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    The Rapid Rise of the American Police State

    The Rapid Rise of the American Police State
    http://www.naturalnews.com/038086_America_Land_of_the_Free_police_state.html
    by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

    (NaturalNews) In … looking for the "big picture" of where America is headed, one pattern has emerged with striking regularity: America has quietly become less free in many ways than nations like Cuba, China and even Venezuela.

    This is especially true in California, where "justice" has become a joke, and the power of the state is unleashed in personal vendettas against innocent citizens who have done absolutely nothing wrong other than refuse to bow down to state-run tyranny.

    In California … a man was recently thrown in jail for four days for photographing police. …

    In another case, California's raw milk man James Stewart has just been released from jail after being forced to sign a plea deal with L.A. County which accused him of the heinous crime of distributing unpasteurized milk. His punishment? Nearly four months in jail, being treated as a terrorist and denied nutrition to the point where he emerged looking like a Nazi war camp prisoner. The state then slapped on two felony charges, five years of probation, and a $300,000+ fine that the man has no way to pay because California raided his business at gunpoint, stole all his cash and then destroyed all the inventory of his business, including over $50,000 in fresh food.

    This was all done … for the "crime" of running a members-only club where people could pick up farm-fresh milk, eggs, cheese, melons and other better-than-organic foods. … the government literally destroys your business, your inventory, your livelihood, your freedom and even your health. … prosecutors who went after James Stewart using infiltration agents, hidden cameras and other Stasi-style tactics borrowed straight out of the Communist Party.

    Consider this for a moment: There is greater food freedom in Russian, Cuba and even China than in California. The idea of arresting people for selling raw milk is unthinkable everywhere else in the world except the United States of America …

    On the human rights front, the United States of America has now plummeted to a level approaching that of North Korea.

    Thanks to President Obama … the White House now creates secret kill lists of American citizens to be assassinated by government agents. This is not denied in Washington. It is, in fact, celebrated as an "important tool" for the completely fabricated "war on terror."

    With his signing of the NDAA in late 2011, Obama also nullified due process and the right to a fair trial. Now, American citizens who are merely "named" by the White House as being possibly involved in anything they call "terrorism" can be kidnapped and taken away to secret government interrogation centers where they can be held indefinitely, without charge, without a trial and without any civil rights or human rights. …

    America is an illiterate society, where the ability to read, write or think critically has all but vanished. It has been replaced by a mass of zombified, brain-dead, obedient boot lickers …

    The TSA, meanwhile, has destroyed U.S. tourism by humiliating and molesting air travelers from all over the world who now refuse to come to America. Not even in North Korea are air travelers sexually molested by overpaid perverts and grown-up morons dressed up in a costume …

    This happens nowhere in the world except America. … in America, returning veterans are cast aside by the failed VA hospital system and even labeled "terrorists" by their own government. This kind of cruel dehumanizing tyranny is uniquely American … Even in Singapore, where they literally beat criminals with canes in full view of the public, they do not sexually molest their own citizens as a requirement for travel. Only in America is this security theater insanity tolerated by the public. …


    it is the lazy cognitive convenience of modern-day liberalism, where the convalescent, illiterate masses strive only to achieve a lingering state of feeling comfortably numb as tyranny multiplies all around them. From such vacuous philosophy comes the slow, steady slide from freedom to enslavement, from peace to war, and from truth to delusion.

    ...

