself.

[erowe1]

Ripping apart the GOP is great for liberty, in and of itself.

I haven't seen anyone yet explain how this is going to happen in detail and what the specific results of it will be. People just keep bringing it up as a vague abstraction. What specifically are you talking about?

[Peace&Freedom]

Ripping apart the GOP is great for liberty, in and of itself.

^This.

[Petar]

I haven't seen anyone yet explain how this is going to happen in detail and what the specific results of it will be. People just keep bringing it up as a vague abstraction. What specifically are you talking about?

GOP = bad.

Ruining GOP = good.

[Origanalist]

GOP = bad.

Ruining GOP = good.

Lol, there's that sig line making perfect sense again.

[invisible]

GOP = bad.

Ruining GOP = good.

That's an interesting policy proposal and issues stance for your candidate. Do you have a link or quote for that?

[juleswin]

Replace "consistent ideology" with "political ideas held this election cycle" and I can give you a long list of them.

Auditing the fed
Non interventionist
Neutral in Israeli v Palestinian issues
Closing EPA and department of education etc etc.

[erowe1]

GOP = bad.

Ruining GOP = good.

So the plan is:
1) Vote for Trump.
2) ?
3) GOP is ruined.