    Call It What It Is: America Is A Police State
    http://www.activistpost.com/2016/03/...ice-state.html

    Over the years ... used the terms “creeping fascism,” “growing police state,” and “descent into totalitarianism” among others to describe the domestic situation in which we find ourselves … But the police state is not coming – it is here. The United States is a police state. …

    The relatively recent concept of “pain compliance,” “rough interrogation,” and “rough rides” coupled with the long held tradition but fast increasing commonality of direct beatings, shootings, murders, and “on-site executions” by police in America have had the final say. Since 2003, police have killed more American citizens than were killed by “insurgents” in Iraq, …

    The United States is now a country where millions of people are locked away in inhuman conditions of confinement, the overwhelming majority of them for crimes in which there was no victim. … behavior previously considered normal and innocuous is now mandated and regulated by a tangled web of government agencies. … any disagreement or defiance of those mandates will result in … an eventual confinement to a cage where the offender is treated like an animal at best. … children are regularly removed from parents by the State simply because of the parents’ economic status, political beliefs, or methods of upbringing. …

    With the recent increase of PC fascism enveloping the nation, even free speech and expression, no matter how ineffectual, is becoming regularly silenced by the long arm of the law.

    Children are being routinely arrested for acting out in elementary school …



    'WE ARE IN A POLICE STATE RIGHT NOW'
    http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/we-are-in...ate-right-now/

    Americans are increasingly living in a police state, and the road looks very bleak …

    The issue is taking on additional urgency … after an online news article chronicled how police stormed into the homes of three supporters of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in the middle of the night, subjecting the citizens to intense harassment simply for backing Walker’s collective bargaining reforms in the state. None of them were ever charged. … episodes like that are becoming less of an exception and more of a rule.

    “The government is watching everything you’re doing,” …

    “If you watch just regular television news, you don’t realize there are 80,000 SWAT team raids (each year). There were only 3,000 of those in the early 1980s. There are 80,000 occurring annually now across the United States. …

    digital intrusion into Americans’ lives is also skyrocketing. “How many Americans know that the NSA is now downloading two billion of your emails a day and American citizens’ text messages? They admit to hacking into 160,000 Facebook pages a day to see what you’re doing,” …

    laws are now giving the government more latitude in investigating citizens and stripping constitutional rights away from the rest of Americans. “How many people know there’s a thing called the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that Obama has signed into being, which allows the military to come to your door if he thinks you’re an extremist, not a terrorist, and have you arrested by the military, taken away and put in a detention camp where you can’t see your lawyer or your family?” … this rapidly emerging threat is a far cry from what America’s Founding Fathers envisioned. …

    “With the Department of Homeland Security handing out over $5 billion in military equipment, grenade launchers, MRAPS (Mine-Resistant Armored Protection Vehicles) … All the things you see in war zones, local police have those now.” … another increasingly common tool for local police is the stingray device, which puts Americans’ digital information at risk as police drive by their homes. “They’re fake cell-phone towers,” he said. “They download everything you’re doing on your cell phone so they can track you. And they do track you.” …

    the training in the academies is very, very military. … police now using the term when they refer to American citizens as civilians. … the increasingly militaristic nature of police work changes how they deal with the public. … that’s a big problem because police seem far more likely to obey and execute all orders rather than object on moral or constitutional grounds. … when the police put on camouflage outfits or those black outfits in SWAT team gear, it actually effects their psychology and they view us much differently than they used to view us …

    in Ventura, California “The police went through the door in the home of a mother and father. The parents had done nothing wrong, by the way. [The police] were in the wrong home. They said, ‘We have a year-old baby sleeping in that room. Please, I want to keep my baby safe.’ One cop actually pushed the door open and threw a flash bang grenade in the room and burned the baby … If your local community is not outraged when a baby gets burned by a flash bang grenade in a SWAT team raid, they should [be]. …
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.



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    Gonna give this old thread a bump. I think of it every time I read this sort of stuff.


    Lew Rockwell Interviews Will Grigg: The US Is a Soft Totalitarian State (well worth the watch)

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...rth-the-watch)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  4. #3
    The heat has been turned up for the Rothschild Zionist NWO implementation.
    Last edited by Ronin Truth; 06-12-2016 at 01:43 PM.

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    And boobus cheers it on. When given examples they shrug and say that's only a few bad ones, or the system isn't perfect but it's the best there is.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    And boobus cheers it on. When given examples they shrug and say that's only a few bad ones, or the system isn't perfect but it's the best there is.
    Safety first comrade!

    And don't forget the children.

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    I believe you get no response from people because they are being systematically turned into zombies chemically.

    Here are a few examples:

    Tylenol Could Be Making You Less Empathetic - Fortune

    http://www.fortune.com/2016/05/11/ty...educe-empathy/ Proxy Highlight

    May 11, 2016 ... One study found that the main, painkilling ingredient in Tylenol causes people to lose their empathy for others.

    Tylenol Ingredient May Dull Your Empathy - Newser

    http://www.newser.com/story/225089/p...w-tylenol-warn... Proxy Highlight

    May 14, 2016 ... If the results of a new study hold up to further research, Tylenol may have to start coming up with a new warning label: "may cause a lack of empathy. ... other medicines—found people taking it showed less empathy toward the ...

    Acetaminophen Linked to Lower Empathy Levels - Live Science

    http://www.livescience.com/54739-ace...-linked-to-les... Proxy Highlight

    May 13, 2016 ... People who take acetaminophen may feel less empathy toward others, a new study suggests.

    Tylenol may decrease empathy, study shows - USA Today

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/n...2016/05/11/tyl... Proxy Highlight

    May 11, 2016 ... This ingredient in pain meds might numb more than your headache.

    Study: Acetaminophen dulls pain -- but also empathy - CNN.com

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/health...taminophen-dul... Proxy Highlight

    May 13, 2016 ... Study: Acetaminophen dulls your pain -- but also your empathy .... Too much of the drug can cause rashes, liver failure and even death. ..... possible one to the list: You'll feel less inclined to empathize with your fellow man.

    Taking Acetaminophen Might Reduce Your Empathy, Study Says

    http://www.newsweek.com/taking-aceta...ight-reduce-em... Proxy Highlight

    May 10, 2016 ... ... main ingredient in Tylenol, made study participants less sensitive to other ... were less able to empathize with physical or social aches of other people, .... me I think its safe to say we really dont know what causes ADHD yet.

    Tylenol Could Affect Your Ability to Empathize - Attn

    http://www.attn.com/stories/8210/how...an-affect-abil... Proxy Highlight

    May 10, 2016 ... ... in Tylenol, acetaminophen, can affect the ability of users' to empathize ... of these hypothetical people as less severe than the control group.

    When you take acetaminophen, you don't feel others' pain as much ...

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/05/1605100... Proxy Highlight

    May 10, 2016 ... "Acetaminophen can reduce empathy as well as serve as a painkiller. ... rated the pain of the people in the scenarios to be less severe than did those ... same noise blasts would cause in another anonymous study participant.

    Taking common pain reliever Tylenol may reduce empathy, study says

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pain-rel...nol-may-reduce... Proxy Highlight

    May 11, 2016 ... In addition to easing physical pain, it may also affect your ability to feel ... who took the acetaminophen rated the people's pain as less severe ...

    Study suggests acetaminophen may reduce your ability to feel other ...

    http://news.nationalpost.com/health/...r-peoples-pain Proxy Highlight

    May 10, 2016 ... Acetaminophen can be found in 500 different non-prescription ... helps reduce pain, but may also decrease a person's ability to feel empathy.
    Last edited by donnay; 06-12-2016 at 09:24 AM.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Trump wants to expand the police state. As do most anti- immigrant supporters. You can't increase immigration security or start to remove any immigrants without it.

    For comparison- the US has 376 policemen for every 100,000 citizens. Other countries:



    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-1...d-police-force
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-12-2016 at 02:38 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump wants to expand the police state. As do most anti- immigrant supporters.
    Yup, they got us boxed into a nice little corner here.

    Both sides, both positions, both major parties all are universal in this regard: more police, more laws.

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    TPTB have done their homework very well, over a very long time span.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump wants to expand the police state. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-1...d-police-force
    Its not just Trump. Bush, Clinton, Hillary, Obama have all gotten us to this point - warrantless surveillance, warrantless phone and email and electronic wiretapping, total surveillance, indefinite detention, torture, NSA, TSA, Patriot Act, 2011 NDAA, fusion centers, drone assassinations, preemptive warfare, naked body radiation scans, fostered regime change/color revolutions, renditions, advocating nuclear first strikes, consolidating ever more power over finances, economy, production, people’s incomes, media, people’s privacy, internet use, telephone conversations, email, peoples’ spending, people’s health, education, warfare, invasions, civil asset forfeiture, authority to detain people indefinitely with nebulous classifications like “detainees” “enemy combatants” enemy noncombatants”, fake trials by military tribunals relying solely on multiple degree hearsay evidence without right to counsel or to review evidence or to confront witnesses or to subpoena, lies to take this nation to war, preemptive warfare, false flag covert operations to start war, social and cultural destructive manipulations, destruction of families, robbing the productive, rewarding laziness and irresponsibility and sloth, impossible debt, inflated currency and on and on, yet none of this is hidden. None of it is secret.

    Hillary has been at the forefront of these evils, along with her accomplice Obama, and all the other primary candidates save for Dr. Rand Paul. Don’t be deceived.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 06-12-2016 at 07:03 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Enough of these conspiracy theory's.

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump wants to expand the police state.
    So does Hillery. and I suspect she is meaner. (nasty)

    Only Bernie,, and nice cops with Nerf guns offered any hope. /s
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    For comparison- the US has 376 policemen for every 100,000 citizens. Other countries:
    It is a useful graph although Zippy's graph does leave out the top 25 nations or protectorates, however that only paints a partial picture. It is not merely the number of police but what they do and how they are used.

    The U.S. incarcerates 25% of the entire world prison population.



    The tally for just 2014? 1,100 people killed by those sworn to protect. That is an average of three people a day. … However, when we look at violent crime in this country, we can see that it is at an all time low. While violence among citizens has dropped, violence against citizens carried out by police has been rising sharply. … As a comparison, the total number of US troops killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, in 2014 was 58. … Fewer soldiers were killed in war than citizens back home in “the land of the free” in 2014, by a large margin.
    China, whose population is 4 and 1/2 times the size of the United States, recorded 12 killings by law enforcement officers in 2014. Let that sink in. Law enforcement in the US killed 92 times more people than a country with nearly 1.4 billion people.
    looking at the prison population of the US. America imprisons almost twenty five percent of all people imprisoned in the world, … The U.S. houses 2.3 million inmates, while China, a country with four times the population of the U.S., is a distant second with 1.6 million prisoners. … Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pol...kQb8z0cwj4X.99

    And to complete Zippy's graph, here are the top 25 countries/protectorates to the left of where the graph starts:
    Country or Dependency Police per 100,000 people
    Pitcairn Islands (United Kingdom) 1,785
    Montserrat (United Kingdom) 1,471
    Belarus 1,442
    Monaco 1,374
    Brunei 1,076
    Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha (United Kingdom) 939
    Saint Kitts and Nevis 899
    Bahamas 848
    Grenada 818
    Nauru 800
    Niue (New Zealand) 800
    Singapore 752
    Macau (China) 737
    Antigua and Barbuda 733
    Bermuda (United Kingdom) 729
    Tuvalu 720
    Dominca 709
    Bulgaria 678
    Montenegro 677
    Northern Cyprus 676
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 633
    Serbia 631
    South Sudan 629
    Cayman Islands (United Kingdom) 625
    Cyprus 610
    Argentina 558
    Saint Lucia 557
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    The Rapid Rise of the American Police State
    http://www.naturalnews.com/038086_America_Land_of_the_Free_police_state.html
    by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

    (NaturalNews) In … looking for the "big picture" of where America is headed, one pattern has emerged with striking regularity: America has quietly become less free in many ways than nations like Cuba, China and even Venezuela.

    This is especially true in California, where "justice" has become a joke, and the power of the state is unleashed in personal vendettas against innocent citizens who have done absolutely nothing wrong other than refuse to bow down to state-run tyranny.

    In California … a man was recently thrown in jail for four days for photographing police. …

    In another case, California's raw milk man James Stewart has just been released from jail after being forced to sign a plea deal with L.A. County which accused him of the heinous crime of distributing unpasteurized milk. His punishment? Nearly four months in jail, being treated as a terrorist and denied nutrition to the point where he emerged looking like a Nazi war camp prisoner. The state then slapped on two felony charges, five years of probation, and a $300,000+ fine that the man has no way to pay because California raided his business at gunpoint, stole all his cash and then destroyed all the inventory of his business, including over $50,000 in fresh food.

    This was all done … for the "crime" of running a members-only club where people could pick up farm-fresh milk, eggs, cheese, melons and other better-than-organic foods. … the government literally destroys your business, your inventory, your livelihood, your freedom and even your health. … prosecutors who went after James Stewart using infiltration agents, hidden cameras and other Stasi-style tactics borrowed straight out of the Communist Party.

    Consider this for a moment: There is greater food freedom in Russian, Cuba and even China than in California. The idea of arresting people for selling raw milk is unthinkable everywhere else in the world except the United States of America …

    On the human rights front, the United States of America has now plummeted to a level approaching that of North Korea.

    Thanks to President Obama … the White House now creates secret kill lists of American citizens to be assassinated by government agents. This is not denied in Washington. It is, in fact, celebrated as an "important tool" for the completely fabricated "war on terror."

    With his signing of the NDAA in late 2011, Obama also nullified due process and the right to a fair trial. Now, American citizens who are merely "named" by the White House as being possibly involved in anything they call "terrorism" can be kidnapped and taken away to secret government interrogation centers where they can be held indefinitely, without charge, without a trial and without any civil rights or human rights. …

    America is an illiterate society, where the ability to read, write or think critically has all but vanished. It has been replaced by a mass of zombified, brain-dead, obedient boot lickers …

    The TSA, meanwhile, has destroyed U.S. tourism by humiliating and molesting air travelers from all over the world who now refuse to come to America. Not even in North Korea are air travelers sexually molested by overpaid perverts and grown-up morons dressed up in a costume …

    This happens nowhere in the world except America. … in America, returning veterans are cast aside by the failed VA hospital system and even labeled "terrorists" by their own government. This kind of cruel dehumanizing tyranny is uniquely American … Even in Singapore, where they literally beat criminals with canes in full view of the public, they do not sexually molest their own citizens as a requirement for travel. Only in America is this security theater insanity tolerated by the public. …


    it is the lazy cognitive convenience of modern-day liberalism, where the convalescent, illiterate masses strive only to achieve a lingering state of feeling comfortably numb as tyranny multiplies all around them. From such vacuous philosophy comes the slow, steady slide from freedom to enslavement, from peace to war, and from truth to delusion.

    ...

    Call It What It Is: America Is A Police State
    http://www.activistpost.com/2016/03/...ice-state.html

    Over the years ... used the terms “creeping fascism,” “growing police state,” and “descent into totalitarianism” among others to describe the domestic situation in which we find ourselves … But the police state is not coming – it is here. The United States is a police state. …

    The relatively recent concept of “pain compliance,” “rough interrogation,” and “rough rides” coupled with the long held tradition but fast increasing commonality of direct beatings, shootings, murders, and “on-site executions” by police in America have had the final say. Since 2003, police have killed more American citizens than were killed by “insurgents” in Iraq, …

    The United States is now a country where millions of people are locked away in inhuman conditions of confinement, the overwhelming majority of them for crimes in which there was no victim. … behavior previously considered normal and innocuous is now mandated and regulated by a tangled web of government agencies. … any disagreement or defiance of those mandates will result in … an eventual confinement to a cage where the offender is treated like an animal at best. … children are regularly removed from parents by the State simply because of the parents’ economic status, political beliefs, or methods of upbringing. …

    With the recent increase of PC fascism enveloping the nation, even free speech and expression, no matter how ineffectual, is becoming regularly silenced by the long arm of the law.

    Children are being routinely arrested for acting out in elementary school …



    'WE ARE IN A POLICE STATE RIGHT NOW'
    http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/we-are-in...ate-right-now/

    Americans are increasingly living in a police state, and the road looks very bleak …

    The issue is taking on additional urgency … after an online news article chronicled how police stormed into the homes of three supporters of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in the middle of the night, subjecting the citizens to intense harassment simply for backing Walker’s collective bargaining reforms in the state. None of them were ever charged. … episodes like that are becoming less of an exception and more of a rule.

    “The government is watching everything you’re doing,” …

    “If you watch just regular television news, you don’t realize there are 80,000 SWAT team raids (each year). There were only 3,000 of those in the early 1980s. There are 80,000 occurring annually now across the United States. …

    digital intrusion into Americans’ lives is also skyrocketing. “How many Americans know that the NSA is now downloading two billion of your emails a day and American citizens’ text messages? They admit to hacking into 160,000 Facebook pages a day to see what you’re doing,” …

    laws are now giving the government more latitude in investigating citizens and stripping constitutional rights away from the rest of Americans. “How many people know there’s a thing called the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that Obama has signed into being, which allows the military to come to your door if he thinks you’re an extremist, not a terrorist, and have you arrested by the military, taken away and put in a detention camp where you can’t see your lawyer or your family?” … this rapidly emerging threat is a far cry from what America’s Founding Fathers envisioned. …

    “With the Department of Homeland Security handing out over $5 billion in military equipment, grenade launchers, MRAPS (Mine-Resistant Armored Protection Vehicles) … All the things you see in war zones, local police have those now.” … another increasingly common tool for local police is the stingray device, which puts Americans’ digital information at risk as police drive by their homes. “They’re fake cell-phone towers,” he said. “They download everything you’re doing on your cell phone so they can track you. And they do track you.” …

    the training in the academies is very, very military. … police now using the term when they refer to American citizens as civilians. … the increasingly militaristic nature of police work changes how they deal with the public. … that’s a big problem because police seem far more likely to obey and execute all orders rather than object on moral or constitutional grounds. … when the police put on camouflage outfits or those black outfits in SWAT team gear, it actually effects their psychology and they view us much differently than they used to view us …

    in Ventura, California “The police went through the door in the home of a mother and father. The parents had done nothing wrong, by the way. [The police] were in the wrong home. They said, ‘We have a year-old baby sleeping in that room. Please, I want to keep my baby safe.’ One cop actually pushed the door open and threw a flash bang grenade in the room and burned the baby … If your local community is not outraged when a baby gets burned by a flash bang grenade in a SWAT team raid, they should [be]. …
    When did the Ventura California incident occur? The one in Georgia is familiar to me but it sounds like the author is referring to another crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cissy View Post
    When did the Ventura California incident occur? The one in Georgia is familiar to me but it sounds like the author is referring to another crime.
    He is.

    It happens again! Toddler targeted by cops' bomb
    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/it-happen...M4kZgpLqAIm.99
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    And boobus cheers it on. When given examples they shrug and say that's only a few bad ones, or the system isn't perfect but it's the best there is.
    "Best there is" is boobus code for:

    "SHUT UP AND LET ME GO BACK TO WATCHING MY MORBID ENTERTAINMENT ON OVERPRICED TV SERVICES AND WORSHIP CELEBRITIES!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    TPTB have done their homework very well, over a very long time span.
    Tragedy and Hope



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